Question about ID's

[Jamie-o]

I live in WI and the only thing you need to change your state ID or DL is a letter saying you are in a gender reorientation program, also known as a carry letter.

Really?  The people at the DMV (or whatever it's called in this state) said I couldn't change it without surgery.    Hmmm.  I'm going to have to look into this further.

Edit:  I've scoured the WIDOT website, and I can't find their official stance on changing your gender on your DL.  Do you by any chance have a link, or can you tell me where you found the info?  Thanks.

[LordKAT]

I found the info at a number of places including  the local DMV, my therapist, and a familiar website which deals with the issue. I will find it and link it. I got mine changed without a letter BTW.
Post Merge: August 07, 2010, 01:58:47 PM
Wisconsin: DOT- DIS division allows gender change on drivers license prior to surgery if such person is enrolled in a transgender program leading to SRS. Wisconsin does link their driver record with the SSA, but this should not be a problem as long as the SSN, Name, Address, Age, etc. is all correct.

     http://www.tsroadmap.com/reality/drivers-license.html
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Wisconsin

Need: Therapist or doctors letter verifying living as male full-time and undergoing treatment. Est. Fee: Unknown

     http://www.thetransitionalmale.com/dlchange#57
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If you have questions (si tiene preguntas):

    * E-mail: driverrecords.dmv@dot.state.wi.us
    * Call: (608) 266-2353
http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/drivers/drivers/apply/getlic.htm

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[kyle_lawrence]

I had a few problems with people questioning my id because the picture didn't look like me anymore. I got a new id with an updated photo, and no problems.  See if you can get a new picture on yours, so even though it still says F, at least it looks like you.

[LordKAT]

Letter from WI DMV

Hello,
Thank you for contacting WisDOT for information on how gender discrepancies between the driver record and the Social Security
Administration (SSA) record will be handled with the implementation of  SSOLV.

The SSA record match compares the name, date of birth, social security number and gender, with the driver license record and identifies any  driver with a record that does not match the SSA name, date of birth, social security number and gender exactly. Only about 2% of the WisDOT records have any type of discrepancy as a result of the match with SSA records.

Wisconsin has always required an affidavit or statement that the driver is enrolled in a program leading to gender change, or has completed the surgery prior to changing the gender designation on the driver license.  The statement must be from a medical doctor or director of a facility specializing in gender change. This requirement is not new and will not change with the implementation of the Social Security Online Verification system (SSOLV). Drivers who provide appropriate physician documentation will be allowed to change the gender designation on their driver license one time. This will allow the driver time to complete the procedure and obtain a new Social Security Card. The WisDOT record will be notated and no future driver license will be issued until the SSA record is updated to reflect the new gender designation.

Wisconsin has never allowed a person to change his/her gender designation on the driver license until the applicant is enrolled in a gender change program or has completed the gender change surgery. All drivers must designate their physical birth gender on the application, to obtain a driver license.  The gender designation can be changed only if the driver provides physician documentation that he/she is enrolled in a gender change program or has completed the surgery.

The driver license must designate the physical gender of the driver, while the photo may reflect the appearance of a different gender. Although it may be inconvenient for a driver, if the physical gender and photo on the driver license do not match, it does not impact the driver's ability to obtain a driver license or to use that driver license for identification purposes.

Implementation of SSOLV did result in WisDOT changing its name change policy. Effective July 5, 2005, documentation (such as court order, marriage certificate, divorce decree, etc.) will be required to change the name on the driver license. When there is a name change, drivers need to:
1)  take the appropriate documents to the SSA to record the new name and
2) bring appropriate documentation of the name change and new social security card to DMV for a driver license in the new name. For more information regarding SSA acceptable proof of identify documents or SSA locations see the SSA web site at:  www.social security.gov. The SSA name change form can be obtained at http://social security.gov/online/ss-5.html.  Complete information on WisDOT acceptable proof of name change and date of birth documents can be obtained at:
http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/drivers/drivers/apply/doc/proof-dob.htm.

Although SSOLV and the new name change policy will result in some inconvenience for Wisconsin applicants, it will result in a safer
environment and help prevent identify theft.

Feel free to contact me if you have additional questions.

Sincerely,   Karen Schwartz, Chief   Qualifications and Issuance Section

Note the part in bold, letter confirming enrollment in gender reorientation program.

from: http://www.intersexualite.org/BirthRecord.html

[Jamie-o]

Thanks for the info, LordKat.  I notice they say that no new DL will be issued until the SSA has its records changed.  I wonder what they would do if the DL expired before one was able to save up for surgery.  I'll have to email them and ask.

[insideontheoutside]

I had a few problems with people questioning my id because the picture didn't look like me anymore. I got a new id with an updated photo, and no problems.  See if you can get a new picture on yours, so even though it still says F, at least it looks like you.

I was about to say the same thing .... just go get a replacement of your ID with a new picture on it. It should suffice.