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Started by GinaDouglas, October 02, 2010, 10:35:26 PM

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GinaDouglas

Most people on these boards are very well-intentioned.  But I see stuff every week that I know is not true.  People presenting their fantasies as personal experience.
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Asfsd4214

Sort of like right now then?  ::)
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Cindy

Hi Gina,

As a support site Susan's recieve all sorts of messages. As long as they are within the TOS they are welcome. Some people need to build their confidence before they can accept themselves. I think that is a normal reaction. Yes I think we all know that we read a post that doesn't ring true, but I also have to admit I don't find many.

Cindy


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spacial

I also understand you feelings Gina.

I've learnt from quite bitter experience that the old addage 'There's nowt queer as folk' to be true. Many people have done quite strange things in their lives and these can often seem to be almost impossible to us. But often, the issue is that they are outside our own experiences.

Another problem, when people talk as intimately as they do on here, is that we can often get our timing mixed up. I know I've done this myself, recalling events which happened at a particular time only to later realise, they happened later or earlier.

But again, with the sort of very personal issues that we discuss here, many people find recalling some things difficult and will include those embelishments they have put upon them, simply to help them deal with situations.

I don't know how many have ever found a repressed menory. I was once pushed to remember an incident when I was incredably frightened. I still don't understand how I forgot it in the first place.

Your cynicism is natural of course. But as Cindy says, this is a support site. For many, facing up to problems they have attempted, for many years, to avoid. So a bit of lattitude is called for.

For me, personally, to find such a bunch of incredably caring and tolerant people who have simply accepted me, without judgement or snide comment has made me all the more determined to try my best to give that to others.
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rejennyrated

Quote from: spacial on October 03, 2010, 03:53:33 AM
I also understand you feelings Gina.

I've learnt from quite bitter experience that the old addage 'There's nowt queer as folk' to be true. Many people have done quite strange things in their lives and these can often seem to be almost impossible to us. But often, the issue is that they are outside our own experiences.

Another problem, when people talk as intimately as they do on here, is that we can often get our timing mixed up. I know I've done this myself, recalling events which happened at a particular time only to later realise, they happened later or earlier.

But again, with the sort of very personal issues that we discuss here, many people find recalling some things difficult and will include those embelishments they have put upon them, simply to help them deal with situations.

I don't know how many have ever found a repressed menory. I was once pushed to remember an incident when I was incredably frightened. I still don't understand how I forgot it in the first place.

Your cynicism is natural of course. But as Cindy says, this is a support site. For many, facing up to problems they have attempted, for many years, to avoid. So a bit of lattitude is called for.

For me, personally, to find such a bunch of incredably caring and tolerant people who have simply accepted me, without judgement or snide comment has made me all the more determined to try my best to give that to others.
^This^

As someone who had had my fair share of general life weirdness some people might even have suspected me in the past. The thing is, several people on here now actually know me in real life and therefore could prove that I actually play things with a pretty straight bat. Which just goes to show that you never can tell.

So I think you do need to be careful. There are many people on here who stir my bull->-bleeped-<- detector, but in the absence of evidence I have to give them the benefit of the doubt because I have learned from my own experience that sometimes truth can be at least as strange, if not stranger than fiction.
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spacial

I understand your point about a bull->-bleeped-<- detector jenny. Personally, I do everything I can to avoid it, certainly in situations like Susans'. (Though I do rely upon it when dealing with people who want my money).

I recall, when I first came to this country I had a broad N American accent. Being the mid 60s it contrbuted to me being the but of resentment. Though being effininate and wanting to play with girls didn't help.

Anyway, I eventually started listening to TV programs and repeating the way people spoke to try to get rid of it. (Even today, some people ask me where my accent comes from).

A few years later, when I was at school, in a geography class, the teacher, a big tough guy type, was explaining that, though the UK and Canada are at the same latitudes, Canada is a lot colder. To illustrate this, he claimed that in BC, you can throw a bucket of water and it will be frozen before it hits the ground.

Now I've been in BC and peed in the snow. Once, I fell into an open drain and had to run home.  But I just smiled when I heard this. Another of the boys in the class said I'd been in BC. The teacher immediatly shouted out Bull->-bleeped-<-!

That's the problem with judging others. Eventually we end up comparing them to ourselves and our own realities and that makes us bitter.
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pebbles

Like what? O-o given some of the frankly bizarre things that have happened to me in my life more so than i'm inclined to believe most personal anecdotes to within physical implausibility I may have a different interpretation than some with some of the more outlandish experiences.


Simply Reality is unrealistic at times.
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Colleen Ireland

Quote from: spacial on October 03, 2010, 12:08:21 PMA few years later, when I was at school, in a geography class, the teacher, a big tough guy type, was explaining that, though the UK and Canada are at the same latitudes, Canada is a lot colder. To illustrate this, he claimed that in BC, you can throw a bucket of water and it will be frozen before it hits the ground.

He was thinking of Winnipeg, Manitoba, where -40 is very common, and it gets even colder than that.  I've seen a video of a person standing at Portage and Main (main intersection in Winnipeg) and doing exactly that.  The water was boiling, IIRC.  But no, not BC.  There's a reason they call it "Winter-peg"...  ::)

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K8

As others have said, this is a support site.  Sometimes I think some people live out their fantasies here, but I see nothing wrong with that, personally or as a moderator.  It took me a long time to deal with my gender issues.  If embellishments or fantasies are how someone needs to deal with theirs, fine.  Mostly, though, I've found people here helpful and caring and responsive.

I've also been around the block a few times, so I've found that some people lead very strange (to me) lives.

But I don't believe that a pail of water will freeze unless perhaps if it is dribbled out.  It gets in the minus 30s here, too. (That's Fahrenheit; minus forties Celsius).

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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Colleen Ireland


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K8

Oops.  I knew that. :icon_redface:  It must be the hormones. ::)

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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Colleen Ireland

Quote from: K8 on October 03, 2010, 04:45:59 PM
Oops.  I knew that. :icon_redface:  It must be the hormones. ::)

- Kate

Can't wait till I have that excuse, lol!   :laugh:

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spacial

Quote from: K8 on October 03, 2010, 04:11:07 PM

But I don't believe that a pail of water will freeze unless perhaps if it is dribbled out.  It gets in the minus 30s here, too. (That's Fahrenheit; minus forties Celsius).

- Kate

To be frank, I don't think any of us did. I seem to recall, he was attempting to demonstrate that, inspite of being the same latitude, the climate was colder. It was just unfortunate for him, that in this case, one of us had first hand experience.

He was a lousey geography teacher, but a pretty mean rugby player. If he got the ball, he'd just charge through almost any lines, knocking people over. Once, during a game with a particularly tough day school, their players ran out the way of him.

He once walloped me across the face. There was a debate planned on some silly issue. So many turned up to support one side, (not the side I was supporting), I called it a mass-de-bate.

I understand he died in a house fire.
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