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Mirrors and Self Image

Started by Riannah, July 27, 2010, 04:31:42 PM

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Riannah

I've been living full-time for about a year now but am still pre-hormones (will be starting very very soon though :-))

So, I always present as woman, but when I see myself in a mirror,  I sometimes see a woman and sometimes see an androgynous person trying to look like a woman. Seeing an androgynous person trying to look like a woman is obviously very disturbing to me. Nothing wrong with androgynous persons at all, but as I am M2F I wish to always see the woman that I am. Not seeing a woman is not at all good for my self-esteem and if this happens right before I have to leave the house I might have a panic-attack or two and need to take very very deep breaths before I can actually go out.

On a side-note: I've noticed that what I see in the mirror doesn't always necissarily have anything to do with make-up, hair, clothes, etc. Why? I don't know.

The whole mirror thing made me think about how people who are anorexic have a wrong self image. They look in the mirror and see a fat person, but in reality they are very skinny. Can this in any way be compared to how we experience looking in the mirror? I was thinking, what if even if I do see a woman in the mirror, I am the only one who actually sees it? OMG!!! The whole how-people-respond can be confusing enough, but if people always only call me a woman because they think that's the proper thing to do because they see I am presenting as a woman, then OMG! LOL. I am freaking myself out with this thought and I surely don't mean to freak anyone else here out, so forgive me if I just did.. I just find it fascinating that what I see in the mirror isn't always the same thing, eventhough I try so hard. In our case what we see may have a lot to do with 'practical' things, like needing a haircut with the right bangs or facial hair that grows back after laser, but still, fascinating.

I'm guessing that the mirror thing has a lot to do with self-esteem and attitude and I'm also guessing that hormones may change this in a good way.

What are your mirror experiences like?
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cynthialee

Until the last 6 months I avoided mirrors like the plaque. I sometimes would break down in tears from seeing how male I was.
What changed?
I started HRT about 9 months ago. I grew small boobs and my face has drasticaly changed and I see the female in the mirror now instead of a hideous male face I loathed.
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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Riannah

Quote from: cynthialee on July 27, 2010, 04:36:01 PM
Until the last 6 months I avoided mirrors like the plaque. I sometimes would break down in tears from seeing how male I was.
What changed?
I started HRT about 9 months ago. I grew small boobs and my face has drasticaly changed and I see the female in the mirror now instead of a hideous male face I loathed.

Good for you! :)

I would not know how to avoid mirrors. It's kinda hard to put make-up on and do my hair without one :)

It's just torture to have to wait so long for HRT.. Since 2008.. One more week to wait.. Your changes because of the hormones give me hope! :)
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sysm29

When I dress up as a girl, I saw a girl, and I was kinda overwhelmed by how real it looked.  I've always looked different in the mirror though than I actually do in real life.  The mirror is not the way we look to other people, its the mirrored image of our faces, and that is very scary for me because as someone who is trans, I spend a lot of time studying my image in the mirror and to know that its distorted makes me very insecure about passing.  There are times I look in the mirorr and I see a man.  There are times I see a teenage boy.  I'm 25, I don't think I'll have many more of those days when I see a teenager.  I know that I don't really look the way I do in the mirror, that it's probably my mind creating an illusion that I want to see.
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Ayaname

I have some days where I can look in the mirror and see a female and then 5 minutes later I look in the mirror again and just see my old self. I find that it seems to happen the most right before I'm about to go somewhere. It's like my mind is trying to sabotage my self esteem.
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kelly_aus

I've spent 35 years avoiding mirrors, never owned one except for the standard bathroom mirror - which I would avoid ever looking at.. I shaved by touch.. Since accepting myself, I went out and bought a mirror - it's hard to do makeup when you can't see what you are doing..  :) I'm still pre-HRT and sill need a little time before I venture out fully as the woman I am, but I'm taking another step towards that every day.. You may find that when you start HRT that the issues you are having with sometimes seeing a female and sometimes not, will fade. It could also be those insecurities we all have..
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ggina

There was a really good thing I think Keira, a -now inactive- member of this forum wrote: if you want to see in the mirror how others see you, don't stare at the reflection for too long. Give yourself only 1-2 seconds; because after that, your brain starts to kick in and notice the small things others don't see. If you see a woman during that short timeframe, then it's OK.

As for me, I used to loathe myself but never really hated mirrors. I've always been trying to find something beautiful in my face, something to hold onto. And while I never liked the overall look, I sometimes succeeded in finding those likeable little details :)

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Jillieann Rose

Yes mirrors and minds are tricky things.
I like what ggina said. Don't stare.
I've been on HRT for over 9 months.
At first glance I often see a women looking back at me.
But if I stop and stare I see my old self.
When I work on my face , put on makeup ect...
It just concentrate on the area I am working on.
That helps me.
Jilllieann
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Epigania

Ugh ... Mirrors ...

I hate them.  I look at myself for more than a few minutes at a time and it makes me nauseous and starts depressing me.   I used to have a picture of me in my avatar on the forum here, and seeing that ugly person staring back at me everytime I came to the site started to do it's thing on me so I had to take it down.

I have no advice.  But I know your pain.