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Androgyne vs genderqueer

Started by rite_of_inversion, March 07, 2011, 11:45:41 PM

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caseyy

cynthialee - I've heard of the term before. I've looked up a little bit about it to see if it might fit me better than androgyne, but I'm not really sure if it does.
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Nikolai_S

Perhaps just "genderless," then? Neutrois is fairly close... but I've often seen it being used to describe gender-neutral or gender-irrelevant (is that the right term?) people rather than people who are outside of gender spectrums entirely.

Are any of you familiar with the site genderqueer.tumblr.com? The interpretations of the term there are incredibly varied, I think it's interesting to see how differently some people define it.

Personally... I think I confused people when I said I identify mostly as male, yet still consider myself genderqueer. For me, there's a difference between my body identity and my mental identity. I'm uncomfortable having a female body, much more comfortable now that I'm on testosterone. Because female pronouns make me aware of my physical self, I don't like people to use them in reference to me. However, mentally I don't think I'm much more male than female. I'm somewhat genderfluid, I definitely have the occasional day when I'll wake up and just feel female... I don't mind looking and acting stereotypically male, but I'm also comfortable looking and acting stereotypically female, I even desire it. I don't much care at this point how people perceive me, I enjoy seeming ambiguous, as long as I'm binding I'm comfortable.
That fluidity delayed my transition, because I wanted to make sure on my female-leaning days I would still be comfortable with a male body and social interactions. My precise mental gender is still somewhat uncertain to me, but I'm okay with that. Bit of a faux pas, I suppose, linking my declared gender to my physical identity rather than mental, but it's a pain in the ass to explain otherwise. "Genderqueer guy" is so much easier.
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ativan

Quote from: 904-boy on May 26, 2011, 07:45:14 PM
jeez you must be a minor right? thats why. my sister had alot of the same problems and she spent 4 years bouncing between hospitals and foster care families. i was a legal adult when my crap started. that is aweful. but atleast your optimistic.thats a good sign. i try to be but my life is in chaos.
I'm a 58 yr old minor......25 yrs ago I started to change, the last 10yrs has been all the hospitals and such. But now that I'm on Spiro, maybe I have the hormones of a 10 yr old?  Haha, I don't know...
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ativan

Quote from: Nikolai_S on May 29, 2011, 03:19:35 PM
Personally... I think I confused people when I said I identify mostly as male, yet still consider myself genderqueer. For me, there's a difference between my body identity and my mental identity.
You confused me. Sorry.
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Nikolai_S

It's okay, I wasn't paying enough attention to my wording. I understand how my post could be misunderstood.
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Emerald


If you wish to understand what the word Neutrois actually means, what a Neutrois really is, and how the term came into being, go to the original source:
http://neutrois.0catch.com/defin.htm
http://neutrois.0catch.com/faq.htm

-Emerald

Androgyne.
I am not Trans-masculine, I am not Trans-feminine.
I am not Bigender, Neutrois or Genderqueer.
I am neither Cisgender nor Transgender.
I am of the 'gender' which existed before the creation of the binary genders.
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Pica Pica

A lot of people describe that one as genderfluid, like a sort of blobby, lava lamp of gender.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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cynthialee

Quote from: Pica Pica on May 30, 2011, 03:44:53 AM
A lot of people describe that one as genderfluid, like a sort of blobby, lava lamp of gender.
Other than the lava lamp, this was one of the things that crossed my mind.
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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chrishoney

Was listening to a John Waters interview on NPR the other night--he was talking about being heteroflexible. Kinda liked the extension to gender: genderflexible.  In my mind, this plays nicely against what I see as a preference for rigid binary choices in society as a whole. Just saying.
I believe in nothing; everything is sacred.
I believe in everything; nothing is sacred. (The Chink, in "Even Cowgirls Get the Blues")
Embrace the chaos.
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Jaimey

Quote from: cynthialee on May 29, 2011, 01:52:30 PM
Androgyn is both male and female in one person.

I identify as androgyne and that's not how I see it, which is the point of this thread in the first place.  That's what androgyne is to you.

I'm not trying to be a dick, btw.  I just wanted to restate that the terms are different to different people.
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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Pica Pica

I like genderflexible - not for me, but as a term for someone.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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Jaimey

If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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ativan

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chrishoney

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I believe in nothing; everything is sacred.
I believe in everything; nothing is sacred. (The Chink, in "Even Cowgirls Get the Blues")
Embrace the chaos.
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Jaimey

If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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Jaimey

I'm gonna flex my gender all over the place.  :icon_bumdance-nerd:
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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Pica Pica

well, make sure you are in a sou wester first and an anorak (preferably yellow)


(but less girly if ya wish)
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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Padma

...or maybe it's the all-new breakfast cereal, GenderFlecks™ - packed with crunchy flecks of BoyGal (pat. pending).

Got Flecks?
Womandrogyne™
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ativan

Now that the word has rolled around in the round places of my head, gender flexible does seem like a term of sorts. Gender fluid would be the similar phrase. Genderfluid, Genderflex. Hmm...

Anyone care to make a top ten list of terms/names?
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ativan

Transgender
Androgyn/genderqueer
Genderfluid/Genderflex
Bigender
neutrios

Help me out here...Emerald?
Anybody?
Hellllloo!
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