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Started by envie, December 26, 2010, 01:50:22 PM

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envie

Hello all,

I am still new to the Susan's place. I will introduce myself in order to describe my current challenges.

I came out as transgender 5 years ago. At first there was not much reaction from my spouse as she is open minded, knew about my cross dressing tendencies and even supported it. But when I started using different name and working on my vocal exercises all the hell broke loose. It took us a year to sort things out and she came around and turned to be very supportive. Then we tried to conceive a child for another year before I start messing with hormones. After that did not work we made plans for our lives including my transition. Just before I went on with LHR the surprise struck and she stayed pregnant. What followed was all the focus on her pregnancy and care for our baby. I became main bread winner and put my needs on hold. So after 2 and a half years it felt that I could start taking care about myself and we together made plans.
The things started to look really good for everybody. My transition brought us closer than ever. I got on HRT recently and have scheduled the LHR for next week.
The HRT did wonder for me. I am mentally so stable that our lives improved even more. I am transitioning at work and have pretty much all the support  I could ask for.
Now the new challenges have come from a place I did not expect to come any more. My fet started redistributing itself and my breast started to grow. I started feeling very excited about the physical changes and also have a different feelings towards men. At the same time my partner is freaked about my breast growth. She is straight woman and finds this latest development very challenging. At the same time I feel the need to be desired for my new developing body.
Basically we have over time become unbelievable good friends and partners but the physical relationship is suffering. But we don't lack tenderness with each other as there is still a lot of hugging and kissing. Having a toddler makes sexual relationship already challenging as one of us is always busy or tired with our child's needs. And now my development comes on top of it.
The weirdest  and most stressful part is that we still get incredible well along and she is still supportive but we seem to be loosing each other as sexually/physically  desirable partners. It feels like she spent all this time helping me to learn how to fly and now I am ready to spread my wings and take off. I feel so sad for both of us as well as tremendous amount of gilt.
I don't want us to loose each other but I feel I have to look into this as a possibility and be prepared what to do in case the things do go down that road or try to somehow prevent it. But then again you can't straightened out a homosexual person so I don't expect to turn a straight person into a homosexual.
I am hoping that this is just a phase but it feels somehow rather a long coming/lasting development.

I felt I just needed to share my situation. if there are other folks who went through similar situations and have some insight they want to share please do so.
thank you for listening
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spacial

Hi envie.

My wife and I seem to be in a similar situation, though we've been married almost 30 years and I haven't transisioned as far as you.

But like you, our sex life wasn't somthing that was making either of us happy, So we stopped, about 20 years ago and became celebate.

Every day since, (almost) has been just a little better than the last. I can't say it will work for everyone, but giving up sex has made us both feel great.
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envie

hi spacial,

thanks for your reply!
I don't mean so much the sex life itself but the feeling of a desire or excitement for ones physical appearance.
My libido is next to gone after I got on HRT so my Idea of the physical desire is a bit different from before. I still love and enjoy my partners body. I enjoy to be sensual with her and would like to get the same response back. But my physical development is not exactly what excites her even in not so sexual way per say. I am miles away from the traditional way of sex between a man and a woman, but that is still how she relates to me.

I'm glad it worked out for you two!
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spacial

Thank you envie

What I'm suggesting is you put sex behind you. You explore yourself and your persona within your marriage.

For me, and I think us, it was an easy decision. Lonliness sucks, we're best friends and the alternative is not good.

I understand that you want to explore the power of your new appearance. But ask yourself, what are your priorities?

To look at it another way. Imagine you were still prtending to be a man and you got a nre haircut and a new suit. Would that mean you would want to see how much of a hit is is with the ladies?

For me, marriage is my committment. It's also my absolute pleasure. My marriage comes first.

I'm putting this to suggest you see how well this fits into your own life.
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envie

I understand your suggestion and that is how we've been living.
Marriage is also a commitment for us and that is also why we stayed together after my coming out.
We've been together for almost 10 years and I am out for past 5.
The shock for me is that I am observing how in a way I am loosing my spouse and gaining a sort of sister. This looks from her perspective the same way.
I guess for us this is very new situation that we are trying to cope with.

I sure am glad to hear from you that the life together in celibacy is not just possible but also satisfying.

thanks!
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spacial

Quote from: envie on December 26, 2010, 03:18:17 PM
The shock for me is that I am observing how in a way I am loosing my spouse and gaining a sort of sister.

Yeah.  That's it. But remember, you are the little sister and always will be.

I'm not kidding either.
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fwagodess

I came out in late 2003 and my wife at the time seemed okay with the change. Another partner I was with seemed to be fine with my gender identity. I already know that I also became a lesbian after "THE BIG SWITCH TO AVA" began.

Now that I am seeking someone new on a dating web site (and I will still will be with biological women), and this has been bothering me for over 15 years if I ask a woman out, she will probably say "no."

On my YouTube documentary, I will also talk about partners.

Quote from: envie on December 26, 2010, 03:18:17 PM
I understand your suggestion and that is how we've been living.
Marriage is also a commitment for us and that is also why we stayed together after my coming out.
We've been together for almost 10 years and I am out for past 5.
The shock for me is that I am observing how in a way I am loosing my spouse and gaining a sort of sister. This looks from her perspective the same way.
I guess for us this is very new situation that we are trying to cope with.

I sure am glad to hear from you that the life together in celibacy is not just possible but also satisfying.

thanks!

For me, I see things differently, marriage (aka domestic partnership) is my number one commitment.  My name, gender identity, and sexual orientation (still biologically straight) may have changed, but it really has not changed a commitment to a prospective spouse.
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Colleen Ireland

I guess my case is somewhat different.  My wife first became aware of my "condition" when we were married almost 2 years and I attempted suicide.  After that, we talked about it, but I was still terrified of the implications and all too willing to try to run from it, so we managed to bury it, and I spent the next 30 years in denial while we raised 3 kids.  Earlier this year, after yet another attempt to resolve the long-standing marital issues between us, I realized that my trans status was still an issue for me (thought it was dead and buried long ago), and decided in order to have any chance at real happiness and intimacy I had to face it once and for all.

Since that time, as I've progressed towards transition, my wife grows more distant, and we are now the very definition of "estranged".  I see the writing on the wall.  She is straight, and cannot be attracted to a woman, and cannot be married to one, and asking her to be something she's not would be just as unfair as asking me to be something I'm not.  So we will very likely go our separate ways in the not-too-distant future.  I see little hope of finding any reason to stay together.  The kids are grown, and we have increasingly little in common. 

From her perspective, the marriage always worked well, she was getting what she needed from it, and felt safe and secure.  She was married to a man she loved, and felt her life was fulfilled.

From my perspective, because I could never share myself fully, I could never experience true intimacy, which is the one thing I need and crave.  We've always had real problems in the bedroom, and I had always blamed that on her, but realized recently it was mainly due to my own difficulties with dysphoria.


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GinaDouglas

Envie,

It sounds like you have a mature understanding of the unique aspects of your relationship, and can make good decisions based on that understanding.  You need to figure it out for yourself.  Use your head, listen to your heart, hope for the best and consider how you would feel in some worst-case scenarios.  You'll make the best of it.
It's easier to change your sex and gender in Iran, than it is in the United States.  Way easier.

Please read my novel, Dragonfly and the Pack of Three, available on Amazon - and encourage your local library to buy it too! We need realistic portrayals of trans people in literature, for all our sakes
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