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Voice... how??

Started by Samantha_Marie, July 26, 2010, 02:00:37 PM

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Samantha_Marie

Ok, so I've always lightly played around trying to make my voice lighter but only for very very brief periods. Now I really want to start working on it and am at a complete loss, if I do what I think a female voice sounds like, it's always either a mickey mouse impression or else some horrible voice you see done in movies by a guy trying to act like a girl.

Does hormones help soften the voice as well? I really don't want to do any unnecessary surgeries, I know i have to do the whole hairline one, but hoping I can get away with nothing else but hair removal and the srs itself. Who knows tho. But for now, any help with the voice will be huge. I played around with make-up and besides the dark line where my facial hair is I didn't find myself repulsive, so thinking I might be lucky and can go full-time within 6-12 months but not with my voice...

Thanks,

Samantha

sonopoly

Try youtube to get tips.  Below is one that I thought was very good, more conceptual than technical but a good start. She has the same name as you too!  Check out her other videos, she's fantastic!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeoVVxl7hOo&videos=QYfe1V986U4#
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Debra

Also if all else fails, there's always voice therapy...it's usually $100/hr though.

I, myself, watched youtube videos and listened to CDs to no avail. I just didn't get it. I went and saw a voice therapist and within 3 -4 months (sessions once a week), I was getting ma'amed on the phone even.

Sandy Hirsch (http://www.givevoice.com ) is the voice therapist I saw and she is awesome.

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Asfsd4214

Well, my voice is probably what I'd consider my strongest asset, because it sounds unquestionably female (nobody has ever asked me if I was male or female when they only had voice to go by since about feburary or march, 100% assume female).

But it wasn't always like that...

I have a feeling that hormones probably do (despite common belief to the contrary) help to a small degree if nothing else in aiding your potential to train yourself.

What I did was I started by, in really small sessions spaced weeks apart, talking in as feminine a sounding voice as I felt I could. Wasn't very good, but around the 7th or 8th it started getting a tiny bit better, though still pretty male. After that I started keeping nightly audio diaries, and talking more in between where I was practicing and my normal speaking voice every other time.

A little while after that it got good enough on its own that it started to sound reasonably passable, around then I started using it 24/7, and not long after that it was pretty close to perfect. All totaled up it probably look me 6 months total, with the majority of effort being focused in the first 4.

My recommendation is to just talk how you feel is the best that you can do, and practice that when you can (talking to yourself is helpful  ;D) and when you feel comfortable, switch to trying to use it 24/7.

Just don't do it so much that you strain it.

The other thing I would say is that people put way too much emphasis on inflection and intonation and stuff related to the actual content of your speech. I don't think the content of what you say has really any relevance at all to what gender people perceive you as being. It has relevance to the masculinity or femininity of your personality, but I don't think it matters as far as gender reading goes.

Pitch matters a lot, resonance slightly more, both males and females can talk at the same pitch, in the middle between the high end of the male range and the low end of the female range, and resonance still causes you to perceive the males as the males and the females as the females. In my opinion, if you have a female resonance to your voice, and a pitch that's even remotely in the female range, your voice will probably be perceived as female unquestionably.



Just a quick note about hormones. I don't think you should 'count' on hormones to do almost anything. But I started hormones and it was around the same time that I made the most rapid and effective progress on my voice, it might have had no influence at all, it might have had a subtle but quite effective influence, personally from my experience I'm more inclined to think the latter, but I can't possibly say that for sure.

I can say that hormones, in some cases (especially the younger you are), do have a tendency to do the things most say it outright can't do.
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Samantha_Marie

Thank you so much! I was really scared because I try to sound like I feel I should and I listen to the tapes and I'm just disgusted and want to cry. Knowing it will get better helps a LOT! I am probably going to schedule appointments with a voice therapist as well at random intervals to help me along but the video link and your information is SUCH a relief and helps me with the wanting to go full time in 6 months.. I'd prefer less but I think 6 months to 1 year is a good timeline to get everything in order and be at least presentable to society as a woman who is fixing herself rather then a man wearing womens clothing.

Diane Elizabeth

      A voice therapist runs about $ 150 around here.  How can one afford that I don't know.  Put the voice coach on hold right now I guess.  And hope for a miracle that I will "get" the pitch and resonance thing soon.. 
Having you blanket in the wash is like finding your psychiatrist is gone for the weekend!         Linus "Peanuts"
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Britney♥Bieber

I'd say just practice and it'll come to you. I've been singing for years, so I have a really wide range but my bestie thinks my voice is fine, so I'm not sure if I'll change it. Just have to see how it fits with my appearance later in my transition. I have a somewhat lower voice but not too low. I've been mistake for a female on the phone by phone salespeople and even mistaken for my mother when I answered the phone when her friends or work would call. :D