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Does childhood sexual abuse have anything to do with transsexualism

Started by kimmie, January 23, 2007, 09:57:12 PM

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Cruelladeville

No....

As sexual abuse is an all together issue...

Does it affect the people abused this, as in the Pedo catholic priest's yes obviously.... >:-)

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rejennyrated

While the two are not causally related it is true that if you grow up openly expressing your trans nature as I did in the 1960's you can become a target.

I was raped whilst still at school, something which left its mark on me, more than I cared to admit at the time.

I have to say that for me it had no effect on my sexuality or feelings about my gender, but it did give me some huge issues of trust towards people for some considerable time.

So no they aren't directly related - but also yes - it is not a big surprise that there are many people here who have had experience of this.
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pheonix

I'm going to echo the "not related" sentiments, but also toss on a caveat that if you are seeing a therapist, it is sort of essential the topic and possibility of causality be discussed.  First because if the issue exists and is not dealt with, it will color your behavior and decisions.  Transition in and of itself is a difficult road -- if there are *any* other issues or baggage a transitioner is carrying, it's best to deal with those before adding more stress to your life.  I've seen too many transpeople destroy their lives, not because they transitioned, but because they transitioned without dealing with other major problems in their life.

There is a tendency for some transpeople to view GID as the cause of all their problems.  In those cases, it rarely is.  It's an ethical and necessary for a therapist to attempt to explore these issues.  the problem becomes when they unnecessarily fixated on a resolved issue.  In other words, if you dealt with the emotional repercussions of the rape years ago and the therapist does their best to hinder you transition, they probably are coming from a place of bias.  But if the therapist is encouraging you to look at those issues in parallel with GID, it's most likely a good thing.
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rejennyrated

Yes, from the perspective of someone who is now decades past transition and SRS I would like to agree with that on the whole. The only caveat I have is that often once a certain amount of time has elapsed it can be quite unhelpful to try and "go back".

I think that is one reason why most long-term postops like me don't come back to forums like this. They fear being taken back to a time and a place which was traumatic for them. They fear that by coming back they will be admitting that they aren't really women. Perhaps only those of us who have truly faced our demons can do it!

For my own part the rape was thankfully largely a non issue by the time I came to my SRS and something that I had dealt with in my way and time. By then nearly ten years had elapsed between the event. However it would undoubtedly have been a lot better if I had had some counseling at the time. Sadly back then in the 1970's being a trans/intersex child was something that everyone believed that someone would "grow out of". If I had a pound for the number of times that someone said to me in childhood - "oh it's just a phase" then I would be very rich.

Paradoxically the belief that it was just a phase was also one reason why I was allowed to continue with so little obstacle - but that in turn also led to the rape - so it just goes to show that there is an up and a down to everything! And of course... when you finally get therapy - if you are unlucky you end up with someone who isn't any help at all - and actually makes things worse as I did in 1976.

So the bottom line is it is a very difficult thing to make hard and fast rules about, but generally if something like that happens the sooner you can get some help the better!
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spacial

What really bothers me about the therapist types is the way they do connect things.

As strange as it may seem, my previous post in this thread, that's only the third time, ever,  I've ever mentioned that sexual assault.

In the early 80s, there was a notion going around that men who were sexually assaulted as children are more likely to sexually assault children themselves. This was backed, at the time, with a list of convicted child molestors who claimed they had been sexually assaulted as children.

I did and still, take it as offensive in the extreme, the suggestion that I would ever create the consequences for any child, that affected me. (What I really feel about that, sadly, there are no words in the English language to properly describe it),

That notion was quietly pushed to be background some years later. But I recall, when I was nursing, attending a course on sexual abuse, hearing a smart young thing saying she thought there was a connection.

I'm sorry, but as far as I'm concerned they only need to know enough to massage their egos so they will allow you to get the the next stage.

I have personal and professional experiences that, in my opinion, demonstrate that these people are just a bunch of box tickers.

I also believe that a very large number are turned on from hearing sexual details.

We, as a society, made the mistake before, of assuming that it is possible to create a profession of worthies to whom we can grant complete trust. It took a reformation, almost 500 years ago, to get rid of them.

Now we are blindly walking back into the same trap. But this time, without any doctrinal basis.
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cynthialee

As a survivor of childhood sexual abuse I have often wondered this. But then I think on my siblings and neighbors kids when I was a kid and they all were molested and sexualy abused and raped too, I am the only ->-bleeped-<- in the bunch.
Then I think back and the odd feelings of not being right predated my sexual abuse so I have too dismiss this theory.

I do not think that being sexualy victimized as a child is likely to cause transsexualism, the most likely result is sexual hangups and criminal sexual behaviors, not TS/TG.

If you were sexualy abussed as a child it is VITAL that you get help and look for healing. The most likely end result of being sexualy victimized as a child is to pass it on to a younger generation and continueing the cycle. That is not a result you want now is it?

So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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Morgan

I don't believe that sexual abuse has anything to do with feeling you are a boy or a girl  8)
I believe you are who you are, and though your life experiences define you and change you to a point, it does not change who you feel you are.
My sexual abuse from the age of 13-15 only made me want to be stronger. My desire to be male was there well before then, just like my fiance's desire to be female was before her abuse.

My deepest sympathies goes out to everyone who posted in this thread. And my cheeriest congrats for overcoming your hardships and becoming the wonderful people that you all are <3




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kimberlyjoy


this wos one of my frist post with a difront login just happy that part of my life is over.
there has been so much help on here over the years :)


Quote from: kimmie on January 23, 2007, 09:57:12 PM
The reason I ask is because I have had therapists that wanted to spend all my time in counceling talking about me being rape at age of 10 and childhood prostitution that we never got around to my being transsexual. I would hear anyone thoughts
Kim

ps would like your help
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