Harry Benjamin Syndrom or Intersex?

[Sophie_F]

Dear Melissa.

You wrote:

Re: Harry Benjamin Syndrom or Intersex? « Reply #19 on: Today at 03:17:30 »
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Even though I suspect I am IS, I still only refer to myself as a transsexual and will continue to do so until I can prove that I am IS by tests.  I don't see the link as being a justification for transitioning, because I am going to transition regardless and I feel equally as entitled to either way.

Melissa

I'm afraid you'll have to wait for a loooong time to prove this  

But it was exactly what I did, until I was convinced, in the middle of last year. It was when I, for the first time, read about HBS. I also realized that, it is not yet possible to prove IS by a test, because you'll have the normal XY chromosomes. The Dutch discovery, late in the 90'es, has already convinced me, it was inborn. Do I have to tell, I really believe in HBS?

Another ting is, now we also have a fantastic opportunity, to left that uggly "T" word behind us. Furthermore we now can dissociate us from the theory, som TV's use: "TV and TS are two of a kind."
I never really felt like a TV, but in one week only I believed I was one. It was until a gynaecologist told me the truth. It was the same gynaecologist, who gave me prescription to my first Estrogene pills, late in 2001. 4 years later, I went to Thailand, to affirm my sex.

Today, almost two year after my affirmation, I'm a very happy person, opposite what I was before 2001. And I'm happy to be at woman.

[Melissa]

I'm afraid you'll have to wait for a loooong time to prove this  

But it was exactly what I did, until I was convinced, in the middle of last year. It was when I, for the first time, read about HBS. I also realized that, it is not yet possible to prove IS by a test, because you'll have the normal XY chromosomes. The Dutch discovery, late in the 90'es, has already convinced me, it was inborn. Do I have to tell, I really believe in HBS?

Oh really?  I was under the impression they had current test to test chromosomes and the ability to scan your internal organs.  I was also under the impression a doctor could actually examine genitals.  Why are you so convinced I'm XY?  You haven't seen my genitals.  So I guess it's normal to have a micropenis and scrotal-labia fusing?  Interesting.  I guess that clears everything up.

Melissa

[Sophie_F]

Hi Melissa.

I really doesn't mean it help anyone to be ironical.

Of course doctors can do all those thing, but a person who call herself "transsexual" is very often persons born with a womans brain and a mans body. (Approx 75% MtF or HBS Females) Those will normally also have XY chromosomes.

I will, among others, insist this is a sort of IS. But not as other intersexed people, where the sexual gland and the sexual organs is deformed or malformated.

You are right, I haven't seen your genitals, unless I'm much mistaken, I saw somewhere you already has a SRS/SAS. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Your homepage: http://melissagirl.com, tells nothing about you are ordinary IS

Wrong guess, it's not normal to have a micropenis and scrotal-labia fusing.

[Melissa]

I have not has SRS or SAS yet.  I am only 6 months into my fulltime and it hasn't even been a year that I've been on hormones.  I have been going down the path of a typical TS.  Now I do have several posts on this forum in regards to my "evidence" and you are right in that I never talked about it on my website.  The reason being is I didn't want to jump to conclusions until I had some kind of proof and if my body was quite normal for a male to begin with, I would have no questions about me only being TS.  I don't feel like one or the other is better, other than TS being more common and getting treatment for such seems easier.  Anyhow, I have a doctor appointment on Wednesday and I was going to discuss it with her again (I already had before, but I've discovered more things since).

Melissa

[Jolene4ever]

The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines 'syndrom' as "a group of signs or symtoms that occur together and characterize a particular abnormality."  This is why we have to get rid of the term syndrom. We are NOT abnormal. We have a genetic birth defect that must be corrected and the medical and insurance industries has to acknowlege this. I will also transition any way I can and if I can have the surgery, I will at the drop of a hat. But for the thousands who can't afford the process or are stuck with a hypocritical medical community we have to change this kind of thinking. Love Jolene

[Ericka]

I tend to think that ->-bleeped-<- is more Intersex than not; I too am the oldest son of 3 boys and never had a sister until my Dad remarried when I was about 14 years old.  I had be struggling with my gender issues as long as I can recall, like many of us here.  I was raised as a true outdoorsman and I still enjoy many of the actives today, and any time my dad or step mom discovered my stash of goodies I was beaten, not spanked, beaten from head to toe where ever & what ever my dad could hit.  His thinking was that he was going to beat it out of me, it didn't work & I haven't read anything that has showed me that method does work.  I have read several studies that the opinion of the doctor was that ->-bleeped-<- is a form of Intersex based on the biological make up of our brains.

[tinkerbell]

There is good evidence that what causes transsexuality is developmental differences in the brain that happen pre-natally. ie: we have a male brain and female body (or other way round for the MtF's).

Intersex means having some parts male and some female. What body part is more important than the brain? If the brain is male and the body is female, seems to me you got some body parts male and some female.

Dennis

I agree with Dennis here, there is substantial evidence (see Sophie's link or do a google search) that like intersexuality, transsexualism may be caused by genes; it has not been proven yet, but that does not mean that it cannot be possible.  In fact if you consider many syndromes, conditions of today (i.e, porphyria, cystic fibrosis, Tourette's syndrome, Usher syndrome, some types of colon cancer), you can see that many years ago, the medical community would have laughed at anyone who claimed that these conditions were genetic, well after so much research, it has been found that many conditions and types of syndromes (including the ones mentioned above) are indeed genetic; therefore, I wouldn't be surprised if one of these decades, the "real" causes for TSim surface.

tinkerbell

[Jolene4ever]

Hi Tinkerbell-she was also my favorite-besides the Hook. Nice to meet you.