Some Gays really do not like us.

[CaitJ]

And you wonder why we arent friends   

I do? Since when?

[Janet_Girl]

Ladies, lets just drop it please.

[KillBelle]

I do? Since when?

*yawn* i really do not have time for this. i need to get my nails done.

[CaitJ]

i need to get my nails done.

Me too!
I'm gonna do them with this:

Though I'm into the whole rainbow thing lately, so contemplating doing them all metallic primary colours (from OPI of course).

[KillBelle]

Rainbow colors are a little tacky to be honest... 

[Janet_Girl]

Rainbow colors are a little tacky to be honest... 

Some of us like them.  If it isn't your thing, that's cool.  If it is that is cool too.  To each their own.

[KillBelle]

Some of us like them.  If it isn't your thing, that's cool.  If it is that is cool too.  To each their own.

I know, it was just my opinion sorry... i think it would look lovely on Cait. <3

[CaitJ]

Rainbow colors are a little tacky to be honest... 

Only on tacky people 

[KillBelle]

Lmao. word.

[tekla]

Wouldn't Forrest Gump say, "tacky is, as ...."

[n00bsWithBoobs]

The entire issue here is really one, not of rights, but of decorum.  If you wanted to start a mosh pit at a Slayer show, I'd be all like 'more power to you.'  If you wanted to do it at Celtic Thunder or Adam Lambert I'd have to have security 'escort' you from the building.  If you want to wear a set of khaki pants and a colorful rep tie, try the yacht club, if you like your colors on your back stitched on leather with a huge skull and a set of black tipped wings on the front, perhaps the yacht club is not the place for you.

But it does require a basic notion of appropriate social behavior to understand that.

I'm a Computer Science major. My coevals range from mildly socially awkward to functional autistics most of the time, and to many of those kinds of people (i.e. computer nerds), decorum and notions of appropriate social behavior are completely foreign. The problem with the first example you posed was starting a mosh pit outside of a Slayer concert, which is an active, violent, borderline offensive act. You're aggressively interacting with others around you. That isn't even close to what this woman was doing. Secondly, every single person in these forums has been that "colors on your back stitched on leather with a huge skull" person visiting the yacht club in some form or another. That's one of the pitfalls of being transgendered.

I guess all this rhetoric is moot anyway. I feel empathy for the woman in the story and I suppose it really bothers me that there are people even in our community, on this forum, who look down their noses at her.

[KillBelle]

I'm a Computer Science major. My coevals range from mildly socially awkward to functional autistics most of the time, and to many of those kinds of people (i.e. computer nerds), decorum and notions of appropriate social behavior are completely foreign. The problem with the first example you posed was starting a mosh pit outside of a Slayer concert, which is an active, violent, borderline offensive act. You're aggressively interacting with others around you. That isn't even close to what this woman was doing. Secondly, every single person in these forums has been that "colors on your back stitched on leather with a huge skull" person visiting the yacht club in some form or another. That's one of the pitfalls of being transgendered.

I guess all this rhetoric is moot anyway. I feel empathy for the woman in the story and I suppose it really bothers me that there are people even in our community, on this forum, who look down their noses at her.

You probably might have needed to be there to know what i am talking about, she walked into that bar with a LOT of attitude, and wanting to pick fights with everybody. People were looking at her not because she was trans (i think people could care less) but because of the way she was dressed...very inappropriately (her giant DDs with her nipples poking out of the corset). I personally thought it was awesome because i was mesmerized with all the bad plastic surgery haha, but she caught people staring at her and then was telling random people off and mouthing profanity to random gays (this was before the gays at my table said anything to her). I just wanted to sink in my chair and prayed for it to be over.

[CaitJ]

Considering the psychological issues that often go hand-in-hand with being trans, I would be careful to keep my judgements of this woman's motivations to myself, until I had more of a grasp of her personality.
I remember reading in Georgina Beyer's autobiography that she had a put-on attitude and would look for fights with anyone who looked her way, because it was a defensive, pre-emptive mechanism that stopped people messing with '->-bleeped-<-s' as they were known to have bad attitudes.
It always saddens me when one trans woman judges another trans woman in this manner.

[kyril]

Me too!
I'm gonna do them with this:

Though I'm into the whole rainbow thing lately, so contemplating doing them all metallic primary colours (from OPI of course).

ooh the pale translucent ones with a bit of sparkle were always my favourite. I've never worn nail polish in public, but I'm pretty tempted to do it the next time I go out dancing. But then I can't tease my friend about his sparkle lipgloss and finishing powder...sigh.

[Michelle.]

"wanting to pick fights with everyone"

I would have thrown her out right there. You play with fire and you tend to get burned.

[Serra]

. People were looking at her not because she was trans (i think people could care less)

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