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Started by Eosophoros, July 12, 2010, 08:58:04 PM

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Eosophoros

Okay, I realize that I might be about... eighty years late, but I think this man is incredible. The site was recommended to me by a friend who I usually share my philosophical ramblings with; he's gonna be in Japan for the next three weeks, so we won't be talking as much if at all. In any case, I find that his opinions work really well for me, and I thought some of you might feel the same.
It's http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/, if you're at all interested. The articles are short, numerous and require a lot of thought to get through, at least for me - usually I'm a pretty fast reader. Go forth, read, enjoy, detest, discuss, deride, derail the thread into a comment war about jelly versus jam. (Actually... please don't?)
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lisagurl

QuoteHe explained with great precision the subtle workings of the human mind, and pointed to the need for bringing to our daily life a deeply meditative and spiritual quality.

Nothing new about Buddhism.
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Protasekretis

Quote from: Eosophoros on July 12, 2010, 08:58:04 PMThe articles are short, numerous and require a lot of thought to get through, at least for me - usually I'm a pretty fast reader. Go forth, read, enjoy, detest, discuss, deride, derail the thread into a comment war about jelly versus jam. (Actually... please don't?)

Don't become too fast, because in the end, the speed will be so high, that you may not see anything any more. No wars, because wars come from ego, and machoistic mind. I just tell the truth, and will argue no more. Honestly, I have read much about Krishnamurti, and I feel he was just power-oriented egoistic fellow, who loved to deceive people with words. He was trained by the Theosophists, to become sort of superman-messiah.

He suffered a tragic childhood, and probably developed lifelong traumas. His father, friends at school and teachers beat him up regularly. Later, he rebelled against theosophy. I don't know what his "process" was all about, but suspect he had psychosomatic problems, and he mistook these as spiritual enlightenment. After that, he went into sort of all enveloping nihilism, denying every authority figure, I think this may be classic case of failed oedipal struggle. He behaved in blatant disrespectful fashion. He was into sports, had short patience, so he was neurologically on far on the active side, possibly something from ADHD or asperger spectrums. His mind going overdrive, you sense this when reading his texts. This people often mistake as intelligence.

He seems to have taught celibacy, and at same time he had affairs with women. His way to treat people was harsh, even brutal, perhaps he was avenging to his father. 

"Krishnamurti lacked ordinary human compassion and kindness; he was intolerant, even contemptuous, of those who could not rise to his own high plane "(Vernon, 2001).

"Krishnamurti isolated himself from criticism and feedback, "just like everybody he was criticizing," [Joel] Kramer [co-author of The Guru Papers] said, and had to have "the last word on everything" (Horgan, 1999).

He denied teachers and gurus, but was himself the autocratic monarch. He denied the messiahs but said that he is even greater than Buddha or the Christ. I say this Krihnamurti-fellow and his teachings are dangerous, and it is a pity that so many seekers feel attracted to him.

Sources: Wikipedia,  Stripping the Gurus by Geoffrey D. Falk.CHAPTER V THE KRINSH (JIDDU KRISHNAMURTI)
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VeryGnawty

Looks like typical philosophical babble.
"The cake is a lie."
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justmeinoz

Personally, for me General Semantics, being the application of the scientific method to phiosophy renders all previous philosophical schools obsolete.
Or to put it another way, "typical philosophical babble".
"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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Naari

I think the important thing, in terms of Jiddu and many others can be summed up in the following quote from Jiddu's biography:

"for nearly sixty years until his death on 17 February 1986, he travelled throughout the world talking to large audiences and to individuals about the need for a radical change in mankind"

Regardless of what anyone says of Jiddu's teachings, he was not apathetic to the state of the world.

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