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Started by tiffany leung, July 28, 2010, 08:49:43 AM

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tiffany leung

Hi all,

I am attending law school in another jurisdiction this summer, and I know no one over there.

In this city that I am currently living, I have plenty of friends who understand my situation - they treat me as a girl and apply the girls' social rules with me. But since I am moving, I am not sure that I may win that treatment again.

I have just started hormones and surely will have a long way to go until SRS, so I will have to be in boymode for quite a long time.

Should I just introduce myself to the new class by saying 'I have transgender tendencies, and I identify myself as a girl, so just treat me as a girl please.' How might my new classmates possibly react to that? Will that be a social suicide?

Thanks!

Tiffy
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Sarah B

Hi Tiffany Leung

Absolutely not, it is none of their business.  They should accept you for who you are.  The least number of people that know, the better of you will be.

The question you should ask yourself is, can you present as female now without any problems?  If so then present as female while you go to law school.  It is  possible to do this, but depends on your situation.

The other question in regards to attending law school is, have you changed your name legally?  It would be more appropriate to have your degree with your preferred name on it.  Than having to change it later on.

The reaction of others depends on them and will range from total acceptance to total rejection.  Once you tell them, you basically do not have control over that information any more.  However, your education is extremely paramount.  So concentrate on that instead and slowly change while you are studying.  If this is your case, you can always change your name and present as a female at another school later on.

Whatever happens it is up to you how you decide to change. 

Take care and all the best for the future.

Kind regards
Sarah B
Be who you want to be.
Sarah's Story
Feb 1989 Living my life as Sarah.
Feb 1989 Legally changed my name.
Mar 1989 Started hormones.
May 1990 Three surgery letters.
Feb 1991 Surgery.
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tiffany leung

Hi Sarah,

Thank you for your reply!

I would say I may present as female now with little problems (with the exception that I am too tall to be a girl (6 feet in height)). However the real problem is, I have not finally determined yet if I would really undergo SRS surgery. Of course I dearly dream to live a girl's life, but there are still many other things that I cherish - my family, my friends, my social connections and my future career expectation - I just fear that by turning myself into a girl I will let my family and my friends down, and turn a part of them against me.

Yet however, the desire of becoming a real girl has never faded since my early childhood, as sometimes I only want to sacrifice all other things for the surgery. So deep inside my heart I have been continuously struggling... but anyway, as my therapist has been suggesting me, I will try hormones for several more months, and see if that will make me to have a clearer view of my future.

As I am moving to a new environment soon, I am feeling rather anxious. I fear that I would not be accepted in the new world, as it is hard for me to understand and follow men's social game rules, while the girls might simply reject me by thinking that I am a man. That explains why I have been seeking for a change, a strategy or something like that... in order not to be alienated.

By the way, as for the name change, I feel lucky that I have an uni-sex name, and I suppose that I do not need to have that changed.

Best regards,

Tiffy
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Sarah B

Hi Tiffany Leung

It was nice to hear from you with a little more detail, without giving anything away.  Well, you have your answer go full time at University and tell no one.   You can at the same time concentrate on the remaining problems.  You will have time, between, studying, lectures and maybe a little socializing!  You can have it all, why not?  I'm saying this because in your reply you say you have always dreamed of being a girl and the desire has never faded.

I too was in a similar situation,  I had always wished or wanted to be a girl, it was not until I was 30 that I finally realized I was a female and I had always had been.  From what you have said, I would say you are a female and you have always been a female, the reason why I say this is because you said, "as sometimes I only want to sacrifice all other things for the surgery". You are also right that you should take things steadily to make sure that is what you want.  One of the reasons and there are many others was, my uncle who knew once said, you need to go and live as a female.  Which I did, so I left my family and friends nearly 22 years ago and inside of 3 months I was working and living as a female and I have never ever regretted that decision.

There are so many similarities between me and you its not funny.  I care for my family and friends very much.  However, if you are not happy or not healthy then you will not be able to care for your friends and family.  You must take care of yourself and do what is right for you and you alone, not what your friends and family want you to be.  In that sense you would be living their dreams and not yours.

Yes, you could lose all your friends and family, that is one of the consequences of what happens if we change.  Yes, I left my friends and family and eventually they found out what I did and long story short, I have been extremely lucky that my family accepts me and a few friends from my past that accept me totally for who I am. 

You are lucky that you already have a unisex name,  like me I also have a unisex name.  You do not mention about any middle names, so you might want to consider that.

As for your height, you are not alone around here with that problem, which is not really a problem.  There are plenty of members around Susan's who can help you out in that area.  The problem is being confident when you go out, so be yourself and hold your head high,  yes you will be anxious, afraid, shy and worried what is going to happen when you go to a new environment and meet new friends.  But this is normal because, just recently I moved to a different location and I had to adjust to my new location and get along with my new colleagues.

As I said, I was working and living full time inside of 3 months and I did not have time to worry about what people thought.  I was so busy working and partying that I did not have time to think about what they thought of me and all they saw was someone who was very happy with herself.  They never knew about me because I never told them about my past and two years after changing I had my surgery.

So I will say what my uncle once said to me.  Go and live your life as female and see if that is what you truly want.

May all your dreams come true, my thoughts and best wishes are with you no matter what your decision is.  You go girl!!

Kindest regards
Sarah B
Be who you want to be.
Sarah's Story
Feb 1989 Living my life as Sarah.
Feb 1989 Legally changed my name.
Mar 1989 Started hormones.
May 1990 Three surgery letters.
Feb 1991 Surgery.
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lilacwoman

on Monday a 6foot tall woman passed me as I was slowly walking along passing the time and no-one took a bit of notice of her apart from just the casual glances we all give each other.

I took a college course just 3 months after I started transition and everyone was fine with me.
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Sarah B

Hi Tiffany Leung

Here are some posts about tall girls.

Kind regards
Sarah B
Be who you want to be.
Sarah's Story
Feb 1989 Living my life as Sarah.
Feb 1989 Legally changed my name.
Mar 1989 Started hormones.
May 1990 Three surgery letters.
Feb 1991 Surgery.
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bethanypahl

well it really isnt anyones bussiness  Unless you are going to go full time there then maybe to admin when that time comes   but that is my feeling, so take it for what you paid for it ;D ;D ;D
but I found that most people dont care but they are uneducated in this matter so they need to be educated and that goes a long way in underestanding
have a great day :)
Bethany Pahl
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Cindy

Hi
Six foot girls are quite common now a days. I do suggest you try and talk to a gender therapist if you are unsure of were you gender is going. If your present name is OK and you are happy with it as your female name then that removes the major stumbling block, in my opinion. If I understand your situation correctly I would go as female full time no explanation as none is needed.

Cindy
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Cruelladeville

Indeed Cindy...

Dutch girls when you wander around Amsterdam and the guys too are mega tall...I was in Budapest during May/June and July for 3 weeks or so in total....statuesque gals there too were not unusual either...

(Protein rich milk based diets...eh?)

As they are in Southern Germany as well, my step-mamma's tennis pro playmate Uti.... was way taller than me (I'm 5'8") so guessing this uber-chix was 6'4" +!!

Amazing...amazonians or what?

I gather some (Japanese) business men will pay quality yen out to get smothered and wrestled by such types - defo if she's into heels....*s->-bleeped-<-s*....

(No offence meant to any fetishist types out there of course)

Whatever lights yer candle...
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Steph

Quote from: tiffany leung on July 28, 2010, 11:34:29 AM
Hi Sarah,

Thank you for your reply!

<snip>.  However the real problem is, I have not finally determined yet if I would really undergo SRS surgery. Of course I dearly dream to live a girl's life, but there are still many other things that I cherish - my family, my friends, my social connections and my future career expectation - I just fear that by turning myself into a girl I will let my family and my friends down, and turn a part of them against me.

<snip>

Best regards,

Tiffy

For me this is a huge hurdle that you must overcome before going full time.  There is obviously doubt and you must be absolutely sure that you are TS before deciding on what will be such a life changing process.  Finding out later that you have made a mistake is not the way to go.

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Dana Lane

I think you should do what makes you feel comfortable. If telling everyone you are a transgender woman right off the bat helps then go for it. This is the route I take because I like to end all the speculation and uneasy feelings right off the bat before  they even start. Not everyone would do this but everyone is different, has different goals on life. Not everyone wants to be stealth. I don't.

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Izumi

Quote from: tiffany leung on July 28, 2010, 08:49:43 AM
Hi all,

I am attending law school in another jurisdiction this summer, and I know no one over there.

In this city that I am currently living, I have plenty of friends who understand my situation - they treat me as a girl and apply the girls' social rules with me. But since I am moving, I am not sure that I may win that treatment again.

I have just started hormones and surely will have a long way to go until SRS, so I will have to be in boymode for quite a long time.

Should I just introduce myself to the new class by saying 'I have transgender tendencies, and I identify myself as a girl, so just treat me as a girl please.' How might my new classmates possibly react to that? Will that be a social suicide?

Thanks!

Tiffy

Why even bother telling people you dont care about.  Just live your life, when you go full time tell people you know, time it if you can in between semesters and people you dont know you dont have to tell.  What is it there business anyway...
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Lacey Lynne

Quote from: Sarah B on July 28, 2010, 03:15:10 PM
Hi Tiffany Leung

I care for my family and friends very much.  However, if you are not happy or not healthy then you will not be able to care for your friends and family.  You must take care of yourself and do what is right for you and you alone, not what your friends and family want you to be.  In that sense you would be living their dreams and not yours.

Yes, you could lose all your friends and family, that is one of the consequences of what happens if we change.  Yes, I left my friends and family and eventually they found out what I did and long story short, I have been extremely lucky that my family accepts me and a few friends from my past that accept me totally for who I am. 

The problem is being confident when you go out, so be yourself and hold your head high,  yes you will be anxious, afraid, shy and worried what is going to happen when you go to a new environment and meet new friends.  But this is normal because, just recently I moved to a different location and I had to adjust to my new location and get along with my new colleagues.

So I will say what my uncle once said to me.  Go and live your life as female and see if that is what you truly want.

May all your dreams come true, my thoughts and best wishes are with you no matter what your decision is.  You go girl!!

Kindest regards
Sarah B


Hi, Tiffany Leung:

Sarah B. said it all and said it so well, what could I possibly add to it?  Nothing really.  Many of us here are very much like you and facing the same issues.

Nearly 3 months ago, I travel 3,100+ miles to move to one of the most trans-friendly places in America.  My marriage of nearly 20 years will end within a year or so, but she and I will remain good friends.  Friends?  Only have 2 from the old days.  I'm making new ones.  You'll have to do that too.

I'm 7.5 months on hormone replacement therapy.  I'm a "tweenie" now.  Not quite a guy (Thank God!) and not quite a gal (Damn it!).  One of the gals on this website and I have met in person.  We're becoming good friends.  She wants to take me out presenting as female in public for the very first time.  I'll do that soon, very soon.  I'm thrilled and scared. 

Like Sarah said, I'll just go out and be me and to heck with them all. 

Good luck to you!  By the way, there are many, many lawyers, doctors and other professionals who transitioned ... in mid-career ... with great success.  The doctor who oversees my hormone replacement therapy is one of them.  She owns the practice.  Nobody hassles her.  Keep us posted on your progress.

:)   Lacey Lynne
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