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The Dysphoria is Gone

Started by Valeriedances, July 17, 2010, 08:26:52 AM

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Kristyn

Wow Valerie, that is so amazing to here!  I've always felt that I have been in a bubble totally separated from the rest of the world.  Everybody can see me and I can see everybody but I was completely disconnected from everyone and everything.  I hope I will experience the same as you following my surgery.
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MsFierce

Quote from: Kristyn on July 17, 2010, 08:41:23 AM
Wow Valerie, that is so amazing to here!  I've always felt that I have been in a bubble totally separated from the rest of the world.  Everybody can see me and I can see everybody but I was completely disconnected from everyone and everything.  I hope I will experience the same as you following my surgery.

I totally felt that way too.  I been isolated from everyone before surgery. since waking up from surgery, I feel so at peace with myself and the world. I finally feel like a complete woman now and I'm so looking forward to starting my new life. nice post Valerie.
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rejennyrated

ENJOY - I can tell you for sure that it does NOT come back.  8)

Isn't it just a wonderful feeling too?

Now you'll have to find something else to fret over ;)
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FairyGirl

I agree with you Valerie and that has been my experience as well. I feel whole at long last, and for that reason I'm even more sure that I made the right choice. I have a lot more confidence now and some things that seemed important before are just not so much anymore. I am cured, and that is the most wonderful feeling in the world.
Girls rule, boys drool.
If I keep a green bough in my heart, then the singing bird will come.
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Kristyn

Quote from: FairyGirl on July 17, 2010, 09:20:24 AM
some things that seemed important before are just not so much anymore.

That's interesting.  Like what?  I'm hoping I don't lose my desire and passion for playing music.
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FairyGirl

lol Kristyn nothing like that, but I realize that I did overcompensate for the dysphoria in various ways that are no longer important, like that isolation that Giselle mentioned. I still love to play music, do my artwork, my writing, none of that has changed at all. I'm merely free now to reach my full potential as a complete woman with no psychological barriers in my way.

That, and since being off spiro I don't crave salt so much anymore lol
Girls rule, boys drool.
If I keep a green bough in my heart, then the singing bird will come.
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Kristyn

Quote from: FairyGirl on July 17, 2010, 09:52:14 AM
lol Kristyn nothing like that, but I realize that I did overcompensate for the dysphoria in various ways that are no longer important, like that isolation that Giselle mentioned. I still love to play music, do my artwork, my writing, none of that has changed at all. I'm merely free now to reach my full potential as a complete woman with no psychological barriers in my way.

That, and since being off spiro I don't crave salt so much anymore lol

:embarrassed:  oh.  Thanks  :)
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MsFierce

I Agree with what Chloe said. before surgery i felt like a woman but everytime i looked down, i fell from heaven and realized i had a penis and it didn't feel right. that i always wondered ''do i pass? i would ask everyone that. now i don't care about any of that, im a woman, a complete woman. im so at peace now with myself.
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kaitlynm999

I just stumbled on this thread! Hiya!

I am so happy for you and I can say that I feel the same way...that dysphoric feeling i always had is gone....obliterated.. in fact, i recently looked back on a journal from a year ago and i felt embarrassed by how miserable my words appeared on the page...

it's a sad statement that we have to go through so much just to feel like everybody else


and amen on the salt!!!!  I don't think i will ever eat another pickle again!!
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rejennyrated

Just as an aside to this girls - pre-op I never took Spiro, and of course post-op it isn't needed, but my measured T. level is almost non existent at just 0.7 ng/dl I have frequent terrible salt cravings. (and pickles too!) Could there be any connection here?
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Kristyn

Quote from: Valeriedances on July 22, 2010, 10:33:56 AM
Me too, I love pickles and have terrible cravings for salt. I usually eat them late at night when I need a snack, like the last two nights. I have two large jars in the fridge.

I've always craved salt, but have removed it from my diet--I do have some, but not as much as I used to.  As for pickles, I love `em!  Try them with scrambled eggs!  Mmmmmmmmmmm!
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FairyGirl

for me it was stuffed olives- by the jar. I normally like them and pickles okay, but the spiro really had me putting salt on everything. Luckily that didn't affect my blood pressure and it tended toward the low end anyway. I was wondering if that craving would go away once I was off the spiro, and it has.

Being off the estradiol was the worst- that gave me hot flashes and night sweats. Thankfully those have gone away too now that I'm chemically back to normal lol
Girls rule, boys drool.
If I keep a green bough in my heart, then the singing bird will come.
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LordKAT

And back to posting. It is good to see you coming back around after your surgery. I wish the dysphoria would go, I keep hoping. It settles down for a while and then something sets it off, usually a comment.
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cher_m

Wow... so many baby TS's :)  I just notice all of the "days since grs" signatures. Congratulations to you.

Valerie, thank you for reminding me of that time.  I'm post op 6+ years.  I'd forgotten about that feeling of nothingness where there had always been something (no... I'm not talking about appendages  ::) ).  Days, months even years passed and it was peculiarly absent.  I never quite figured out what "it" was.  My advice is don't take it for granted.  "It" CAN come back. 

It's odd.  The past few weeks, maybe even months now, I've begun to feel that dysphoria again.  I'd hate to see that happen to you.
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Colleen Ireland

Quote from: cher_m on August 09, 2010, 03:13:15 PMI never quite figured out what "it" was.  My advice is don't take it for granted.  "It" CAN come back. 

It's odd.  The past few weeks, maybe even months now, I've begun to feel that dysphoria again.  I'd hate to see that happen to you.

Cher, can you elaborate, please?  I'm pre-everything, and maybe I'm not even a candidate, and I've been in deep denial for almost 30 years but now I'm experiencing the dysphoria again, and I cannot IMAGINE having to just live with it!  But ...post-SRS?  Dysphoria?  Please say it ain't so!

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Kristyn

Quote from: Colleen Ireland on August 09, 2010, 06:22:05 PM
Cher, can you elaborate, please?  I'm pre-everything, and maybe I'm not even a candidate, and I've been in deep denial for almost 30 years but now I'm experiencing the dysphoria again, and I cannot IMAGINE having to just live with it!  But ...post-SRS?  Dysphoria?  Please say it ain't so!

Yes, I'm curious too!  Please tell us more.
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cher_m

Quote from: Colleen Ireland on August 09, 2010, 06:22:05 PM
Cher, can you elaborate, please?  I'm pre-everything, and maybe I'm not even a candidate, and I've been in deep denial for almost 30 years but now I'm experiencing the dysphoria again, and I cannot IMAGINE having to just live with it!  But ...post-SRS?  Dysphoria?  Please say it ain't so!

Mmm.  The short answer is that I experienced it.  If one person experiences it (and is willing to share it), then it's likely that there are others.  It's possible.  If it's possible, one is well advised to consider it.  It remains to be seen how this book ends.  I'm still looking for a solution.  I thanked Valerie for reminding me of that feeling I once had.  The contrast with what I've been feeling is so remarkable, that it's given me something to chew over with my therapist tomorrow.

Bottom line is we all must do our due diligence.  No two of us are exactly alike and we will all handle the stresses in our life differently.  It took a couple big hits to knock me down to where I find myself right now.  Not the least of which was being  completely "excommunicated" by my family.  That's just a fancy word for being disowned.  The significance of that for me was that what I thought I knew love to be was shaken to its core.  Their love meant a lot to me.  Still, it was an equitable loss to what I gained from transitioning.  Still, I persevered with the energy Valerie spoke of.  She's 100% right.  Your energy is like 99.9% of being accepted as female.  It was an essential part of the happiness I experienced. 

Two different occasions the mainstream groups that had replaced my family crumbled.  One had nothing to do with me.  The entire group broke apart because of a breakup by the founders of the group.  The other, a malicious person searched for information on me and discovered my past.  After being a prominent part of both groups for two years, they were each suddenly "taken" from me.  Several other similar hits from close friends interspersed in there and it's hard to not have trust issues.

The last event sapped my energy hard.  I can't bring myself to forge new relationships to have them taken away again.  I don't want to spend the rest of my life waiting for the other shoe to drop.  Without the social interaction, we are islands unto ourselves.  The need we feel to receive the kind of treatment Valerie spoke of is absent, if that's the case.  While my mind and body may be in sync, the real dysphoria is experienced as a result of the mind and body not receiving the social nourishment it craves to respond to.

I could name dozens of other things that you may find more meaningful to you.  But there will be things you encounter that you will find prominent reminders and a mild twinge of dysphoria will return, but easily managed.  The realization that you never experienced being "Daddy's little girl," you resent your participation in your High School prom, feeling your maternal instincts kicking in and the ensuing reality of never giving birth, or as in my last relationship, my soon to be boyfriend was always pointing out little girls in public and saying, "See, you were all so cute when you were that age."  When I finally came out to him, that stopped, even though we continued to date seriously for awhile.  Insignificant and manageable to be sure.  Still, for some, that may bring back the dysphoria.

Maintaining the love and support of your family and friends is half the battle.  If at all possible, hold on to that.  Remember, this is just my story, my experiences.  They have left me feeling old, tired and a bit jaded sometimes.  If I had it to do over again, I would do almost everything exactly the same.  It was the right cure, as Valerie stated, for me.  Still, if and when the dysphoria returns, it's like seeing a demon you thought you once vanquished returning to devour you.  I don't know what's in store for my future and it scares me.  I don't know how much more I can take.

On a positive note, I have no reason to believe it's a foregone conclusion that we will all experience the return of dysphoria.    Mine is simply a warning that it can.  YMMV.  Cherish that energy.  Be ever mindful of its health.  It's my fervent hope that none of you experience the return of dysphoria and you maintain that positive energy for the rest of your long and happy lives.

Cher

PS... sorry for the long post.
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Colleen Ireland

Quote from: cher_m on August 09, 2010, 10:11:38 PMBottom line is we all must do our due diligence.  No two of us are exactly alike and we will all handle the stresses in our life differently.
That's why I'm here...
Quote from: cher_m on August 09, 2010, 10:11:38 PM
PS... sorry for the long post.

Oh, gosh, Cher, I'm really, really sorry I asked - sorry to hear about your struggles, and I will pray for you, you sound like you need it.  And THANK you for the long post - thank you for your candor and honesty.  That is very much what I need right now - I need to make sure my eyes are wide open and I know everything I must consider.  This is such a huge undertaking.  And I am very thankful for people like you who can help me make sure I have the information I need in advance.  Thank you for clarifying.  Your post is a cut-and-keep.

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cher_m

Quote from: Colleen Ireland on August 09, 2010, 10:23:01 PM
That's why I'm here...
Oh, gosh, Cher, I'm really, really sorry I asked - sorry to hear about your struggles, and I will pray for you, you sound like you need it.  And THANK you for the long post - thank you for your candor and honesty.  That is very much what I need right now - I need to make sure my eyes are wide open and I know everything I must consider.  This is such a huge undertaking.  And I am very thankful for people like you who can help me make sure I have the information I need in advance.  Thank you for clarifying.  Your post is a cut-and-keep.
Quote from: Colleen Ireland on August 09, 2010, 10:23:01 PM
That's why I'm here...
Oh, gosh, Cher, I'm really, really sorry I asked - sorry to hear about your struggles, and I will pray for you, you sound like you need it.  And THANK you for the long post - thank you for your candor and honesty.  That is very much what I need right now - I need to make sure my eyes are wide open and I know everything I must consider.  This is such a huge undertaking.  And I am very thankful for people like you who can help me make sure I have the information I need in advance.  Thank you for clarifying.  Your post is a cut-and-keep.
No need to apologize! :)  No harm in asking.  Besides, it helps me to talk to others about it too.  If you're able to glean something useful from what I wrote, I'm pleased I could help.  Good luck
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