can I just have a temper-tantrum for a minute here?

[rite_of_inversion]

Back in the 90's when I I.D.'ed as female, but dressed pretty gender-ambiguous, I got made fun of by rednecks often.
(ARE YEW A MAYUN ER A WUMUN???HAR-HAR.)

Now, I'm figuring out that I'm actually androgyne, and so I'm really torn between wanting to be that and knowing exactly what the penalty is for being ambiguous in public.

It's churning around in my brain a lot these days.
I am not happy about this...really I'm not.

So, why does my local TG support group insist I ID as male/male trending or female/female-trending, before allowing me to enroll?
I don't wanna be male or female I wanna be a mixture! GRR!
AND I think it might be EASIER to be one or the other, alright? it's not like I'm doing this just to mess with other people....

My brain's short-circuiting right now... I had one really dreadful depressive attack this weekend, and at the moment I'm only teetering on a little better...(That's just me though, I have those, meds only cover so much...)

(And our old lady cat is really not looking good...as in showing might-have-serious-stomach-problems-like-cancer symptoms...)

but when I'm feeling saner I'll write the local TG board a somewhat less venty email and ask them what's up with their binariness.

[heatherrose]

The half a year or so during which I lived in Portland, Or. I attended several
meetings sponsored by a local LGBT organization. Several meetings I attended
were specifically held for those people dealing with issues of Transsexualism and
others I attended were held addressing general gender ambiguity issues.

Did the meetings that you attended deal specifically with issues concerning transsexualism?

[rite_of_inversion]

Sorry-it's a support forum-online, but I believe with a RL meeting as well. so maybe they are transsexual only?
I'll have to ask them...when not in such a wonked-out mood...
And if so...lovely. 

[Mrs Erocse]

Well I hope you feel better soon. I won't pretend to have answers but I do know crappy days and feelings are no fun at all. I am sorry about your cat.

Extra Big Hugs~

Mrs Erocse

[heatherrose]

I believe a "Transsexual Forum" is not intentionally exclusive of those who identify as "both and or neither".
I do believe it is a forum for those dealing with specific issues to discuss those specific issues.

[Alex201]

Hey, I'm sorry you are having a hard time. I'm glad you feel you can come here and vent your feelings [Like I've been doing]. It's such a relief to know there are others who understand you and want to help.


I know what you mean about the binary thing. Unfortunately society only accepts two gender expressions. I see gender as a spectrum....the two polar opposites being male and female...everyone falls somewhere along that spectrum. Me...I am still trying to figure out where I fall. Somewhere inbetween I think but I do tend to be fluid. So I mostly feel like FtWTF. I present as male but am still questioning because sometimes I feel like both. It's hard to wrap ones head around!


Try not and let it bother you...hold your head high and even if people dont understand, shake it off. We are here for you 100% and there are many people who have and are going through the same situation. Hang in there.


Your brother,


Alex

[Eva Marie]

My brain's short-circuiting right now... I had one really dreadful depressive attack this weekend, and at the moment I'm only teetering on a little better...(That's just me though, I have those, meds only cover so much...)

I'm all too aware of what you described - my brain also short circuits and my head gets "noisy" and it's hard to think. A member here has likened it to bees buzzing in their head (I would give credit but i can't remember who started that thread). And i have also had anxiety attacks when my female side got a little too pushy recently.

I had to take a few weeks away from the online gender sites, and a few weeks away from "her" to allow myself to think clearly once again.

So, you are not alone in having these feelings.

[Lacey Lynne]

Actually, I must agree with Alex.  Of necessity due to circumstances right now, I'm presenting publicly as an androgyne, and know what?  I truly get a kick out of it.  People's reactions span the gamut and can be truly hilarious.  Sometimes, you just have to face the truth.  Truth is, I don't pass well at all.  Face gives me totally away.  Don't need FFS.  Won't help anyway.  It's just the general look.  No way is it female. 

People's innate prejudice makes them inherently somewhat reluctantly tolerant of a butch-looking or masculine-looking girl, but they loath and detest an effeminate guy.  Generally, I present in guy mode these days but androgyne it up.  First, I've got obvious, albeit small, breasts now.  Cannot not see 'em.  Then, I wear gals' shorts in warm weather and black but elevated gals' sandals in cool weather with guy's pants and guy's close-fitting tops.  Melts their minds.

Know what?  I love it.  Heck with 'em.  If you identify as an androgyne, I say, "Go for it!"  What the hell.  Sometimes, you've gotta do what you've gotta do, and what you've gotta do can be awesome.  Works for me.  Think it'll work for you too ... bigtime.  Androgyne away and enjoy yourself.  Personally, I think being an androgyne is a hoot and am into it.  That's way cool if you are too.  Rock on.

   Lacey