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Anti-trans ‘feminists’, you’ve got it so wrong

Started by Shana A, August 28, 2010, 11:36:27 AM

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Shana A

  Anti-trans 'feminists', you've got it so wrong
The exclusion of trans people from women's spaces is a tired and mistaken type of 'feminism', writes 3P.

http://www.thescavenger.net/isgd/anti-trans-feminists-you-have-got-it-so-wrong-89423.html

"Do you actually, seriously, think that trans women don't experience sexist oppression?"

Trans women experience extremely high rates of homelessness, sexual violence, violence generally, depression and anxiety, addiction, eating disorders, sexist objectification, poverty, and a whole bunch of other things.

When it comes to cis women, we have no issue seeing these personal problems as directly linked to patriarchy.

When it comes to trans women with very similar problems, heaps of people have no problem arguing that they brought those problems upon themselves.
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Arch

QuoteI once went to a lecture where Sheila Jeffreys  argued that trans women are actually masochistic men who fetishise the rape of women to the extent that they construct women's bodies that they can control, that they can arrange to be raped.

Clearly. And, just as clearly, trans men are actually disempowered women who fetishize men's power to the extent that they construct men's bodies so that they can control women and themselves avoid being raped.

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spacial

As ridiculously laughable as the claim is, it does highlight the obscession these women have with rape.

I can't accept that this is borne out of a hatred or fear of rape. I apologise if that offends some. Such obscessive interest in this behaviour, to the point of claiming all men are rapists, seems to be grounded in other obscessions.

I note from this woman's profile: http://www.ssps.unimelb.edu.au/about/staff/profiles/jeffreys she says:

QuoteMy previous book, Beauty and Mysogyny: Harmful Cultural Practices in the West (Routledge 2005) argues that western beauty practices such as makeup, high heel shoes, cosmetic surgery, should be included in UN understandings of harmful cultural practices.

So, she wants to put western women's clothing on the same par as FGM. (Presumably, it will be OK for non-western women to continue dressing like this. Racism is OK for these types). Or, perhaps she comes from the school which believes that all problems in non-wester societies come from the influence of the nasty westerners. We really shouldn't have stopped widdow burning in India, it was a terrible piece of cultural fascism and a harmeless example of an innocent primitive culture.

Puts me in mind of some white South Africans who fled to the UK to avoid having to face up to their responsibilities for what they had done there. they claimed that they never wanted to destroy the African cultures, but to preserve their unique primitivness from western influence.

Then she says:

QuoteI supervise PHD and Honours and MA students in all of the areas mentioned above. PHD topics that I supervise or have supervised include work on lesbian identity, prostitution in Victoria, feminism and animal liberation, women and the League of Nations, the construction of female sexuality, sexism in outdoor advertising, the international sex industry, lesbian community. Honours and MA topics have included the outsourcing of domestic work, stalking as a human rights violation, intersexuality, prostitution, trafficking, reproductive technology, arranged marriage, ->-bleeped-<-.

Which basically says, give what she has said previously, that any MAs or PHDs she is responsible for awarding will conform to her preverted and disturbed view of the world.

Or to put it another way, degrees are not so much a matter of learning and thinking as kissing the backside of those awarding them.

Anyone wanna trade their brain for a degree?
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cynthialee

Quote from: spacial on August 28, 2010, 12:44:00 PMOr to put it another way, degrees are not so much a matter of learning and thinking as kissing the backside of those awarding them.Anyone wanna trade their brain for a degree?
Quoted for truth.
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If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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