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Char

Hello group.
I am new here.  I am a Mother who loves her son very much. My son talked to me last night about his feelings of being a woman being trapped in a mans body. For the first time in my life I finally understand what he has been trying to express to me all the years of his life. I feel so bad for him because he is so sad and lonely and he just wants to be loved.  I dont understand all of this. All I know is that I am sad and my heart is hurting for the loneliness and the saddness that my son is feeling. I love him unconditionally and accept him for who he truely is inside.  I worry that others will treat my son badly and will never understand the beautiful and good hearted person he is inside.
well this is my first post here. I hope to learn more and be able to reach out with support and love. thank you for listening.
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beth

Welcome Char,

                 Your daughter is so very fortunate to have you as a mother.  There's lots of information here for both of you. I wish you both the very best.


Again, welcome to Susan's

beth
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Char

thank you. I am glad to find this website. There is not many people I know that I can talk to.  I tried to get into the chat room but for some reason it wont let me in. Maybe I am doing something wrong?
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tinkerbell

Hello Char and welcome to Susan's!

I'm very touched by your story, and your daughter is a very lucky gal indeed. I applaud your strength and wish you the very best.  Please feel free to drop by and tell us how everything is going from time to time. 

:icon_hug:

tinkerbell :icon_chick:
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Kim

Hello & Welcome Char,
    It's certainly beautiful to see a supportive mother. There's a wiki on this site you can access from the home page which is loaded with lots of info for you as well as numerous sites on the web  :icon_paper: so grab a coffee and surf around. The girls here are a fountain of information as well. I am IS and though some things are similar for both myself and a TS, a lot are different and I cannot pretend to understand every step they go through. One thing your daughter is lucky about is your support which helps her more than you know. Just let her guide you both through the steps of transition as she is ready and she will do alright. Best of luck,
                                    Kim
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Kate

Hi Char, and welcome to Susans!

If only all parents were as understanding and compassionate as you :)

Having someone to talk to is SO important, both for you, AND your daughter. It's when this stuff gets all bottled up inside that we get into trouble.

You'll find a TON of information here... as well as wonderfully supportive and compassionate people.

One book I personally love is called "True Selves," by by Mildred L. Brown and nd Chloe Ann Rounsley. It has it's faults, but overall it's a great introduction to the subject.

Welcome again! It's great to have you here ;)

Kate
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Char

 thank you all for your replies. I have to say that I have having such a hard time today. I cant stop crying. I am asking God alot of questions and I dont understand why he didnt just let my son be born a female why do people have to suffer like this? My son is suffering, I always knew there was something different about my son but I never knew what it was. Today I have come to the realization, today I know, today is hard. My God, what im feeling is so intense, I cant imagine the emotional pain my son has been going through, has gone through is whole life.  If only I knew before, I would have been more tender and more loving and more caring. I just didnt know.
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HelenW

Welcome, Char!

I can't add much to what the others have already said except thank you for being so kind and supportive to your child.  If there are any questions you might have, please fell free to ask - no honest question is taboo around here - and if I can answer I surely will.  Of course many of the other guys and gals here will probably beat me to it.

I'd like to second Kate's recommendation of True Selves.  I got my copy through Amazon.com.  Currently my mom is reading it.  It's kind of "textbooky" but it's easy to read and understand.

I wish you the best of luck in your quest, Char.

hugs & smiles,
helen
FKA: Emelye

Pronouns: she/her

My rarely updated blog: http://emelyes-kitchen.blogspot.com

Southwestern New York trans support: http://www.southerntiertrans.org/
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tinkerbell

Quote from: Char on December 10, 2006, 02:38:12 PM
thank you all for your replies. I have to say that I have having such a hard time today. I cant stop crying. I am asking God alot of questions and I dont understand why he didnt just let my son be born a female why do people have to suffer like this? My son is suffering, I always knew there was something different about my son but I never knew what it was. Today I have come to the realization, today I know, today is hard. My God, what im feeling is so intense, I cant imagine the emotional pain my son has been going through, has gone through is whole life.  If only I knew before, I would have been more tender and more loving and more caring. I just didnt know.

Hi Char;

The most important thing is that you support your daughter now.  You both will go through this together, as a family, and she will not be alone.  Thank Goodness for parents like you!  it makes all the difference in the world.  Please take a second to read this article in our main page.   I also recommend the book True Selves and this one.  You should be very proud of yourself Char, for you are one of a kind...and I'm sure your daughter knows this. :)

tinkerbell :icon_chick:
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Kimberly

Very warm welcome Char,

I really am pleased when parent visits, truly.

I think most everything has been said already save help with chat which really isn't forte however I expect we can make that work for you if you would like to describe what kind of problem you are having with it.


From the spiritual side I would like to comment that pretty much everything would seem to happen for a reason, regardless of our understanding. As such perhaps it would be better to focus not on why but rather how to make it better. Transsexualism is no fun at all to be sure but it very definitely can be made MUCH more tolerable.  Now that the problem is found (never hurts to make sure, of course) it would be beneficial to start looking at what can be done to help.

I am guessing but probably the most important thing you can do right now is to talk to your child and make sure she understands that you love her regardless. That is VERY VERY important and I echo what others have said.

But whatever else can be said, Thank you for being a compassionate parent.
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Jillieann Rose

Welcome Char,
I think this best thing you can do fro your child is love her unconditional and except her as she is ion the inside. And I see that you are already doing that. There is allot of infromation and people will to share here. Have you check out the Wiki with ton of info on gender topics.
Again welcome and it is a pleasure to meet you Char.
:) :)
Jillieann/JR
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Char

thank you for your words. Just a little bit of info about my son. He is 24 yrs old. He moved away from home 6 months ago. He wasnt able to tell me these things about himself when he was here living at home.  He used to have alot of anger towards me. Last night was the first time he has spoken to me in 6 months. He called me on the telephone. He was crying and depressed. I dont know if and when he will call me back again. He had been drinking and he doesnt usually drink. I only hope he doesnt feel bad today for telling me the things he told me.   
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TheBattler

Hi Char,

Wellcome here to Susans  - it is always great when a parent is so supportive of their childern.

I recently came out to my parents as a crossdressor - after 36 years my emotions got the better of me and I had to tell them what I was feeling. It was a very emoptonal time when I told my father but we are all the better for when I came out.

It sounds like your son is going thorugh a hard time and has some depression - Drinking and crying is a sign of that. Can you call your son to tell him you love him and will support him in whatever he decides to do? I am sure he wouyld really apreciate that.

Alice
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HelenW

I came out to my mom about three months ago.  She's 79 years old.  She cried and was confused and really didn't know what to do or say about it.  I got very upset over her reaction, thinking, "oh my goodness what have I done?"

Later that evening as she was getting ready for bed I was in the room with her she gave me a big hug and said, "You're still my child and I love you no matter what."  That made ALL the difference and I think that's the first thing you should tell your child too.

hugs & smiles,
helen
FKA: Emelye

Pronouns: she/her

My rarely updated blog: http://emelyes-kitchen.blogspot.com

Southwestern New York trans support: http://www.southerntiertrans.org/
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Kate

Quote from: Char on December 10, 2006, 02:38:12 PM
I cant stop crying. I am asking God alot of questions and I dont understand why he didnt just let my son be born a female why do people have to suffer like this?

You know why I think He allows it?

Look around the forum. Read the posts... especially what happens when people are hurting and in trouble. See the empathy and unwavering compassion and support that flows from everyone. The openness and understanding and open-mindedness freely given out of love.

TSism hurts. It's awful. It's cruel and unfair. But it also seems to create some of the most beautiful souls I've ever had the pleasure of "meeting" as well. There are insights and wonderful perspectives that come with being TS that help take the edge off the pain. A little bit anyway ;)

We've kicked around the question, "if you could go back and start over, would you be a genetic girl? Or would you be TS again?" It might surprise you to learn that a number of people would choose to be TS again. They value the lessons they've learned and the people they've become THAT much.

Myself, I've said I just wish I'd been an ordinary girl from birth. What breaks my heart the most isn't the struggles ahead - it's missing the girlhood I'll never have now. And yet, I also can't deny that this condition truly has painted my entire life with a kind of tragic beauty, giving it meaning and purpose, giving me a unique lens through which to experience and touch this world. My entire being evolved around it... I've never known a moment without it, I've never been "lost" in the way so many people describe in searching for meaning and purpose in their lives. I've always known my destiny, my purpose, my life's challenge. And for that, I'm unbelievably grateful and blessed.

I just wish I didn't wait forty-two years before realizing that my "demon" was actually my angel trying to SAVE me ;)
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Kate

Quote from: Char on December 10, 2006, 04:22:58 PM
He called me on the telephone. He was crying and depressed. I dont know if and when he will call me back again. He had been drinking and he doesnt usually drink.

If she calls back, do you think she might like to join Susans if you tell her about us?

Sorry about the confusing pronoun usage, by the way - we generally figure that if someone identifies as a female, then we'll use female pronouns ;)

Keep in mind that there are therapists out there who specialize in gender issues. They can be a bit tricky to find, but they're out there. There are web pages with lists of them... I'll try to find a few sources and get back to you. Not everyone pursues the therapy route, but it's generally considered a good idea to help people sort out their feelings. The emotional struggles ahead for your daughter are *enormous* - and a good therapist can help her identify and deal with them. We've all evolved our ways of coping with - or avoiding - the pain, some methods much more self-destructive than others... but in the end, we HAVE to face it.

Alone, that task seems *impossible*. But with the help of family, friends, and often experienced professionals... she CAN get through this to find her particular resolution to all this. Honestly.
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Bob

Hi Mom !
Welcome to Suzans !
All I can say is .... Been there done that !  My Son told me practially the same thing...I was shocked to say the least... but it did make sense as you know from
all the little things that were not quite right in their childhood.
.... personally , I wouldn't wish being TS on my worst enemy, its a crule fate
and extreamily hard... HOWEVER... there is some good in it ! ...
I now have a Daughter I can be proud of, some day when the SRS is all done
I believe things will more or less get back to normal...
  Remember this TS is a Birth defect, it is not some weird Fettish or preversion
there is a big diference  the brain is simply of oppisit sex than the body
we can't change the brain, but we can change the body to match .
I think its a hard thing to put a parent through , but its not as if they wanted this delima in the first place... toughen up yourself Mom !this is not an easy path for you or your Kid. but it is a nessarry one
  Keep this a secret  don't be telling your friends as they can't possably understand, and once word gets out there is no way back.... they will all find out soon enough.
....
Learn what being TS is ! Understand it ! its not cross-dressing  its something entirely diferent.... Understand it so you can explain it to others when asked.
....
as I said , I've been there done that, if i can help in any way just say the word !  I love my Kid completely as any father should, this even includes him transisioning to a girl.....  I will do all I can to help... in any way possable....its the least I can do !
...
so take hart Mom...
there are others out here that have been there done that before you...and we survived it too.... <grin>   once you UNDERSTAND the tears will cease. its the Not knowing "what the heck is going on " that is causeing most of your pain!
so..... LEARN Kiddo.... LEARN !
And the best place to do that is right here !

Seriously, Holler at me if I can help ya !
Bob........

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beth

Quote from: Char on December 10, 2006, 04:22:58 PM
thank you for your words. Just a little bit of info about my son. He is 24 yrs old. He moved away from home 6 months ago. He wasnt able to tell me these things about himself when he was here living at home.  He used to have alot of anger towards me. Last night was the first time he has spoken to me in 6 months. He called me on the telephone. He was crying and depressed. I dont know if and when he will call me back again. He had been drinking and he doesnt usually drink. I only hope he doesnt feel bad today for telling me the things he told me.   


                     If it were me I would contact him in any way possible as soon as possible to let him know he has your complete support. Let him know this makes sense to you.  I would not force him to talk about it anymore at this time but let him know he can talk any time he wants to.  I would be sure to let him know he is welcome to come home also. (If he is, that is)


beth
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Julie Marie

Quote from: Char on December 10, 2006, 02:38:12 PM
thank you all for your replies. I have to say that I have having such a hard time today. I cant stop crying. I am asking God alot of questions and I dont understand why he didnt just let my son be born a female why do people have to suffer like this? My son is suffering, I always knew there was something different about my son but I never knew what it was. Today I have come to the realization, today I know, today is hard. My God, what im feeling is so intense, I cant imagine the emotional pain my son has been going through, has gone through is whole life.  If only I knew before, I would have been more tender and more loving and more caring. I just didnt know.

Hi Char.  Welcome to Susan's.  I think you'll find you've come to the right place.

Don't blame yourself.  One of the things you need to understand is the problem isn't with your daughter, the problem is with society.  When children are born we automatically look between their legs and put them on one of two paths with all the expectations that go along with it.  The child is too young and too new to the world to realize what happened let alone speak up for him/herself.  While you may fear what the future holds for your lovely child, what she needs most is your support.

Her anger and pain are understandable.  Most likely she's lived with this bottled up all her life.  The presssure gets to you and you want to scream.  Some keep it bottled up for decades, but along the way a lot of damage can be done.  Be thankful she has had the courage to talk to you at such a young age.

At this time in your lives, you'll both need to understand you are not alone.  There's millions out there like your daughter and millions of parents like you struggling with this.  The more you learn the more accepting you will be.  The more accepting you become the more you will know this isn't anything to be ashamed of.  We are all creatures of God and She doesn't make mistakes.  Your daughter has been given a great gift and in her life will teach others things like tolerance; judging a person for who they are inside, not how they look; finding beauty in the uniqueness in all of us.  She will make you proud.  But right now she needs to know, no matter what, you will always be there for her.

Go easy.  Don't ask too many questions about why she is this way but instead how she feels.  Encourage her to express herself and no matter how you feel about her appearance, look inside her soul at the goodness you described here.  You will see her beauty emanate outwardly from within her.

All the best,
Julie
When you judge others, you do not define them, you define yourself.
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Bob

Well said Julie !
And Beth ! you hit a very important point there !
You know, the reason Her Son probly had the currage to tell Mom in the first place was probly because he was 3/4 drunk... it is very important that Mom tells
her Kid that its OK,,, I love ya anyway ! RELAX !    its VITAL !
right now Her Kid is probly more depressed than SHE has ever been in her life...
and Suiside is not far enough out of the picture !   
Make the effort Mom... even if its show up at her/his work place to say "its OK... I love ya !"   and then leave... its that important right now !
if you have to miss work to do it then miss work !  heck its only money !
....
  I keep forgetting that normal parents don't see things the way I do, and I forget to warn of the consiquences.   Mom be concerned ! be very concerned !
this is probly the most dangerous time in your Kids life . Suicide clames more TS people than any other... it is imperitive that You Support your child Now.
... No body said it would be easy.... but Love will give you the striength you need to get ya through !.
... in the future you will look back and think Man ! I was sooo very worried,so confuzed, so hurt... thinking what did I do wrong ?   but you will realise it is not your fault or your Kids fault.... it just is. 
accept it and Move on...  get over the pain as fast as possable...
...
Hope that helps.
Bob.......

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