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Starting up a binder comparison chart

Started by Lee, December 11, 2010, 04:25:20 PM

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Wolf

I have the t-kingdom : 1700 long shirt and I am around D size / 34". I got the medium size and it was around £50 (UK here). Came after about 1-2 weeks, and at first I was thrilled... And then a little disappointed. I am large, but for that price I expected a miracle let's be honest :P I'm a student so that kind of ££ is loooads to me, in fact it's the 2nd most expensive thing I've ever bought myself (the first being my DM's which I was and am far more happy with :P).

Anyway I have had it for let's say 8 months now, and the non Velcro side has split stitches at a point, which I should really sew up. I never go out without it on, but the job it does is marginal on me.

Binding:I put it on and try to squish them to the sides, where it binds best, but the problem is a very large gap between the boobs where they eventually come back together to create THE MONOBOOB, which is ugly and horrible. When they are to the side I get sideboob which then allows the fabric to dig in underneath my arms and make that area sore. I find I have to adjust the boobs back to the side whenever I get the chance, annoying because the shirt must be tucked into trousers.

Rigidity/ Longevity: I find that below the boobs, the compression fabric flips up due to bending which is uncomfortable (the binder has now many dents in it from places where I bend and it has 'memorized' that, and will not go back to being nice and flat. When it's off me it has many folds and bumps in it that do not go away with washing). It has also discoloured to be a bit grey/ yellow in some places which again does not go away with washing... I am loathe to wash it since the mediocre job it does will only become more mediocre. On several occasions, when I have been out, the Velcro has just given up and the whole thing has come undone- MOST annoying and embarrassing. This is the only size for me, if it were any bigger it would just not bind, and I would not fit in it if it were any smaller.

Comfort: At first I thought it felt like a long hug, but now after just an hour I find that my back aches, my ribs ache (the compression fabric encompasses the ribs and you cannot breathe fully), after I eat I get reflux (I have acid reflux so this is not inherent in the item, I assume) and as stated, I cannot run very well or strain myself because fluid will build up in the lungs where you cannot breath properly- also the original discomfort only doubles when doing this. I have had to sleep in it on occasion... Sometimes for more than one day at a time, I suppose only lending to it's lack of binding. But those were the most uncomfortable nights ever and when I could finally get it off it felt like heaven... I just can't let them be 'free' so it's binder or my crappy 'home' bra.

Overall: For large sizes, this is mediocre at best. For someone smaller than me, C and below, or under 34" I am almost 100% sure this would work a charm (but probably still be uncomfortable). As it is, size D and 34" there is just nowhere for them to go within the item where they will stay until they reach monoboob...  It's the friend I hate but have to go out with all the time :(

When my birthday comes up I will be searching for an Underworks binder and hopefully something better... It makes me very upset that my binder does not really work and often stops me from going out because I just don't feel like wearing it and going through with the discomfort.
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ty.to.the.man

Quote from: andrewtheman77 on February 25, 2011, 10:32:32 PM
im about 28 or 29 inches. so i think like an A or B in bra sizes. idk ive nevr had a bra.
correction: across im 29, above im 30 and below im like 28 or 27 all in inches.
-- Alexander Tyler (call me Tyler though)   8)
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marte

Quote from: artur on February 26, 2011, 08:33:44 PM
Size: 36 D
I have two binders from Love Boat: the Super Strenght Velcro Binder and the High Performance Velcro Binder. I typically wear both of them.

Super Strenght Velcro Binder (size XL)
This one is the best for me, very comfortable and nice results. Although the size is alright, I went ahead and added some more velcro tape for extra tightness, sacrificing some comfort and breathing ability for better flatness.
It's made of a strong, thick material, and although it allows for fairly good ventilation, during a hot day it makes me sweat a lot.

High Performance Velcro Binder (size 2XL)
Although this one is said to give better flatness than the Super Strength, I find that my chest is a lot flatter with the Super Strength. This binder is made of a lighter material that allows for better ventilation and it looks really nice, it's very comfortable. The size is good but again, I will be adding some additional velcro stick tape.
For best results I wear it under my Super Strength Binder. I believe it makes me as flat as I can get, being a D cup.

Both of these binders stretch throughout the day... I usually make a couple of stops at the restroom to adjust them everyday.
I will try to add pictures when I can.
adding some pics as promised...

left: without binder or bra, right: 2 binders on as indicated above.
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ty.to.the.man

artur: have u tried only 1 binder? because binding too hard can cause many damages including not being able to hav chest surgery wen its time.
-- Alexander Tyler (call me Tyler though)   8)
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Darrin Scott

This. A lot of guys seem to wear 2-3 binders. Especially if they're bigger. I wear one XL tri-top and while I wish it bound better, I don't know if I could handle 2. I seem to pass ok if someone sees me from far away.





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ty.to.the.man

i think artur mite b ok with only 1 binder cause his chest doesnt look too big without any binders my its not my body so i dunno.
-- Alexander Tyler (call me Tyler though)   8)
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marte

you can really tell i have chest if i wear only one binder... but ive been a bit worried since my breast has been hurting where I tie the velcro. i'll be cutting back to 1 binder for a while because the thought of not being able to have top surgery is unbearable. thanks...
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Nikolai_S

Quote from: andrewtheman77 on March 16, 2011, 07:11:06 PM
artur: have u tried only 1 binder? because binding too hard can cause many damages including not being able to hav chest surgery wen its time.

You can still have top surgery, you just might have to go with double incision rather than keyhole and/or it might not look as good. Bigger concern is what it does to your lungs/ribs, especially if you're young. It can do irreparable medical damage. Try to minimise the time you double bind at least.

I'd suggest trying a different binder, actually, if one binder from Love Boat doesn't do well for you. Something that stretches throughout the day doesn't seem ideal.  :-\

Also, news on the tri-top: I just ordered an additional, and the new one binds slightly less tightly, even though it's brand new. But I don't get the issue with the neckline sticking out, and I can get it over my head, unlike the old version. This is consistent with inconsistencies I've read about, including on the length of the tri-top. I think Underworks has two different versions circulating and doesn't identify them.
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Nygeel

T-kingdom 1700 long shirt: These are pictures from within the first week of getting it.
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IMG 3
There were rips maybe the first day or two after getting it. The seam is almost ready to give. The binder does not bind my chest at all. The binding material is not large enough to cover my whole chest. The straps are too long for my body so the binding material always rests underneath where it should be.
Binding on me
It's less comfortable than a sports bra and does less work. I think it might work on a smaller guy. My binder was ordered 3 sizes too small according to their chart but I could easily close the velcro to the tightest. I give it a D- or an F.

Underworks 997:
Binding on me
Negatives: The armpit holes are too big. The neck is cut a little too low for my liking. The material isn't great if you sweat a lot. It rolls at my hip/under my muffin top.
Pros: It binds pretty well. It covers my entire chest. Moderately comfortable. It binds my massive hips. It creates a smooth line from chest to belly, fills in the gaps.

This is my favorite binder of the ones I own. I give it a B+

Underworks tri-top:
Binding on me
Negatives: rolls up in a more uncomfortable spot than the 997. I can't bind down and out because it isn't long enough. There's a gap in the front between my body and the binder. VERY hard to get on. Material is same as 997 so all of the material issues are the same. Very uncomfortable.
Pros: It binds pretty well. Armpit holes are about the right size.

This is a binder I usually don't use. The drawbacks and it overall not fitting is enough for me to not wear it. I give it a C

Measurements:
Hips: 46
Waist: 34
Under bust: 35
Over widest part of chest: 44
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Darrin Scott

Quote from: Nikolai_S on March 20, 2011, 01:00:50 AMAlso, news on the tri-top: I just ordered an additional, and the new one binds slightly less tightly, even though it's brand new. But I don't get the issue with the neckline sticking out, and I can get it over my head, unlike the old version. This is consistent with inconsistencies I've read about, including on the length of the tri-top. I think Underworks has two different versions circulating and doesn't identify them.

Is this a newer version of the tri top? If so, when did it come out? I bought one in January and the neck line ALWAYS sticks out!





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Nikolai_S

Quote from: Fumbling Towards Ecstasy on March 20, 2011, 04:06:15 PM
Is this a newer version of the tri top? If so, when did it come out? I bought one in January and the neck line ALWAYS sticks out!

I don't know if it's new, or old, or an anomaly, because I heard reviews of the inconsistency last year, spring/summer, and got my first summer/fall. I actually ordered two this time, and one is the old/first type (let's call it type a) and the second is the odd one out (type b). Type b is black and a is white, but I don't know why that would make a difference, and even with my eyes closed I can tell. B is much stretchier, almost like a sports bra. The part that doesn't actively bind just hangs there, rather than binding my stomach as well. The fabric doesn't feel as coarse and dense. But honestly, I prefer type a because it binds better. 2-3 cm difference in binding power, based on how much further I can push in my chest when they're on.... and it sounds tiny but it makes a difference to me. Type b is better for long term wear because it doesn't feel as stiff or constricting.

It's utterly bizarre. Maybe they're gradually introducing a new style? Or maybe two separate factories have inconsistencies? I don't know how else to explain it.
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ty.to.the.man

my trans frend has another trans frend hoo is workin on makin sum binders wit bettr materials and more comfortable and hes tryin 2 not make it hurt yur chest as much. hes gunna give me sum 4 free wen he makes them. so ill keep you guys posted.
-- Alexander Tyler (call me Tyler though)   8)
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riccirules

Man, I just tried my new Underworks 997, and I can't get flat worth a thing.
I just have too much chest.
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Brent123

So It seems like people like the tri-top? I was considering getting one.
Every day brings me one step closer to being myself.
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Lee

That's what I have, and I have some issues with it.  It binds well on the bottom, but it's loose on top, making it like a push up bra  ::) I'm going to try a les loveboat one soon.
Oh I'm a lucky man to count on both hands the ones I love

A blah blog
http://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/board,365.0.html
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Brent123

Ah I see. I have the long tank top looking one. I like it flatness wise, but its super uncomfortable. I guess I'd want a shorter version of that xD.
Every day brings me one step closer to being myself.
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Nygeel

I've concluded I can only have binders that are full length and bind everything. Blasted hips are wider than my shoulders!
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Brent123

I guess I'm lucky in that department. Clothes normally hide my hips. My brother said I shouldn't worry about it too much because his hips look similar to mine. I've never noticed it before xD.

But yeah. The full length binders (or at least the one from underworks) binds too much in my stomach. It hurts to eat with it on. So I'm looking for one that binds just as well but isn't as long.
Every day brings me one step closer to being myself.
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marte

Quote from: Nikolai_S on March 20, 2011, 01:00:50 AM
I'd suggest trying a different binder, actually, if one binder from Love Boat doesn't do well for you. Something that stretches throughout the day doesn't seem ideal.  :-\
Just wanted to clear Love Boat's shop's name here! Despite my complaining, my flimsiest Love Boat binder binds way better than my underworks one, and if you can invest in a Love Boat binder I highly recommend you do for better comfort and binding. For smaller chests it probably wouldn't be necessary, just more comfortable.

I'm back to wearing 2 binders, but a bit looser. It actually binds better if I don't tighten it as much, and I'm not feeling any pain or discomfort anymore.
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ty.to.the.man

i think if u hav a small chest the underworks binders work perfectly fine, not a big deal for me tho because i cud bind wit 2 sports bras if i wanted 2 but people feel my back and ask me what i am wearing when i wear sports bra's.
-- Alexander Tyler (call me Tyler though)   8)
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