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Trans Life In Seattle?

Started by xAndrewx, August 12, 2010, 02:19:52 PM

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xAndrewx

Sorry if this is in the wrong place, searched around a bit but didn't know where to post it. I think me and my mother have finally decided on Seattle, WA as the place to move. I looked at the policy to change my DL marker and such because it looks like any money I've been saving will be going toward the move, no big to me because I have already waited this long to transition and will just be happy to be away from here. Anyone transitioned there? Just looking for info on that and life in general there. We'll be moving without having the chance to see it first so I am trying to learn all I can now. Is it accepting? Thanks in advance :)

cynthialee

Seatle has a good sized trans comunity and services available to transitioners. It is a mostly open minded population.
Seatle is a mess of roads. I cant stand it when I have to drive through the place. You should do well in Seatle.
(I live near Spokane so I am not close but I have been to Seatle alot.)
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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xAndrewx

Thanks Cynthialee, I'll be coming from the huge tourist infested Orlando so at least I'll be used to the traffic somewhat. I'm glad to hear all of that, from someone on here who has visited there :)

cynthialee

Oh yeah one more thing.....I hope you like rain......... :icon_frown:
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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xAndrewx

Trust me, I love rain, I only wish my electronics, like my phone and mp3 player, liked rain as much as I do

xAndrewx

That's awesome Kvall, thanks for the info :) I really think I'm gonna love it there. Probably gonna be moving within a year, sooner hopefully though. I will miss my trans group here but I'm glad to hear that there is one there as well. From what I understand you have to be on Testosterone and gets a physician or psychiatrist's note in order to change your license? I know the info that I read might be old though. I hadn't realized domestic partnerships are legal there so that's cool to find out. :D

xAndrewx

Yeah, I hadn't realized how vague it was. A letter could count as that, very true. I've heard of that happening in the past but couldn't believe it. I've heard of some states where SRS is mandatory which would be bad since I don't know that I will ever get srs unless it is more perfected.

Epigania

Quote from: cynthialee on August 12, 2010, 03:26:55 PM
Oh yeah one more thing.....I hope you like rain......... :icon_frown:

Bah ... It doesn't rain THAT much here. :D  It's .. uhm .. overcast a lot though.  ;)  It's ooooooo much nicer here than the weather in FL.

There is a huge transgender community in the area and we're pretty well accepted in Seattle.

xAndrewx

Thanks Epigania I'm starting to think any weather is better than here. Wearing a tank-top, a binder, a t-shirt, and usually an overshirt in the average 100* weather of summer every day, it gets hot. I look forward to nice weather and overcast is better imo than sunny and reallly bright. Glad to hear of a big trans community :) I'm loving the idea of Seattle the more I learn.

Epigania

You'll love the weather here, then.  I moved here 8 years ago after growing up in Florida.  The first week I was here, the weather dipped into the low 70's (in August!) and I was freezing my tail off so I went to REI and bought the biggest coat I could find. *Blush*  There was no end to the taunting I got from the natives.

As for the rain, it doesn't rain any more here than it does in Florida.  The rain just comes in a prolonged "drizzle" instead of the monsoon that you get in FL.   And Thunder here is a gigantic deal.  People act like the world is ending.

I've found everyone here to be great.   I get the occasional glance when I'm having a bad day, but most of the time people don't even blink.  I HIGHLY recommend coming to Ingersoll meetings once you move here and get settled in.  I only recently started going, and feel like a dolt for not going sooner.   Everyone is so nice and friendly and full of great information and advice!


tekla

One, it's the West Coast, and with that, different sets of people to deal with.  Fewer Latins, more Chinese, lots more Japanese.  Some of that only matters when it comes to restaurants, but there are other differences, under the surface, that will appear over time, regarding work ethics and loyalty that might confuse people at first.

Unlike Orlando, Seattle is not a service economy, it's an industrial one.  And where Orlando is a HUGE service economy, Seattle is a HUGE industrial economy.  Lot's of I/E, and lots of IT.  Import/Export is a huge deal, and there are lots of jobs in and around that, and it offers some other things, like lot of weird stuff on sale (that somehow got stuck or 'fell off the boat' there in the harbor).  It's also home to Microsoft and a bunch of other IT stuff.  Did you know that Seattle has more millionaires per capita than any other US city?  It's true.  So there are a lot of opportunities to make money, apparently even large amounts of it, but its a pretty skilled environment to work in too.  More jobs for college grads in Seattle than Orlando, but fewer jobs for people w/o college too.

OK, it rains - but it only rains as much (or perhaps even less) than it does in other places.  Yeah, sure, whatever - cause when it rains in Seattle the sky opens up and dumps it in huge sheets.  It's not that happy little clouds roll across the afternoon sky and get everything a little wet and that's OK cause you can see it evaporating even as it hits the hot Orlando pavement.  Nope.  It's 'get the ark ready' rain.  And in the winter it's a chilled to the bone wet type cold water rain.  REI (which started in Seattle in 1939) used to have a shower-type room at the main store so you could wear different elements of rain gear in a lot of water and see how they hold up.  It's serious rain time.  For those that downplay the rain in Seattle, look at a map.  See that thing across the Puget Sound, Olympic National Park?  And Mount Olympus looks spectacular out over the Sound on a clear day too.)  Well Olympic National Park is the only (as in, ONLY ONE) rain forest in the contiguous United States.  That's some serious rain, when you can get your own rain forest going I'll tell you.

It's not just wet, it's pretty much damp most of the time.  Somethings never dry, they just sort of rot/mold/mildew away.  Oh, and the reason that lighting is such a big deal is, a) its a lot more rare, and b) lighting starts forest fires, and forest fires out West can destroy huge areas.  So it's a big deal.  In the midwest every frickin' building has a lighting rod, out West, I almost never see them. 

But it does avoid that Too Hot to do anything that the South and other places get, and the Too Cold For Life that the Midwest and NE get - so you can be out and about pretty much year round.  And since there is all this water there in the form of rain, the Puget Sound, rivers, snow, waterfalls and all that - well then you might as well just get wet and there is a lot of boat stuff (fishing, sailing, kayaking, team rowing) to do.  And, there is very much that West Coast physical culture deal that is heavily present.  People ride their bikes (serious bikes too, lots of road bikes, mtn bikes and dual use bikes) year-round.  People go up into the mountains year-round.  People camp year-round.  It is like some of the most mind blowing natural beauty of any place in the world and all that, so people are into it and use it.

So, like most West Coast places, there is no quicker way to meet people then doing your favorite out-door stuff, and no better way to be alone in Seattle than not to do any of that stuff - because just about everyone is doing that kind of stuff, at least some of it.  In Seattle, REI is not just a camping/outdoors store - it's the major fashion statement.  All that Columbia 'system clothing' stuff?  In Seattle people actually wear it.

De Island Culture, Mon.  Here's a weird deal about Seattle.  There are all these little communities out on these islands in the Puget Sound.  It would take a whole other post of this length to describe them, but it's very strange, very cool, and pretty unique to that area.  Some are artist deals, some weird religious inbreeding stuff, groups of people with similar interests like sailing.  I think it takes a while to get all that though, they tend to be isolated, which is what they want.

It's a heroin city.  Portland likes Meth.  LA crack and blow, and SF alcohol and pot - but Seattle really loves heroin.  I don't know why.  I just know it's true.  Lots of junkies in Seattle.  Stay clear of them, but that's pretty easy, it's not like they move very fast or anything.  They are noddin, and not actively being crazy like the crack and meth heads.
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Epigania

Hehe ...

Ok .. Tekla was much more thorough but pretty accurate.  She doesn't exhagurate when it comes to REI and the Outdoor life around here.  One of the first things the locals at work asked me when I moved here was "Have you gotten your REI membership yet?"  And people are known to commute to work 20 - 30 miles on bike.  (We have this amazing bike trail system here and a beautiful park called Marymoore Park that you'll HAVE to visit...)

People don't really use umbrella's here.   Columbia makes these great shells that are waterproof but breath that I see lots of people wear.   The Titanium series lets you put in the warmer linings when it gets cold. 

I would have to disagree at the level of rain Tekla describes.   We DO tend to get weeks of continuous precipitation (some call it rain, where I come from in FL we called it sleet or heavy fog).   Where I work, the ground never actually dries out.  It gets so drenched in the winter the bit of sun we get in the summer's isn't enough to really dry it out.

So ya ... Not really about Trans Life, but Life in Seattle ... Good stuff. :D

xAndrewx

Sorry for the delayed response. I've never been much of an outdoors kind of guy unless you count horseback riding as an outdoor sport. Spent my life until soon as a strictly city boy but I look forward to it. Wow... last time I road my bike thirty miles I felt like I was gonna die! That's crazy! But I do love biking and getting to check out beautiful parks so that will be a must do :) Good to know about the job thing Tekla, I'm working on a college degree now so I'm not too worried. I look forward to being able to get out and explore it all. Thanks :)

tekla

Well it's pretty lucky then that you don't have to be an outdoor guy to become one.  But it's something cool to look forward to.  People on the West Coast don't go to church as much as other people (not even close in the US) but they do go outside all the time, and, in that, find some physical/mental/spiritual power in all of that.  And there is a premium, that has almost become a minimum, on basic physical fitness - on being able to keep up.  Its something you might not even notice at first, because its so pernicious, but it does creep up on you, and you'll find that outdoor lingo in all sorts of conversations.  What kind/type/number/season tent do you have?  How many seasons is your sleeping bag?  Boat stuff, ski stuff, camping everywhere and hiking and biking big time.  All of which is nice.  You'll find that same stuff in Portland, SF/Bay Area, LA/San Diego with regional twists and variations, but the same basic physical culture deal.

My advice.  Start with a bike.  West Coast is pretty good on bikes, lots of paths, bike lanes and all that.  And it's a great way to get to know someplace.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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