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Started by Tracey, February 07, 2011, 07:20:01 PM

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Devlyn

Look at the top of my avatar. It says "Veteran, US Army". That means no pass for messing up our national song. My Dad served in Korea, rest his soul, and he won't give you a pass either. I stand and put my hand over my heart for that song, even in my living room. I usually sing along. That's what I was doing Sunday night when the words that come to my lips so naturally no longer matched what I was hearing. Let the service bands play at the big events, not some ignoramus that will mess it up. Phew, had to get that out, Tracey


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rexgsd

Yes, what an idiot she is to mess up the anthem, and how disgraceful and disrespectful. I can only be glad I missed that tragedy. though i had a feeling someone would mess up the anthem during it actually.
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tekla

Yes, what an idiot she is to mess up the anthem, and how disgraceful and disrespectful.

And, I suppose that had you been there in CA place, in front of over 100K people, on world wide television, no band, no set, no nothing, that you would have been perfect?  Or - more likely - you would not have even got the first note out.  My guess is that had that been you there the only thing the TV audience would have got was a yellow stream running down your leg.  If you think what she did was easy, you have no concept of what it was she was asked to do.

BTW, the NATIONAL anthem of the USA, belongs to 'we the people' not 'we the military'.

The people, as in 'we the people' paid for this nation, that anthem belongs to all of us.

And if you think she ->-bleeped-<-ed it up, she's not even in the ballpark - figuratively and literally speaking.

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rexgsd

well i guess everyone's entitled to their own opinions, eh?
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"Girls will be boys, and boys will be girls. Its a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world." - The Kinks

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VeryGnawty

Maybe if she wasn't constantly trying to overstrain her voice in an attempt to make herself sound more talented than she actually is, she might have been able to remember the lyrics.
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tekla

Well here is the deal.

1. It's almost an impossible song to sing, the range required is beyond most vocalists.

2.  (This is critical here) Without a band to give you a key, the natural tendency is to start a couple of notes too high, and when you do that, you run out of range at the top of the song (what so proudly we hailed) and you really butcher it, because the only choice you have at that moment is to go low (flat) and just suck.

3. Jerry Jones wanted Faith Hill to do it.  She refused, and FOX said NO NO NO NO, because she does the theme to some other networks football show.  But the real deal is, she said no, lot of people do, it's a gig from hell.  I'll bet that CA was not the second choice either, or even the third.

I mean there VG, how come they had to go find some LA girl, and couldn't not find one of the several outstanding Texas talents (or even one of the thousands of mediocre Texas talents) to do it.  Because they all said 'no.'  No one in their right mind wants to do that song (Beyoncé excluded, who BTW, rocked it - and that's why she's Beyonce, and the other two girls in Destiny's Child, are who?  Yeah, two other girls, not Beyonce.) on world-wide TV, live, in a stadium, without any accompaniment.

But go for it Rex, let me see how you pull off walking out in front of all of those people, 100,000+, and the cameras, and not let it bother you.  It's remarkably harder than it looks.  It turns out it's not like doing it in your bedroom singing into your hairbrush.  It's like some kid who sits on the bed and shreds the guitar thinking he's Kirk Hammett.  He's not, he's only playing one song, over and over again until he gets it right, while Kirk is doing 2.5 hours of that a night, on cue, at 9, every night of the tour.

I mean it might look easy, but the reason they are multi-millionaires (other than luck) is that it's a lot harder than it looks.
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QuestionMark

Still, at least it wasn't Lee Dewyze who sang the Anthem. :angel:

I do agree that if your singing in the Superbowl you should at least get the lyrics down, but mistakes do happen. I'm sure she's feeling a lot worse about it than anyone else, but maybe that's just me. ???
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Janet_Girl

It wasn't so much she just was off key, it was the fact she messed up the words.  How many years have we been sing this song, at every ball game, hockey game.  We have been taught the words growing up and you can get a copy of the song anywhere.

May be she should have read them.
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V M

People do occasionally get off key singing the National Anthem, and most folks will let it go and look on with appreciation none the less...

But she messed up the lyrics... She is a highly paid "professional" singer... There are
NO GOOD EXCUSES...imo
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tekla

You know that 'monitor' wedge that is projecting in front of your favorite pop singer is probably not audio, it's video, it's a teleprompter because he's so coked out he cant remember the lyrics to the big hit song he wrote.

Or, perhaps, as I assume is the case here, it's very easy to forget the worlds when you're working your butt off to stay in key (something that most people can't do with that song no matter what.)

Perhaps they should have got Rosanne Barr to do it.
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V M

Perhaps they should have got Rosanne Barr to do it
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QuestionMark

Quote from: Virginia Marie on February 07, 2011, 11:12:17 PM
People do occasionally get off key singing the National Anthem, and most folks will let it go and look on with appreciation none the less...

But she messed up the lyrics... She is a highly paid "professional" singer... There are
NO GOOD EXCUSES...imo

For the most part I do agree with you, but on the other hand that's like saying football players should never mess up since they get paid to play the game. However, I do agree that she shouldn't have messed up like that
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rexgsd

LOL! i wish roseanne would do it again, that was friggin hilarious. hey, at least she didn't mess up the words =P
☥fiat justitia ruat coelum☥

"Girls will be boys, and boys will be girls. Its a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world." - The Kinks

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Devlyn

One, I wasn't implying the song belongs to the military. Two, I don't care about key and pitch, just know the words. Three, I performed in front of 25 people during a second grade play............and fainted!
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Gadgett

I also serve in the US Army and had a massive amount of US pride before I went into the serves...

I guess it would have bothered me back then to see someone intentionally butchering it cause I was offended by Roseannes butt-scratch performance but now, I just don't have much to say about stuff like that anymore. :(
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ativan

OK, everybody read the lyrics (how many of you really know them all?), announce to all your friends and neighbors that you will be singing it in the street the next day. Could you do it? if yes, then good. if no, then so what. I'll bet they won't be judging you on how well you did it, but by the fact that you really went ahead and gave it your best shot.

How many people have screwed it up in the past, Pro's and just somebody who decided to give it a try? Come on, what's the ratio of screwing it up to actually getting through it?

I'll give anybody an A+ for even trying. (except Rosanne Barr and those who intentionally screw it up, whether to be funny or not). Professional's make mistakes.

I wonder how many people even catch mistakes when they hear it. I'll bet that you could rewrite it so it sounded similar to the original and a lot of people wouldn't notice the difference when they read it, let alone hearing someone singing it that way. I wonder how many times that's happened, intentionally or not.

Even with a teleprompter, somebody is still going to screw it up. And it is out of the range of most professional singers you know. Even with musicians behind them (who may make a mistake themselves).

The only thing that really sucks is the media making such a big deal about it. And we all know how they never make mistakes.

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Lachlann

I agree wholeheartedly with Tekla.

The lack of empathy for a human error is astounding to me, but I suppose the amount of ignorance about this is not very surprising. There's a lot more involved. Tekla's right, words and pitch can get screwed up very easily by nerves, the band, the equipment, trying to stay in tune, etc... even for big professionals that have been performing their own songs for 20 years! I've seen it happen and I've experienced it as well. Performing isn't easy.

Professional doesn't mean 'inhuman.' Professional doesn't mean they wont screw up, even on the lyrics, even if they rehearse it over and over.

A 2nd grade experience with only 25 people watching still doesn't compare to the magnitude of that crowd. I've performed in front of sizable crowds before, and you'd think that nerves alone would be enough but when the crowd stretches on almost for more than you can see, it's a whole new level and experience. It goes beyond performance anxiety at that point.

So I'm sorry it offends you that someone made a very human error on your national anthem. An anthem that is a really really annoying song to get right. A whole bunch of self-entitled people are already furious with them for an error that shouldn't be as blown out of proportion as it is now.

But then I suppose it's simply just easier to judge people and put them down than to have a shred of empathy.
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V M

I do feel sad for her... That's got to be one of the most embarrassing things to happen to a singer

But still, it's not like goofing on the lyrics of a rock song... No-one's gonna walk away thinking...

"Dude!!! That was a cool version of that one"

I still think she's a great singer though
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spacial

This seems to be a problem for a number of nations. A French person, mispronouncing their words, or worse, speaking English is headed for the guilotine.

The problem, when everyone is expected to achieve such impossible standards, is that few ever will and those that criticise, enevitably can't.

Makes me glad to live in England, where nothing is held to be sacrosanct.

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xAndrewx

Personally when I heard her being made fun of for hours last night on the radio I started to think about it and really... how many people actually know every single word? I did.... when I was still in school. I know every word to the pledge. Bet she does too but how many times do we encounter that song after school?

I agree with Tekla it's a hard song to do let alone sing and get every word right in the exact right order. I'm sure she isn't the first to get it wrong. BTW Tracey this isn't necessarily aimed at you I just wish that everyone would give her a break... She screwed up. Even professional football players drop a ball occasionally everyone messes up sometimes and if it wasn't intentional I don't think it should be held against them.