Hormone Blockers

[Gray]

Hi everyone
I have a few questions about hormone blockers and I figured this would be the best place to ask...

1. Negative side effects, I know that hormone therapy has some bad long term side effects, what does testosterone blockers do?
2. Im a teen, will it even do anything or is it to late?
3. If I were to take them then go off them again would I start developing normally or would this be permanent?

thanks for your time.

[Silver]

1. Sorry idk.
2. Unless you started puberty really early and are already finished, yes it will. I recommend it if you can, a few years seems to make the difference between electrolysis and voice training etc. If you can avoid that hassle it will only benefit you.
3. You would develop normally unless you already had your gonads removed.

[Flan]

1: they may have skeletal development effects, may being the key word
3: yes, puberty would resume where it left off

as far as number 2, yes it will stop puberty in progress.

[Gray]

ok thanks, I am growing body hair (sadly) but no chest hair.

also how would I be able to get it? is it just something I can get at a pharmacy or would I need a prescription?
does it cost much?
(I'm in canada BTW)

[Flan]

androgen blocking meds are rx only as is a Gonadotropin-releasing hormone agonist med (shuts down the gonads for couple months).

the cost out of pocket depends on dispensing pharmacy and location. the grnh agonist is much more expensive due to no generic forms.

[Gray]

so all it does is shut down the testicles? Is that enough to stop testosterone production?
thanks for your help

[Flan]

so all it does is shut down the testicles? Is that enough to stop testosterone production?
thanks for your help

Spironolactone blocks the effects of most testosterone from both testis and adrenals, grnh agonist stops the testies from working but not the adrenals.

[Gray]

Darn, so its more complicated than just shutting down the testicles
Are there any home remedies that do the same?

[Silver]

Well you don't really need to block adrenal hormones. Women have adrenal glands too you know lol. Female testosterone production is 50% from ovaries and 50% from adrenals. So shutting down testicles completely would theoretically put you below biofemale levels.

[Gray]

Ok Ill look into it...
Thanks for your help

[Gray]

Sorry for the bump, I didn't want to start a new thread seeing as this one has already been made.

So I've been reading a bit more on the effects of T blockers, apparently it will cause a lack of energy. I usually am low on energy so Im somewhat frightened by how much this will effect me, is there anything I can do to combat the fatigue?

And what are the chances of developing bone problems latter on? I would rather not harm myself in the long term.


Should I wait until Im completely certain that I want to be androgynes? Whenever I read transexual writings it seems that they wish they had started earlier, the idea of having a male frame and body hair horrifies me but I don't mind male pronouns and don't care if Im treated as a male or female.

What are the negative long term effects of electrolysis? How much would it cost?

Will taking T blockers change my personality?

Sorry for bothering you, thanks again for your time.

[Megan]

Sorry for the bump, I didn't want to start a new thread seeing as this one has already been made.

So I've been reading a bit more on the effects of T blockers, apparently it will cause a lack of energy. I usually am low on energy so Im somewhat frightened by how much this will effect me, is there anything I can do to combat the fatigue?

And what are the chances of developing bone problems latter on? I would rather not harm myself in the long term.


Should I wait until Im completely certain that I want to be androgynes? Whenever I read transexual writings it seems that they wish they had started earlier, the idea of having a male frame and body hair horrifies me but I don't mind male pronouns and don't care if Im treated as a male or female.

What are the negative long term effects of electrolysis? How much would it cost?

Will taking T blockers change my personality?

Sorry for bothering you, thanks again for your time.

I been taking spiro for 6 months

It makes you exhausted and weak, nothing that a little caffeine can't fix.
What part of puberty you are end determines a lot, do you look like a male-male? If so then it won't do much.
electrolysis is expensive without a good job

it won't change it much, at least it didn't for me personality wise.

Expect to drop 10 IQ points for the 1st 3-4 months. I felt like a legit retard, because everything for me was slowed down especially math.

I was walking with a glow, look at my threads/comments in my profile if you need a better idea of day to day life.
especially the ones with the threads with SPIRO in the title

[Gray]

Thank you for your help, I dont think Im ready for the negative repercussions of T blockers quite yet :/

Luckily seems androgynous is easier to pull off than female, Ill look into hair removal options and hope my face doesn't develop very masculinely.

Once again, thanks for your time.

[spacial]

megan.

Your experiences with your intelegence are really interesting.

Has your intelegence returned to its previous levels?

[Megan]

megan.

Your experiences with your intelegence are really interesting.

Has your intelegence returned to its previous levels?

The deal with my intelligence, is that I can be possess by the knowledge if it really gets to me and I can use to my advantage. I can learn concepts quite easily, but if it's boring then it's most likely pointless to even bother me. Let's say I believe I have the competence to do most careers, but if I lack the ambition then I am unsure how long I will carry that view on. Some days I learn faster than other days, and some days I really do feel "dumb". My voice changes with the mood, and how I am at that moment. If I am reading something that takes me an hour one day to even move on pages 1-5, and the next day I look at it, it's completely logical and makes sense and I flip the pages.

Math is weird, let's say either I get it or I do not. There's no in between really. I do not care too much though.

My practical intelligence varies so much, and I believe it comes out of my writings as well. It's like I have three people in me because my thinking, my views, and how I am thinking changes like the minutes on the clock. One person would be the classic dumb person; vulnerable, too trustworthy, and naive as hell. This was so evident the first months of spiro... I just lose track in the conversations, and pretend I know exactly what they are speaking about. Oddly, I am also at my happiest state of mind.

And then I am just a calm centered mind person, which I believe is now. The intelligence is good, but it's not brilliant intelligence in which some days I feel like "omg did I ever thought that".

Loopy.

This is going by the speed of "knowing things"... "getting things" "understanding".

My creativity is beyond weird.... it's like I am in my own world living in the logical world (modern society). I view things so odd sometimes. I think weird. I don't even know what is normal me lol... since I change so much.

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I would say it's normal, with on and off days. But yeah... it's the same I believe.

[spacial]

So, basically Megan, you're like most of us now. 

I know some medicines, especially those which alter body chemistry, can affect emotions and thinking. So called mind altering drugs, of course, but hormones aren't generally labeled as such.

It is appreciated that hormones affect the endocrine system, so some mood changes are to be expected.

I'm pleased that, even though you may have reported it, from your post, you certainly don't seem to have suffered any significant loss of intelegence.

[xxiouxx]

Can the hormones significantly reduce body hair?

I guess you could call me an androgynous..I'm a guy, I don't really have the desire to be 100% woman or crossdress (though I do love wigs, eyeliner and on occasion lipstick haha I just don't care to wear skirts or dresses) but rather just be a really feminine-looking guy..think David Bowie or Brian from Placebo. I guess you can say my main reason for looking into HRT in the first place was to reduce body hair...I'm a fairly hairy guy, and even with electrolysis and stuff I fear the hair will just grow back eventually due to my hormones (I'm noticing more and more little hairs growing in places they never grew before, and I'm way past puberty, I'm 19 now) and also if I could reduce the hair significantly with hormones and then do a bit of electrolysis, well that's less money down the drain...I don't need to be 100% smooth, just less of a wolf and I'm not a masculine guy at all I'm very effeminate so it'd be nice to have a slightly more feminine appearnace. I know impotence is another side-effect, but I don't enjoy sex to begin with and have virtually no sex drive so it wouldn't be much of a loss..and I hear sometimes you might get more hips and butt, which sounds fun to me though I have the body of a stick (I'm 52kg, 5'7) so I don't know if I'd see much of that.

But yeah, not sure where to begin...most people I try and talk to this about look at me like I'm stupid or crazy or just think I should accept what I have been given..but reality is, I am very unhappy with what I see in the mirror, I'm uncomfortable within myself and that amongst other problems have lead me to contemplate pretty dark things that I won't get into detail here..but I just feel feminizing myself a bit would make me much more comfortable in my skin and I feel I'd be somewhat happier. I'm hoping to find people who are more open-minded who would be willing to at least take me through my options in detail in regard sot hormones, pros and cons and all of that without just saying "you can't do that" and leaving it at that. It's frustrating when no one understands or at least the very least willing to sympathize, understand or hear you out.

[rite_of_inversion]

What little I know? once hair is there? it's there, and electrolysis is the only way to get rid of the follicle, once activated. My wife still gets to yank out chin hairs the electrocutioner missed zapping. Ouch.  I shall stick to my tweezers for all my unibrow removal needs.

I understrand waxing damages the hair follicle over time...you might try home waxing...again, ouch, but more economical. Less painful the third time.

You might get hips from hormones... you might end up with a surprisingly large pair of breasts, which you then get to find suits for...I think you can rather expect to feminize like your father's mother, perhaps? but genes are intended to recombine, so it's a dice roll.

Much to everybody's annoyance, including mine, hormones aren't magic wands (and for the FtM's-they don't really grow magic wands, either...well, not as we all would wish them.)