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gender expression Vs physical being

Started by confused, August 11, 2010, 07:53:56 PM

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what's more important to you

people's acknowlegment of your gender
15 (39.5%)
having the body that corresponds with your gender
21 (55.3%)
none of those (elaborate?)
2 (5.3%)

Total Members Voted: 25

confused

was just doing a similar poll in the AG forum , i figured it would be interesting to hear others' thoughts about it
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Sinnyo

That's a really good question. I answered a little dishonestly, as while both factors are pretty much equal me, I am a little more concerned with the immediate problem of 'hairy, blocky man-body'. :) In the long run it'll be the way I'm perceived, though. Sensibility will win through!
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twistedpixie

Interesting question, for me they are almost equal, but having a body that corresponds with my gender wins out.
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Jeatyn

if there was a "both" answer I would have taken it, but I have to say the outside worlds perception of me wins out very slightly.

If I look male, I will be treated male, my trans status won't matter anywhere near as much to me then, I will be perfectly happy. If I could achieve this without hormones or surgery I'm pretty sure I wouldn't bother with them. I'd know I had a female body but if nobody else knew that'd be good enough for me.
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Alainaluvsu

I want to fit in, not like a square peg in a round hole to where I have to force myself in, but like a bird in migration. I want people to see me for my gender as if it is totally natural. Appearance is pretty important, because it's pretty difficult to view a guy with a beard and bushy eyebrows as a woman. However social acceptance is a result that comes from appearance, along with personality, therefore I'd rather the end result: to be accepted as a female :)
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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Janet_Girl

I voted "having the body that corresponds with your gender", because even if I am wearing just a top, jeans and am bra-less I still want the physical body to match the mental gender.

But I would have chosen "both", because I enjoy dressing a pretty as I can.
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Yakshini

I would have also voted for "both" had it been an option, but I lean more towards just being socially accepted as male. Granted, having a body to correspond with my gender would be fan-freaking-tastic, being accepted as is just more important to me.
For one, I enjoy crossdressing. In no way does this make me less of a man. But even when I am presenting as female, I still wish to be acknowledged as male. Heck, even if I were to suddenly magically become an XY male overnight and people still called me "she", I would be downright upset.
Hence, I voted for wanting to be socially accepted.
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Nero

I assumed this was for all trans folk, so I voted. My body. I don't care what other people think, as long as I'm happy in my existence.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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kyril

Being socially accepted as male wins for me, but only by a slight margin, and only if it means that I'm socially accepted as male all the time, even with my clothes off in an intimate situation. And it's difficult to see how that standard could be met without a male body.


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Maddi

I voted the "Other" one. Since I have no plans on ever getting the operation (well, as of now I don't.) My main goal is to just feel comfortable with who I am, and have at least one person I can just be myself around, whether it's masculine or feminine.

Although if I could snap my fingers and be in a womans body and have a place to start anew I would do so in a heartbeat. But wouldn't we all. lol. 
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Raven

I would rather be accepted as male socialy. And let me tell ya if I could just snap my fingers and have my male body I defently would. But that's just me heh
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Jesse S.

Having a body to match my gender.

This might change further down my path of course, but right now after years of presenting as a femme woman I just want to look more androgynous.  Right now I accept that many others will likely still read me as a woman or as a man (okay not this until changes are made,) for various factors like minds being stuck on the binary concept and the need to categorize.  I struggle to break free of those habits myself.

Erm.  Right now I am just beginning all over.  Changing how I dress, my hair.  Binding.  Trying to develop musculature in certain areas of my body, especially arms & shoulders.

I don't know if other things could ever be "fixed" physically.  My hips... ugh.  My internal organs.

Maybe one day it will be more important to have recognition from others, I just have anxiety that it might be rather difficult so I guess I don't want to get my hopes up.
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Fencesitter

A (fairly) male body is more important to me. I don't have to deal with society all the time, plus some people treated me fine even before transition. But I have to deal with my body all the time.
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spacial

I really don't care what others think. I know I use to, to the point of panic attacks. Then, I would have wanted to tick both, with an emphasis on the second. Mainly because, with a decent bodyshape, I could work on people.

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K8

They are almost equal, but being able to live my life as a woman is more important for me.  I can ignore my body, but having to pretend to be a man got to be too much.

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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Lewis

Both are important to me, but being seen by others as male wins out slightly. I could tolerate, if I had to, living with a female body if I could live in isolation. But when I am interacting with others every day, it's soul-destroying every time someone calls me "she" or "ma'am".
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Shang

I'd rather have a body that corresponds with my gender.  If I could at least have a male body and someone called me "she" I'd be fine with it.
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insanitylives

socially accepted as.
i can deal with certain aspects of my body being wrong better than others, but being seen as a girl kills a bit inside
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BunnyBee

I am like most other people it seems, it is like 50/50 for me but being seen and treated as the person I am on the inside is the most important to me by a hair.  It affects more aspects of my life and therefore I think it's absence would be more likely to summon the dysphoria beast, which is the thing that disrupts my quality of life more than anything else in this world.

On the other hand I don't think I have any hope of getting rid of dysphoria completely without completing surgery, so yes, very tough question :).
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Fencesitter

Quote from: Lewis on August 15, 2010, 10:25:26 AMBut when I am interacting with others every day, it's soul-destroying every time someone calls me "she" or "ma'am".

Thank you! "Soul-destroying" is the best expression I've ever heard for this.
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