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Electrolysis is draining

Started by Tamaki, April 02, 2011, 06:34:10 PM

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Tamaki

My doctor put me on a medication that causes photosensitivity which means no more laser hair removal. So I've started electrolysis and have had three treatments so far. What I'm finding is that I feel drained for hours afterwards. The electrolysis is uncomfortable but tolerable. It hurts less than laser but last longer. Two of the session were an hour and one was for two hours but it really didn't seem to make a difference. Has anyone else had this experience and does it go away after a while?

The other problem is my upper lip. Even with ibuprofen and EMLA cream (lidocaine 2.5% and prilocaine 2.5%) it hurts way too much. How do you cope with it and does the pain get less with more treatments?

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ClaireA

If I read you right, I think I know what you mean. I usually go in for hour-long electrolysis sessions every other Friday at 6pm, and to be honest, I usually end up falling asleep by like 8:30 (great Friday night, right?), which is weird as I usually stay up until 1am-ish every night. It is definitely draining, and sometimes it does feel uncomfortable for hours after.

As far as the upper lip goes, you might try a narcotic (like, ask your doctor for something). Right now I only take Advil and use some 4% lidocane creme, but I used to occasionally take a Vicodin along with the Advil and that seemed to help immensely. On that note, if you're going to electrolysis multiple times a week, your doc probably wont be too keen on writing you a script for 50 - you'll look like a drug seeker- but if you're like me and go every other week (and go see the doc every 3 months), they probably wont mind writing you a script for like 10.
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Caith

I'm having two hours of electrolysis every week.  I started with only one hour per week last November, but we couldn't get far enough fast enough, so I increased to two hour appointments in January.  We started with my lip lines, then focused on my upper lip.  I was fortunate to have Vicodin left over from gall bladder surgery last year, and I take one of these plus one Benadryl before each two-hour appointment.  Unfortunately, this was still not enough pain relief when treating the area in the center of my upper lip, beneath the nasal septum.  This is typically the most sensitive area on your entire face, even moreso than your lip lines.

If you have either a regular dentist or GP who is willing, they can help you.  Dentists can inject anesthetic to block the nerves in the area being treated, just before your treatment.  A GP can prescribe a higher-concentration lidocaine cream to be prepared by a local compounding pharmacy.  The strongest precaution when using the high-strength lidocaine cream is not to apply it to too large an area.  For instance, apply it to only one side of your upper lip before your session begins.  Thirty minutes later, apply it to the other side of your lip.

One final option (and extremely fuzzy/gray area) is to use an online/offshore pharmacy that sells 10% lidocaine spray, to be applied by your electrologist before treating each area.  A small bottle contains approximately 500 precisely metered sprays, at an average cost of $75.  The same precaution applies as with the compounded cream: don't apply too much to too large an area at one time.  Our skin can only metabolize a certain amount of the anesthetic over a specific period of time.  Applying too much anesthetic overloads your system and causes problems.

Another thing about electrolysis is the cost.  An hour of electrolysis costs more than my hourly wage, making it strictly a losing proposition from a financial perspective.  I have to remember that each zap of the needle is providing an emotional and psychological benefit far greater than the financial cost, especially after the physical effects become apparent.

After you achieve the first clearance of an area, the hair that regrows was either not completely destroyed, or was dormant and not visible at the time of treatment.  The good news is, with a skilled electrologist you can expect at least a 60% to 70% kill rate.  What hairs are not completely destroyed, come back many weeks later as much finer hairs.  These require less energy to destroy and remove.  After you finally achieve the second complete clearance of an area, it requires much less time to remove the small amount of fine regrowth that appears.

The only advice I can provide about feeling drained for hours after treatment is to insure you drink LOTS of water in the hour or two before your appointment.  Keeping your skin well-hydrated makes electrolysis work faster and easier.  If you can possibly do it, avoid coffee or tea in the hours before your appointment, as well.  Caffeine tends to amplify the pain response in a lot of electrolysis patients, so avoid it if you can on days when you have appointments.

I know this is a LOT of information to process, but I hope some of it is useful and helpful to you.  Feel free to PM me if I can help explain any of this in more detail.
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Tamaki

Quote from: ClaireA on April 02, 2011, 07:22:27 PM
If I read you right, I think I know what you mean. I usually go in for hour-long electrolysis sessions every other Friday at 6pm, and to be honest, I usually end up falling asleep by like 8:30 (great Friday night, right?), which is weird as I usually stay up until 1am-ish every night. It is definitely draining, and sometimes it does feel uncomfortable for hours after.

Yeah, this is exactly what I'm talking about. I went in this morning and I just want to nap all day. I'll try going in the afternoon, then I can just go to sleep earlier.

I don't drink enough water in general so this is a good reason to drink more.

Quote from: Caith on April 02, 2011, 07:29:09 PM
I was fortunate to have Vicodin left over from gall bladder surgery last year, and I take one of these plus one Benadryl before each two-hour appointment.

What does the Benadryl do for you?

I have some Vicodin left over from a chronic hip issue so I'll try that first. The doctor monitoring my hormones has been through electrolysis so I can go to her for the other things if the Vicodin doesn't work, I'm sure she will understand.

Quote from: Caith on April 02, 2011, 07:29:09 PM
Another thing about electrolysis is the cost.  An hour of electrolysis costs more than my hourly wage, making it strictly a losing proposition from a financial perspective.  I have to remember that each zap of the needle is providing an emotional and psychological benefit far greater than the financial cost, especially after the physical effects become apparent.

The cost is awful but these hairs on my face must go! I'm really looking forward to the first time my face is cleared. It will be the first time in 30 years that I haven't worn that mask.
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ClaireA

I was just thinking about trying benedryl yesterday - I'm guessing you use it to make you drowsy, right?

To be honest, I can't necessarily say that the Vicodin reduced the pain so much as made me not really care about the pain. I know that sounds bad, but lets be honest... Electrolysis is hell.
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Caith

I take Benadryl because it is an antihistamine.  It reduces my skin's tendency to swell with fluid in response to the electrolysis, and prevents any reactive itching.  My skin is pale, tender, and extremely sensitive.  The first time I had electrolysis on my lower neck many years ago, the swelling was ridiculous.  When I restarted treatment late last year, I knew I'd need something to manage the swelling, and Benadryl works well.  Fortunately, it doesn't make me drowsy.
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Dana Lane

I just tried a new technique a friend suggested and it worked great! I, too was pretty much destroyed after my sessions.

Put the lidocaine on thick, cover it with plastic wrap (for an hour). Take one of those ice flexible ice packs you can freeze overnight with you. Take some cortizone cream with you. Take 4 large ibuprofen gel tabs about an hour before your appointment.

As soon as your needle doctor finishes on once side, put the ice pack on it.  Then when that is finished have them put the cortizone cream on and put the ice pack on the other side. Timing is crucial, it seems. 

I used this technique last session and I couldn't believe the difference. I even went out that night and had fun. There was very little pain (unlike the normal face on fire all day long).
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Caith

Here's how my lips looked 12/2/2010 before starting electrolysis:




Here's how they looked 3/31/2011 after four months of electrolysis:




The second picture was taken a week after treating the area on the front and sides of my chin.  You can see the residual redness, which requires two to three weeks to completely clear up.  During that time, I add a spot of makeup/foundation to my moisturizer each morning.  This helps diffuse/tone down the redness without a "covered by makeup" look.  It required two months to achieve two full clearances around my lips.  Since then, it requires 20 to 30 minutes to remove whatever fine, nearly invisible regrowth occurs in those areas.  Fortunately, these finer hairs require less energy to remove and cause less redness and swelling.

Hannah, I hope this gives you something to look forward to.  Electrolysis is slower than laser, but it is guaranteed to provide results.
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Rock_chick

You guys need to take pain killers after etectro?!
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Caith

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JennX

All the different versions of EMLA, LMX, etc 4-5% Lidocaine creams I've tried have been temporary (15-20 minutes) relief at best. Also you need to cover the specific area on your face with plastic wrap (or similar) after applying the cream to get the max anesthetic effect... which is just a little too much for me. I've just gotten to the point where I just don't bother with the cream anymore. I'm not going to lie, right under my nose/upper lip still is super painful, and the tears will start rolling quickly, but I just sit there and deal with it. I think the longer you've been going, the easier it gets, or maybe your body builds up some small amount of tolerance to the pain. At least it did with me to some small degree.
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Diane Elizabeth

        I've tried all those little tricks befoer going to my electorlsysist and it was still painful.  I do recall one time falling asleep during a treatment.  I wish I could every time there.  A whole lot less pain to go through that way.  Anyway I am now using an electrolysisit that can numb me up like my dentist.   Speaking of my dentist, I went for a root canal last week and he numbed up the area 3X before I could withstand the pain he inflicted.   I do not do PAIN very well.  Electrolsysis can be mentally and physically draining.  I am more worried about my financial drain of the wallet though.  I have about 40 hours and nowhere near done.
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Julie1957

Has anyone tried the electrologist (in Florida I think) that uses nitrous oxide for up to 8 hour sessions?  Also has anyone tried the place in Dallas that injects novocaine and does 8 hour sessions with two electrologists at once?  How was it? 

Thanks
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