How to have big NATURAL-LOOKING BOOBS?

[Sad Girl]

I've noticed those some who undergo silicon implants, some their boobs look fake, like you can see they've put like a bowl inside while others have natural-looking boobs with surgery, how do they do that?

[carolinejeo]

Two ways:

1. Get really lucky with HRT

2. Get a really good plastic surgeon

Caroline

[Julie Marie]

There's a very simple way that requires no surgery and no HRT.  All you have to do is be born in the female gender with the right genetics for growing natural looking female breasts.  Outside of that, refer to Caroline's answer.

[Sad Girl]

There's a very simple way that requires no surgery and no HRT.  All you have to do is be born in the female gender with the right genetics for growing natural looking female breasts.  Outside of that, refer to Caroline's answer.

Sorry let me re-phrase: I've noticed those some who undergo silicon implants, some their boobs look fake, like you can see they've put like a bowl inside while others have natural-looking boobs with surgery, how do they do that? (I mean why/how majority look fake while some look natural, how?)

[Carlita]

By complete chance I happened to be reading an article about the trend for having plastic surgery that looks much more natural than the 'too-much-Botox-and-tits-like-grapefruit' look ... and yes, Mrs Beckham, that's YOU we're talking about! It quoted a surgeon as follows ...

'An attractive breast had a balanced proportion between the upper half and lower half. You need a slightly fuller and subtly convex lower half with a nipple that sits slightly skyward. The ideal is a 45 to 55 per cent proportion - ie. that the nipple sits not at the halfway point down the breast, but at about 45 per cent from the top'

Hope that helps!

More info here, I think: http://www.mybreast.org

[JustAnotherDreamer]

There's a very simple way that requires no surgery and no HRT.  All you have to do is be born in the female gender with the right genetics for growing natural looking female breasts.  Outside of that, refer to Caroline's answer.

[Michelle.]

Www.justbreastimplants.com.  Fantastic website with a very active forums section for the long answer.

The short answer is the right combo of implant type. The projection and base width of the implant itself. Also the placement of the implant.

[Julie Marie]

Sorry let me re-phrase: I've noticed those some who undergo silicon implants, some their boobs look fake, like you can see they've put like a bowl inside while others have natural-looking boobs with surgery, how do they do that? (I mean why/how majority look fake while some look natural, how?)

OK, sorry if I came across overly sarcastic but your original question did have all the makings of a fairy tale.

To answer your re-worded question you'd first have to ask the women who have had BA, and who fall into the fake looking category you describe, exactly what their intent was going into BA.  My daughter had a friend who moved to LA just after high school.  I guess that culture infected her.  She is model beautiful but was small chested and so she had BA.  When she came back here to visit, she showed my daughter the results.  My daughter remarked how natural they were to which her friend said she was going back for more because she wanted her boobs to be pushing upward and looking fuller.  How I envisioned your description of fake.  But that's what she wanted.

Another factor is body fat.  Fat softens the look and helps hide the implant.  If you have a very low body fat level the implant will be more obvious, especially if they are large.

When considering BA there are several factors one needs to look at.  In no particular order (and not complete) the list includes proportion to chest width, proportion to chest depth and of course desired outcome (there are several styles of implants).

A natural breast falls off to the side of the chest wall.  A bra brings them together to create cleavage.  If you have a wide chest wall you may not be able to have the implants that far apart or you will never be able to create cleavage, unless you go really big.  But you can ask your surgeon to place them a bit closer, just not too much.

When considering chest depth (front to back), you have to look at how much the breast will protrude when looking from the side.  If you have a deep chest wall, you will probably want a larger size implant or else the breast will get lost and you won't get much of an overall female silhouette.

When it comes to types there are many options:
# Implant fill: saline or silicone
# Implant surface: textured or smooth
# Implant shape: round or teardrop
# Implant profile: low, moderate or high

Cohesive gel seems to be the implant of choice more and more.  It is pre-formed and doesn't rely on the skin or bag for its shape.  And it has a very natural feel.

I have read about fat transfer as an option.  Since a natural breast is mostly fat, it seems to make sense.  The problem with fat transfer (anywhere in the body) is you can lose 50% or more of the fat after the surgery.  Fat cells require a blood supply and if the transferred cells don't reconnect to a blood supply they die off and the body absorbs it. 

Of course if you want to aid in the natural breast look, HRT is a great option.  And honestly, why would one want to have boobs and not want HRT?  Unless of course your doctor has determined HRT would be risky for your health condition.  For people who have a family history of blood clotting most doctors advise against HRT.  But if you're healthy enough for HRT and you want to have natural looking breasts, you might want to talk to your doctor about getting prescribed.

[Sandy]

Julie:

That was a very good response, and lays out the issues of specifically MTF breast augmentation.

I have a very large thorax (44 inch), and my surgeon, Dr. Z, recommended high profile saline implants, and he recommended that I have a large cup size, a D cup (650 cc).  His reasoning was very similar to what Julie described.  Because I am a large economy sized woman, anything smaller would not have given me as good a profile.

At first I was aghast at his recommendation.  By the time I had my consult with the doctor, I had developed about an A+/B cup and I had envisioned myself having a C cup implant.  Also I had thought about having a teardrop shape, not a high profile, bowl shaped, implant.

I gave his recommendation a lot of thought and spent some time wearing D cup sized breast forms to see how I would look.  I had thought that if I had such a large sized BA, that I would look like Dolly Partton or some over-the-top cross-dresser.  But that was not the case.  No one noticed that I was larger and I felt that my clothes fit better.

What he stated was that the BA would be place high on my chest wall and over a period of months, they would eventually descend to a normal place on my chest and my profile would be quite feminine.  And he was right.

Had I gone with a smaller teardrop shape, they would have descended and my overall profile would have been less because my breasts would have appeared smaller on my thorax.

With the high profile style, they now look quite nice, at least they do to me and the clothes that I wear make a very nice presentation.  But as Julie mentioned, I have no cleavage to speak of and that is again because of my size.  And if you observe other large women you may notice the same thing.

I did go back about a year ago and have a touch up to bring my girls closer together, which the doctor did say may be needed. 

Without any clothes on, yes, you can discern that I have had a BA, but very few ever see that.  My self esteem has been raised dramatically because I feel good wearing the clothes that I do and that is really the point for me.

-Sandy

[Dana Lane]

I hear good things about gummie boobs. Also, there are 'fat transfer' options as well but not sure how those end up looking. I imagine the latter would be fairly expensive due to likely needing more than one treatment for correction purposes. And I believe the gummy boobs aren't available in the U.S. (at least when I did some research they weren't.

[azSam]

1. Get really lucky with HRT

Luck certainly has a little bit to do with it, but genetics and weight have a lot to do with it too. Big boobs run in my family, that certainly helps. But having some extra weight to move around helps a ton as well.

A lot of transgirls, if not most transgirls tend to be very skinny. They have very little body fat for the HRT to move around. If boobs are 80% fat, and you have no body fat and no caloric intake to increase your body fat, how will your boobs grow?

Have you ever heard of a teenage appetite? That's because they're growing, largely in thanks to puberty. They have a huge appetite because they need the extra energy for their bodies to grow. You are going through a second puberty with HRT, eat more to give your body extra stuff to make it grow.

I'm not saying you should weigh 250lbs, but gaining 20lbs can make a big difference. Your hips will get fuller and your boobs will grow. Your face will also shape.

I have no proof to back this next part up, but I imagine that the earlier on in HRT that you have the extra fat, the better the results will be. Give your body the extra fat to move around during it's growth cycle.

[carolinejeo]

A good surgical implant result can be seen here, it is not a very good picture but Caroline Cossey (the famous 'Bond' girl) appeared in Mayfair magazine back in the 1980s and the pictures there (which are no doubt subject to copyright) show the results much better. However, close inspection of these pictures does reveal faint scar lines.

http://www.secondtype.info/images/tula8.jpg

Caroline

[Illusionary weapons]

How big can they grow through HRT?  I'm size A now pre-hormones, I'm thinking B or C is what I'll grow naturally, I don't want bigger than that as they'll be in the way as I'm into adventure sports.

I don't think looking at other female members of the family gives a definitive answer as my sister who is the carbon copy of me doesn't have much while my eldest sister and mother are the opposite, C will make my sister jealous haha but B or C perfect.

Would I have BA?  I'd really like B's at least.

[pebbles]

Gaining alot of weight would certainly help. but it's risky for obvious reasons.

Hmm might be why I hardly grew at all... seeing as I lost weight.

[Illusionary weapons]

We go through puberty again once we start HRT I'm sure having a good figure can only help breast development. I'd say having more fat stores while starting HRT is my own plan and keeping some after just like now.  Though having an athletic build appeals, thing is I just do not develop muscularity at all no matter what, I was a very serious runner weighed 8 stone 10 lbs at 5 foot 8 no stomach muscularity, I pumped weights at 14 stone I bulked up without a muscle or vein showing.

Not to derail this thread but the more I look at myself the more I see an woman saddled with a flippin penis:  medium/large women's hands, size 8 UK shoe, no brow bridge, no adam's apple, strong bones, feminine face breast development and TMI warning penis 3.5 inches, it's like my genetics got that bit wrong WHY!

[Jo Love]

I think it really simple. If you can't have real breasts, make sure they're real expensive.... (as in the best money can buy). After all, it's your body.

[FrancisAnn]

Girl, If your mother had nice size breasts why not wait & see what size your breasts grow into before surgery. Your own natural breasts would be so much nicer to have on your nice feminine body as the HRT slowly but surely makes changes. Obviously it takes a young natural girl several years to grow large breasts.

Good luck either way, we all love 2 nice girls out front. My mother was well blessed so I'm allowing nature to it's course.

[generous4]

I've noticed those some who undergo silicon implants, some their boobs look fake, like you can see they've put like a bowl inside while others have natural-looking boobs with surgery, how do they do that?

I guess some people worry about this, but my boobs have decidedly headed south so all this talk about shape and ideal proportions is like reading a Chinese newspaper -- news from a distant land.

[noleen111]

Generics or a very skilled surgeon

[Rita]

Diet, Age, Genetic lottery

A good way to give the illusion of fullness is wearing a bra.

My breasts are already pretty big for an MTF, but for obvious reasons their shape is not perfect.  At least not yet, it sorta goes into stages of growth and filling in but I find wearing a bra fills those voids where mass will grow eventually.