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Would you consider yourself stealth?

Started by Nero, July 26, 2009, 04:24:04 PM

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Barring blood relatives, would you consider yourself stealth?

Yes, completely. Nobody knows my past, not even my partner.
6 (6%)
Yes, except for close friends and partner.
20 (20%)
Somewhat, I'm stealth except for work, close friends, and partner.
14 (14%)
No, I'm not stealth.
11 (11%)
Are you kidding? I was born in Ohio/other state that won't change paperwork
3 (3%)
No, I'm out and proud!
8 (8%)
Don't know, don't care.
8 (8%)
Only my partner and doctor know for sure!
8 (8%)
I'm in the middle of transition, not sure.
22 (22%)

Total Members Voted: 59

Cruelladeville

Yep....in the main....

But its mainly that way as peeps assume nowt else....lol
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lilacwoman

Brianna, the ugly duckling transitioned in secret so yes you can.  so long as you never expect to see your family and friends again. 
I suppose it's possible t transition in secret but how would anyone know and treat you as the new person?  Kind of defeats the objective to my way of thinking.

lots of us can point to having definite crossgendered interests and traits as kids so our transitioning wasn't such a shock.

on the other hand if you are terrified of telling them then you need to give yourself some affirmation that transition is for you by getting some input from a therapist and trying living as the person you think you are.
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Rosemary

Complete stealth is almost impossible to achieve, i think. There is always a person who knows about you be it family or doctors or friends.
A lot of people know about me, for example my parents and siblings,  some doctors, my boss and of course my man. Yet i still consider myself stealth because of they way I present myself to the world. Nobody needs to know unless i think necessary. Otherwise it will only cause awkwardness.

Quote from: pretty pauline on July 29, 2009, 04:03:33 PM
I was engaged to my BF, but this is now off for the moment till he gets his mind together since I came out to him a few months ago, sometimes I regret I tolded him Im trans, well now at least he knows,

You are still together and he considers the situation instead of acting on emotions. That is in all honesty a good thing and a sign of his love for you.
Please let us know how this develops, i am very curious and a bit of a sucker for love stories.
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rejennyrated

Kind of similar to Cruella actually.

I just don't advertise - and people simply take me at face value - so I certainly don't bother to tell them any different. It's probably a bit different for the likes of Cruella, Alison and I  though cos we have all been postop for so long that some people have even forgotten about it.

I suppose I'm not strictly in stealth in that I would tell someone if I genuinely thought it would be helpful or relevant, and indeed it is kind of admitted to tacitly on my website if you know where to look.

But all of that is very very different from advertising, campaigning and openly proclaiming. I guess I just don't see my personal history as a very important issue one way or the other, although I do try to keep my facebook and other social networking free from any mention of the issue because I do have friends who don't know and I don't want to potentially embarrass them if the don't wish to do so.

So actually I am probably partly at least but really I don't know and I don't care.
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Muffin

For me it depends on how you view transexualism and the word stealth. Because I view transexualism as a medical condition I feel it shouldn't define who I am... so really there is no worry of having someone feel cheated if they find out. To me it's no different to say someone who was born with a birthmark or mole on their face that later they have removed. Should they tell people when they meet someone "hey I have to be completely honest with you, i was born with a birthmark on my face and had it removed". I don't see how it should be treated any different, especially when the media hype it up. In reality it ain't no thing... and most peoples reactions only back that up.
It doesn't define me, I am female and I feel that more often than not people present either male or female as a whole.. and if they present as something else then sure it may come up in conversation. Being "stealth" is not something I actively seek to do it just comes about from me being me.
Of course saying that.... with still being just on this side of the op-fence legally I no doubt get the hairy eyeball when my records show the indescripancy.. but that s only a matter of time.

Some people are cool about it all and tell others without any problem but I guess I worry that due to peoples general misunderstanding of the word transsexualism no doubt from the media and social stigmatism I feel that peoples views can unnecessary change when you tell them. Even when you pass completely as soon as they find out they change and speak to you like you're either a horny drag queen or something worth less than an empty carton of milk. To avoid that risk I just avoid the topic.
If the world praised us and held us up like gods then I would still see it as a medical condition that doesn't really make great conversation fodder. I'm not exactly proud of being born the way I was..but that's just me :P
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GnomeKid

I am what I am.

That includes my past.
What good is a life full of fear that people will "find out"

I've nothing to hide.  I've nothing to shout off the rooftops about, but I still have nothing to hide.
I solemnly swear I am up to no good.

"Oh what a cute little girl, or boy if you grow up and feel thats whats inside you" - Liz Lemon

Happy to be queer!    ;)
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Lacey Lynne

Quote from: Sandy on July 27, 2009, 02:03:49 PM
I don't wear a sign around my neck, but I don't hide it either.

In my day to day life, most people do not know.  It was an interesting moment at work when a lunch time conversation turned to a discussion about my transition and one of the people there, who started after I came out, was amazed/flabbergasted/incredulous that I was ever male.

As Julie said, it really isn't something that you can easily slip into a conversation.  If someone asks, I give them a direct answer.  I don't dodge or weave.  I'm not about to give up living one lie to live another. 

So the most appropriate answer is "Out and Proud".  Because I am that.

-Sandy

Thanks, Sandy. 

As I'm about to go full-time in about a week, I plan to be just like Sandy here.  When matters of good sense and personal safety dictate it, I'm inclined to be stealth.  Otherwise, I'm out there.  Our gay sisters and brothers of the 1960s and 1970s blazed the "out and proud" path ultimately with good results, I believe. 

Only by being out will people get accustomed to having us around, familiar with and eventually informed about us.  That's not to say that getting to that point won't be a challenge.  It darned sure will ... a huge one.  All of you on here know very well that lots of folks (sadly) really are just plain bigoted and stupid.  Sorry, but they really are.  That's life.  It won't change.  What to do?  Avoid these types whenever we can. 

Otherwise, get out, get known, get real.   Just my opinion.   
Believe.  Persist.  Arrive.    :D



Julie Vu (Princess Joules) Rocks!  "Hi, Sunshine Sparkle Faces!" she says!
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Muffin

Quote from: Lacey Lynne on October 21, 2010, 11:57:32 PM
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Only by being out will people get accustomed to having us around, familiar with and eventually informed about us.  That's not to say that getting to that point won't be a challenge.  It darned sure will ... a huge one.  All of you on here know very well that lots of folks (sadly) really are just plain bigoted and stupid.  Sorry, but they really are.  That's life.  It won't change.  What to do?  Avoid these types whenever we can. 

Otherwise, get out, get known, get real.   Just my opinion.


This made think of something.... why do people, the general public kick up fuss in the first place?
Is it because they can tell? Do they attack the ones that pass ajnd are stealth or the ones that stand out as something like say a man in a dress?
I've thought before how the general publics view of transsexuals are not of those that are stealth but of those that don't pass. If we all passed would there be as much violence and hate crimes?
When I see those that go "full time" it is a case of wake up one morning and put on guy clothes and then wake up the next morning and put on womans clothes... and go about their life.
I can totally understand how that can be confusing for some people especially compared to those that hold off and like megan stated in her thread, still presenting as a guy yet having everyone think of you as female and actually see the change to womans clothes as a relief more than say a shock!
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K8

Muffin, I think that by and large people get upset with us for two reasons: 1) They don't understand and perhaps think this is a sexual fetish or a rebellion against the social order, and 2) because we don't fit into their view of how the world 'should' be.

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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Muffin

two.... reasons... *writes it down in my journal of important facts and stuff*...thanks! ^_____^
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Tad

Partially? Back home I'm not. Down here at school though I've had everything changed over in the Uni system - so aside from a few friends, and a few counsellors and some faculty members that I had to deal with... stealth at school. Not even out with most of my Queer commmunity friends down here, just with the other trans and a very select few gay/lesbians.. I think 1 in total? Lolz. So for 8 months of my year when I'm living here at Uni I'm basically stealth.
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clairezoey

i want to be like 99% stealh.

only my parent know.

i want to live in society that think i was a hot women. =)))))))))
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Wolf Man

Yes, except for close friends and partner.

I picked this option because it is nearly dead on. Given my SO and close friends from my female life, I am stealth. People don't really know at work, given managers and what not who have access to such info, and I've been stealth at college for nearly a year. I've cut it close a few times at work because of little things with the offsite systems, onsite is all in my name Sebastien with a few exceptions. I do my best to keep any possible give away to my birth sex from others. I am even out to my two sisters, so that helps as well. I am just not out to my sisters' children :P , my parents and my grandma who lives with us.

Maybe someday soon I'll have the balls to let them know.
I'll be there someday, I can go the distance
I will find my way, If I can be strong
I know every mile, Will be worth my while

When I go the distance, I'll be right where I belong
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Natasha

i reserve my definition of "stealth" for people who live their lives passing themselves off as something they are not.  if they feel they're something other than woman, in other words deceptive, lying, malevolent, not really female, then they're "stealth".

so no i'm not "stealth".  i'm female.
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Shang

I'm in the first step of my transition (just look at my signature, lol) and I'm definitely "stealth" in that no one knows I'm male except for the members of the MS Rainbow Alliance. 

Once I transition more or can pass as male, I still won't be "stealth"...I'm never going to be "stealth", but I'm also never going to go around shouting that I'm FtM.
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Jalene E.

I would have to say some what stealth. To make a long story really short I have been told by my best friend that I could be my own sister. So when people inquire as to who I am because I look like some one they new, the old person that I impersonated. I told them that I'm his sister and so far every one believes that, it also helps when my best friend backs me up.

Have a peachy day,

Jalene
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