Dear LynnER!
Thank you for your reply. I wish that it was the first one I got. (Am I "in your face" again? Oh no! Sorry! But it is me!)
You wrote:
QuoteWhen I first read this last night, I chose not to respond immediately because I knew I would come off as offensive and as attacking you, rather than attacking your idea. I'm going to give it a shot again and will do my best.
Thank you.
QuoteWhy are you following the unaccepted mostly debunked theories of homosexual and non homosexual transsexuals. Using that theory right there does not allow for the existence of FTM's which is where/why drain comes in asking how he can exist according to the theories your putting forth.
OK. I don't think it is a debunked theory. Let's be honest: ->-bleeped-<- exists. Some can lie to a psychologist or a counsellor, but it's an existing phenomenon.
And it exists only amongst "non-homosexual" MTFs.
Why did I start my post with this? Because I'm a "non-homosexual" MTF, so I must build from my personal experiences! I wanted to inform you about my personal point of view!
What I tried to do was use deduction in my personal case. And it worked for me.
This was the sole reason why I started with the distinction of "non-homosexual" MTF.
I tried to find the core element of my own transsexuality.
So my real direction was that it isn't important that you are "homosexual" or "non-homosexual", MTF or FTM, these are not important questions (but I had to show what I experience as a TS).
What common ground remains THAT IS transsexuality in itself! OK, maybe it wasn't very clear from the beginning...Sorry for that!
My argument was/is that transsexuality is
an inner, hardwired self image of the brain, which is of the opposing sex. Yes, I use "sex", because I think transsexuals have the brain part responsible for self image of the opposing SEX.
It is a physiological, neurobiological phenomenon, not a mental or psychological problem in my opinion.
In my opinion transsexuality develops because of hormonal effects (which can be triggered by genetic mutations) in the uterus.
It can explain all cases of transsexuality in my opinion. It is not fetish, sex or gender oriented.
It is universal amongst all transsexuals in my opinion.
QuoteAlso the 1 in 30,000 is a very old number based off of those who had GRS while following what ever standards of care were in place at the time (aka, a minority of the people transitioning)
I think there are documented cases when crossdressers, ->-bleeped-<-cs, stigmatophiliacs, other fetishists think they are TS, but after SRS they cannot live a happy life.
I also think that in a few cases "happiness" means simply the end of the intense sexual paraphilia in "alleged" MTFs. I can imagine that for some people it is better to become a "woman" than an eunuch, it makes more sense. And SRS stops the paraphilia obviously.
I don't want to hurt those people and I think they should be treated as they want to be treated, but being TS is not about strong fetishes in my opinion.
Of course being TS can cause "fetishes", but the core "self image" diagnosis must stand.
So I don't really know that without defining transsexuality how can we really tell the numbers.
The number of SRS is the only practical guideline in my opinion. I can see of course that in theory it must be lower than the real number of transsexuals, some of whom can never get SRS.
QuoteThe homosexual and non homosexual transsexual theories are disturbing to say the least. Completely insulting if you want the truth. Explain then how it is, many MtF's start off straight pre transition and stay straight post transition. Example I was married to a woman pre transition but I like men post transition.
You are right of course. Sexual orientation is not important after SRS. But it is important
before SRS.Why? Because in "non-homosexual" transsexuals
there is a chance that they are not transsexuals at all, only have a paraphilia (like crossdressing).
Source:
http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/Warning.html#Sandra"Homosexual" (pre-op) transsexuals have no ->-bleeped-<- and no sexual arousal from crossdressing.
In their case it is a much more clearer picture.
QuoteIn this case I take it personal, I am IS and TS... as others have pointed out chromosomes matter far less than previously believed... Actually if I remember correctly scientists have discovered the proverbial switch that makes the difference between males and females and have even successfully hit the switch while experimenting. I have female internal organs, they may or may not work, I'll never know because there not hooked up to anything. On the "male" side I was deemed completely sterile before transitioning. This was devastating. Try prodding an IS person in public and claim they are not a full male or female because they cannot breed and I guarantee you will not be happy with the result.
I have to say that I wasn't making fun of this. I merely stated the facts.
I would rather be a cisgender male or a cisgender female (I would opt for that) but I'm a TS.
It sucks, face it. I think "political correctness" starts to get ridiculous in some cases.
We are not children, we can handle this situation. It hurts, but life cannot be about building "dream worlds".
Political correctness is a kind of mental drug which clouds our judgement and we can lost touch with reality quickly, living in a lie, in a luxury, selfish, childish, weak bubble.
Was I "in your face" again? Again, sorry, but this is my opinion.
QuoteHey... Just because some TS's enjoy things that are generalized parts of the other gender doesn't make them different. There are many women and men out there who enjoy the same sort of things. This is just an assumption. My personality makes me just like my mother 
Cisgender women see it otherwise. They can see the numbers, the average. They know that we are chimeras, not average cisgender women. Of course after SRS it is possible to fit in, but in most cases post-op transsexuals are physiologically and mentally a little bit different and it sometimes can be "read" by other women (even if they behave otherwise and accept the post-op trans woman). I showed videos of post-op TS women to cisgender women and they said that they can see the difference in the majority of the cases. It is the main reason I don't want to transition by the way.
QuoteWell, aside from jeers while in school, noone ever thought I was gay. BUT everyone knew something was up. Very few people were surprised when I came out.
I'm wishy washy on these points. Kind of sort of agree yet not completely. They leave room for improvement and do not leave room for any who do not fit into them.
Ok, I see. By the way, these are not my ideas: I collected them from cisgender women.
These are not politically correct views, these are "in your face" honest opinions.
Quote1.) (non-homosexual) transsexuals are the product of a special in-utero development.
Ummm, what about your so called homosexual transsexuals, and what about FTM's and what about those who fit into the category of none of the above?
My post really was about "my kind" of TS, I didn't really want to talk about those who are not like me. I made it clear in my opinion that I'm not talking about other types of TSs.
But I think in other TS cases there must be the same explanation.
Did you hear about this?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/7877774/Female-mice-can-be-turned-lesbian-by-deleting-gene.html"Researchers found that disabling the FucM gene – which influences the levels of oestrogen to which the brain is exposed – caused the mice to behave as if they were male as they grew up."
I think I do not need to say more. Sexual orientation and sexual identity are different, but the "special" development of the brain is the same in both cases.
Transsexuality must be a genetically caused hormonal development in the uterus in my opinion.
QuoteWhat if we have a wholly female brain, many studies show this.
There are a few scientific proofs that TSs have a PARTLY female brain.
Like this:
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/85/5/2034But it is clear, that we don't have a full female brain (size etc.)..
Quote5.) transsexualism is mainly an innate feminine body image, as a neurobiological self-expectation: there can be no transsexuality without the feeling of feminine body image. Other feminine traits may vary amongst individual transsexuals.
Okay... what about FTM's
The same for them. Only they have the "innate masculine body image".
What is the problem?
QuoteAnd finally...
6.) strong fetishists (crossdressers, ->-bleeped-<-cs etc.) or feminine males, without an innate and not erection-oriented feminine body image are not transsexuals.
I don't believe in Autogyniphiles as a form of transsexuality anyways. I will keep my opinion of them to myself in this forum... Over all this is a true statement and I wish doctors and the media would get the point. I'll add drag queens to the list just for my own sake
I do not however understand how what you mean by not erection oriented are not transsexuals... You mean if I didn't get it up at the thought of transition I'm not TS?
Well, what I meant was that a "non-homosexual" TS can get an erection from the mental image of herself as a woman, because her sexual orientation before SRS is "non-homosexual". The erection is natural in that case. You see a pretty woman and you get an erection.
But there is a difference between that and those, who feel themselves as women
only when they are sexually aroused in a male way.
A TS must feel feminine WITHOUT an erection even before SRS, even before HRT in my opinion.
It is about an inner self image and not about clothes fetishes, latex or any kind of other fetish.
Fetishes are objects. Fetishists like objects, they like objectify themselves, sometimes imagining themselves as women.
Transsexualism is an inner body image and behavioral and emotional pressure which is NOT about sexual orientation or excitement (it can be part of transsexuality, but not the core of it).
You must feel yourself transsexual without sexual excitement, on a daily bases in my opinion.