Does it honestly matter whether you pass as your gender or not?

[-CRaSH-]

For the record we are not all the same in respect of the treatment we need. I had just one corrective operation to a part of my body that only a sexual partner would see.

Some of us got to enjoy childhood spent at least partially in our "correct gender" too. I did.

I agree that it is nice to blend in, but it isn't by any means the primary objective. The primary objective is to be comfortable in one's own skin.

I know that it isn't the primary objective. But it is nice to look the part. Would you personally rather be more masculine in appearance, or more feminine.

[-CRaSH-]

It's about how we feel rather than looks. It isn't a beauty contest lol

I "pass" (such an ugly word denoting conceit) well enough that the men I date never guess about my past unless I tell them. I can walk through a crowd of teenage girls and never get a second look (some call that the ultimate "pass" test). That said, I never worry about passing anyway. Why? Because I'm a woman, therefore I "pass". 

Honestly, passing isn't about being man or woman. It's about looking the part.
According to you, you infact look the part.

[Janet_Girl]

it is very obvious that you just don't get it.  It has NOTHING to do with LOOKS.

Gods, it is attitudes like that, that cause hundreds to take thier lives every year.  Because that can't measure up to your low standards.

[rejennyrated]

I know that it isn't the primary objective. But it is nice to look the part. Would you personally rather be more masculine in appearance, or more feminine.

My answer may actually surprise you.

It doesn't really bother me that much.

I am someone who genuinely enjoys periodically reinventing myself. Mostly I prefer a "middle of the road" appearance, but I have also sported the buzz cut and general style of an archetypical butch lesbian. In addition when I was younger I have had periods of being and looking quite girly.

So I don't really have a strong preference. It was important to me to be sexually female - but how masculine or feminine I was didn't really matter at all.

[MarinaM]

I guess it is.

I am just not comfortable with my body hair, facial hair, voice and jawline (not all of the time), hair length, skin texture, "part down there." I associate with women better than men, and the people I know and love all know me as a transsexual.

As long as I can get the things I need to ease my primary physical and secondary social dysphoria I really don't care what someone calls me. Some kind of female pronoun would be preferred, and don't throw male ones at me like they're knives.

It's complicated.

[-CRaSH-]

I guess it is.

I am just not comfortable with my body hair, facial hair, voice and jawline (not all of the time), hair length, skin texture, "part down there." I associate with women better than men, and the people I know and love all know me as a transsexual.

As long as I can get the things I need to ease my primary physical and secondary social dysphoria I really don't care what someone calls me. Some kind of female pronoun would be preferred, and don't throw male ones at me like they're knives.

It's complicated.

You look pretty feminine to me.

[-CRaSH-]

it is very obvious that you just don't get it.  It has NOTHING to do with LOOKS.

Gods, it is attitudes like that, that cause hundreds to take thier lives every year.  Because that can't measure up to your low standards.

Ummmm you're not making much since here.... Why're you so angry? And you say "low standards"? What is low, about my standards?

[-CRaSH-]

The original question asks if it matters "whether you pass as your gender", not whether you think someone else passes or not.

Does it matter to me? Yes, as a post-op woman living my life, it matters alot to me that I am recognized as my gender. It is more important to me than most anything. My lifestyle wouldnt be possible without that recognition.

That said, I had SRS for myself, not others to relieve the distress I had with my body.

I never said that any of you pass, or don't pass(well I did say that the hot tgi who posted once above me passed, but whatever).

[MarinaM]

You look pretty feminine to me.

I guess I'm saying I feel no special need to "act like a girl." I do, though. I just try to make the inside and the outside match. I'm always in flux

You'll never get a straight answer out of me! (did you just call me hot?  )

[-CRaSH-]

I guess I'm saying I feel no special need to "act like a girl." I do, though. I just try to make the inside and the outside match. I'm always in flux

You'll never get a straight answer out of me! (did you just call me hot?  )

Lol, yeah I did. And I'm a CIS male.

[rejennyrated]

And I'm a CIS male.

NO! you don't say

Actually I think we all got that  Just!

[MarinaM]

Lol, yeah I did. And I'm a CIS male.

Thank you ! It doesn't matter to me whether you're a cis male. Just know that we all understand ourselves differently, each one like a snowflake 

Jenny, you're one of my role models! I'm like a Jenny fan  /dorkness

[-CRaSH-]

NO! you don't say

Actually I think we all got that  Just!

Lol, shut up .

[rejennyrated]

Lol, shut up .

mmnnn nnnn fffff gggh shhhh hhh 

No it's not working... I cant breath with the gag on!

[FairyGirl]

The original question asks if it matters "whether you pass as your gender", not whether you think someone else passes or not.

Does it matter to me? Yes, as a post-op woman living my life, it matters alot to me that I am recognized as my gender. It is more important to me than most anything. My lifestyle wouldnt be possible without that recognition.

That said, I had SRS for myself, not others to relieve the distress I had with my body.

yes it matter to me that I do, for the same reasons Valerie mentioned. I still don't worry about it anymore, because I know who I am but I admit it's still a constant source of amazement to me. lol When I look in the mirror all I ever see is a woman, and I think that counts for something. It's also amazing what a few years of hormones and a good attitude can make towards your appearance.

[-CRaSH-]

mmnnn nnnn fffff gggh shhhh hhh 

No it's not working... I cant breath with the gag on!

Well that's too bad .

[-CRaSH-]

Respectfully, based on your answers in the Non-op forum of your sexual interests I would question that.

Theres nothing wrong with your answers, it just affects your perspective of us.

How has what I said made you question that I'm a cis male?

[Janet_Girl]

If I were to date a non-op(like you for example) I'd still want to be masculine in bed, though sometimes I'd have the urge to be penetrated(orally, not anally).

Although when I date women, I'm "the man" in the relationship" persay.

Did we forget Crash?  Or are you just saying something about your sexuality

[vanna]

why are you all argueing with someone who doesnt even get the whole trans thing

let them have their opinions and move on surely

[-CRaSH-]

as fare as rare conditions go, 1 in 100, or 1 in 200 isnt very rare at all.  Just imagine for every hundred women you meet, one of them is possibly a transsexual. 1 percent of the entire population of women on earth? that is quite a few.

Yes that is alot of people. But that's still rare.

Assuming that there are 3 billion women on earth 1% of them being transexuals.

That means that there 30 million.

Relatively there aren't that many.