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Transsexuals and the phantom penis

Started by Natasha, January 22, 2011, 02:27:12 AM

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Natasha

Transsexuals and the phantom penis

http://aebrain.blogspot.com/2011/01/transsexuals-and-phantom-penis.html
1/20/11

Further to my previous post of a few days ago, the transcript of an ABC Science Show program from 2007 on the subject : Transsexuals and the phantom penis - Science Show - 3 March 2007

    But it is curious that most normal people who have carcinoma of the penis, which is not rare, and they have an amputation of the penis as a life saving measure, a majority of them, maybe about 80%, 85% of them, experience a phantom penis, including phantom erections. This is well known. Since this chap is saying his penis doesn't belong to him in the first place, what if his penis is amputated because he wants to become a woman, what happens then?
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VeryGnawty

I have a penis, but sometimes I experience a phantom vagina sensation as though it is possible for me to be penetrated (even though this is obviously not possible)
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LivingInGrey

it's no surprise to see something like this. I've commented several times about the feeling of phantom breasts. It doesn't surprise me that females would have the feeling of a phantom penis all the way down to 'hangs a little to the left'.

one of the comments to that blog though makes me wonder. One of the main reasons doctors in the past had described the phantom limb theory was the fact that the nerve endings for the limb are all of a sudden removed (more like shortened, the nerves go from the limb all the way up the limb into the spine) and that's what causes the 'feeling' of the phantom limb. But with a transsexual the nerve endings aren't ever 'removed' lets say for my phantom breasts. They aren't actually even there yet. I'd have to look into it more but I think one of the properties of Estrogen in a previously male body is the development of breast tissue and any actual mammary glands (along with nerve endings to run the glands).   


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after looking it up real quick, it seems like both boys and girls (pre-pubescent) have the same make-up of breast tissue in their chest, it's only after puberty that the girls will develop breasts (from the hormones becoming active) and normally (as explained further down in the web page I'll link) the boys will not. So the nerve endings (I'm assuming) are there for boys also, just not developed.

QuoteUntil puberty (usually around 13 or 14), young boys and girls have a small amount of breast tissue consisting of a few ducts located under the nipple and areola (area around the nipple). At puberty, a girl's ovaries make female hormones, causing breast ducts to grow, lobules to form at the ends of ducts, and the amount of stroma to increase. In boys, hormones made by the testicles keep breast tissue from growing much. Men's breast tissue has ducts, but only a few if any lobules.

http://www.cancer.org/cancer/breastcancerinmen/detailedguide/breast-cancer-in-men-what-is-breast-cancer-in-men
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