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->-bleeped-<- is rebellion against God

Started by Shana A, January 01, 2011, 08:10:25 AM

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rite_of_inversion

Come to the dark side...we have communion wafers?

I'm kind of an ill-defined polytheist...thus I can easily explain why the world is so messed up-it was a committee design...
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CaitJ

Quote from: rite_of_inversion on January 04, 2011, 08:43:05 PM
I'm kind of an ill-defined polytheist...thus I can easily explain why the world is so messed up-it was a committee design...

I've always been fond of pantheons; they're so much more imperfect and human than omnipotent dictators - and if you're not a farmer or a warrior you don't have to tithe to the gods you don't need  :D
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Ashley Allison

Yea so.... It sounds like there is a good discussion going on with this news item thread; decided I will give my belief.  My belief? I don't believe in this god... In fact, I don't believe in any god, because I don't believe a god exists. How in the world can a god, in which people are made in his image, feel ill will against transgender people? Obviously, this god is not omnipotent, and can not realize that people are made (i.e. born) this way.  And even if he did realize it, why would he or she be pissed and angered over people being trans? Is being trans somehow an all out afront against his master plan? Seems like this god would have bigger issues to deal with... Of course, I don't believe any god/ gods exist.  These people are just justifying their beliefs/ faith to possess some common enemy (trans people) they can fight against and demonize.  Which is pointless, we as a community want good will towards others (i think it is a fair generalization).  The conservative, orthodox Christian faith is merely try turn us into a scapegoat for their own self-produced ills :/ Sorry, too much bluntness, but it is what I think!
Fly this girl as high as you can
Into the wild blue
Set me free
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V M

Quote from: Julie Marie on January 01, 2011, 10:58:18 AM
Anytime someone goes to the Bible to prove a point or to tell someone how to live I get these nagging question popping up in my head:

Why is it that God chose between (about) 1700BC and (about) 150AD to communicate with man and divinely inspire him to write the word of God? 

What is about that time that was so special? 

Didn't God speak to us before?

Hasn't God spoken to us since? 

God only likes cavemen?
Quote from: tekla on January 04, 2011, 06:13:20 PM
Actually Jesus wore a dress, the pope too.
Not only does the Pope wear a dress, what about that cute hate and those shoes? Those outfits they wear at the Vatican just scream "I'm so special"
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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Julie Marie

Quote from: tekla on January 04, 2011, 06:13:20 PM
Actually Jesus wore a dress, the pope too.

You mean "vestments of power"?  (Bruno Battaglia - The Dress Code fka Bruno)
When you judge others, you do not define them, you define yourself.
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Christy Edwards

I know that everyone has an opinion on this matter. For me, I do know there's a God. A God of Grace,Mercy,Love and I am so thankful for His Understanding. If it wasnt for my trust in all of this, I couldnt make it. I dont feel I am rebelling against Him at all.
There can be alot of concern on this, But I know He's an awesome God....And He loves me more now than ever!
Thanks for letting me share :)
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Squirrel698

Galatians 3:28 (New International Version)

28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

This is just going to be my standard response from now on.
"It matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll, I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul"
Invictus - William Ernest Henley
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Mrs Erocse

I am not religious but my wonderful brother told me that the only job a christian has is to, "Love one another as God has loved you." He also said that God says,  "Judge not, lest ye be judged." So all of the Christians out there judging and condemning are breaking God's rules.

He also told me that my lovely spouse has been a very good person all of her life and he loved her before and will continue to love her.

Because Roxy's brothers and sisters are hypocritical, biggoted, horrible people using religion to condone thier biggotry (with the exception of her oldest brother R who is wonderful too) I appreciated my brothers religious view. I thought that he Must be a VERY TRUE CHRISTIAN if ever there was one. :)
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Mrs Erocse

Quote from: Squirrel698 on January 05, 2011, 11:37:34 AM
Galatians 3:28 (New International Version)

28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

This is just going to be my standard response from now on.

Thank you for that. :)
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Debra

Quote from: Mrs Erocse on January 05, 2011, 11:50:31 AM
I am not religious but my wonderful brother told me that the only job a christian has is to, "Love one another as God has loved you." He also said that God says,  "Judge not, lest ye be judged." So all of the Christians out there judging and condemning are breaking God's rules.

He also told me that my lovely spouse has been a very good person all of her life and he loved her before and will continue to love her.

Because Roxy's brothers and sisters are hypocritical, biggoted, horrible people using religion to condone thier biggotry (with the exception of her oldest brother R who is wonderful too) I appreciated my brothers religious view. I thought that he Must be a VERY TRUE CHRISTIAN if ever there was one. :)

Thanks for sharing, this is the most wonderful attitude. I have many christian friends that have this attitude but sadly not my parents, of course.

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Christy Edwards

I agree Patty...I do consider myself religious, and I will use that verse as well... :)
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V M

I'm not particularly religious but I do respect other people's beliefs

It's when people use religion as a tool to meet out their own bigoted notions or hide behind it while carrying out their own evil deeds that bothers me and don't get me started on the folks that use it for financial gain and/or power trip

There is a big difference between those who practice their religion and those who abuse it
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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CaitJ

Quote from: Squirrel698 on January 05, 2011, 11:37:34 AM
Galatians 3:28 (New International Version)

28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

This is just going to be my standard response from now on.

Smart lad. That's the very passage I keep bringing up but had no luck finding the exact quote :D
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Mrs Erocse

I took the liberty of looking up that scripture. In it's entire context it is very interesting. It is revealing that christians are no longer the old covenent or the hebrew law.

Galatians 3: 23
23 Before the coming of this faith,[j] we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.
26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

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tekla

Do you remember when you found out that the whole Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny stuff was just a huge fib made up by your parents to make you behave in a certain way?






You should have rethought the entire Jesus deal that that point too.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Double_Rainbow

Meh, I don't really believe in all that stuff.  If some crazy eye-balled priest wants to spout verses or accusations at me then I'll start chasing after him and give him something to be REALLY scared of!   :o
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japple

In human history we've come up with about 2870 deities.   Belief in a particular one comes from when and where you were born.  Humans are mostly atheist.  Most people don't believe in more gods than they do.  If you only believe in the Christian God you're don't believe in 2869 gods, almost as many as me!
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CaitJ

"->-bleeped-<- is rebellion against God"

God is a rebellion against Reason.
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Dana Lane

Quote from: Jerica on January 04, 2011, 05:30:47 PM
God. I guess cuz I'm not around my parents or in a different part of the country, I forget that there are still people who believe this kind of crap.

This is my response: http://www.transchristians.org/book/book-objections

It is still cherry picking from the bible to support a personal opinion.

As previously stated there are the stone your children to death for talking back, killing your neighbor if they work on the sabbath...on and on. I find it amazing that people know these atrocious evil things are in the bible but just skip over it and grab something that appeals to them.

It is either the word of god or it is not the word of god.
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Dana Lane

Quote from: tekla on January 06, 2011, 01:21:20 AM
Do you remember when you found out that the whole Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny stuff was just a huge fib made up by your parents to make you behave in a certain way?






You should have rethought the entire Jesus deal that that point too.

Exactly!

But adults don't believe in the tooth fairy, etc. However, religious adults do believe a god exists so if a child has been brainwashed it is harder to wake the child up from it. I was a believer until about 15 years ago where I was in a 'born again' mode, carrying a bible around and reading it, listening to the bible on cassette and all of a sudden in one instant I snapped out of it. Angry god, jealous god...all the killing..rape...incest..on and on..hit me at once. And at that point I felt enlightened and guilt free. It was awesome.
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Former TS Separatist who feels deep regret
http://www.transadvocate.com/category/dana-taylor
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