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DUMPED, DUMPED & ALWAYS BEING DUMPED!!!

Started by Sad Girl, April 19, 2011, 10:36:05 AM

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Sad Girl

I'm FED UP! FED UP!! AND FED UP BEING DUMPED EVERY TIME! by those so called 'strict straight men'.

No wonder why some will always hide their past. Me, once operated there's no way I'm gonna reveal. ! You'll never live your life and be accepted like a 'TRUE REAL WOMAN' but be seen and perceived as a 'THIRD GENDER' and by some idiot you'll be always perceived as a 'creature' NO MATTER HOW BEAUTIFUL YOU MAY BE. They will always prefer going with an average-looking bio woman than with a bombshell-looking trans. DAMN!!! I'm so pissed off!
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Cindy

What's up Honey?

Let's talk and post about it, You are family and have friends here. That is what we are about. Calm down and talk,

Cindy
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Sad Girl

Quote from: CindyJames on April 19, 2011, 10:45:40 AM
What's up Honey?

Let's talk and post about it, You are family and have friends here. That is what we are about. Calm down and talk,

Cindy

Thanks Cindy. I'm just fed up being rejected by men always. Some talk a lot like saying 'You are very beautiful, I want you, I am so in love with you and want to make the rest of my life with you and as soon as you say the truth, they DUMP you in a fraction of a second without any pity so COLDLY. I'm just fed up being dumped always.  :embarrassed:
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Melody Maia

Well honey, it just sounds like you haven't found the right guy. Anyone who would dump you so quickly and coldly probably only wanted you for one thing. They probably also have other personality defects that you wouldn't discover until later. In a way, being able to get by this one thing is a useful test of his character. I know that may not be what you want to hear in the middle of your pain, but I hope you find some comfort in the thought.
and i know that i'm never alone
and i know that my heart is my home
Every missing piece of me
I can find in a melody



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Cindy

As Mel says, do you really want a guy who just wants sex? I reckon we need to find guys we can talk to and love us, before anything physical. I may be old fashioned but date a guy at least three times before revealing anything. He needs to know you and you really need to know him. And cheer up doll, we love you :-* :-* :-* :-*

Cindy

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Sad Girl

Quote from: Melody Maia on April 19, 2011, 11:13:49 AM
Well honey, it just sounds like you haven't found the right guy. Anyone who would dump you so quickly and coldly probably only wanted you for one thing. They probably also have other personality defects that you wouldn't discover until later. In a way, being able to get by this one thing is a useful test of his character. I know that may not be what you want to hear in the middle of your pain, but I hope you find some comfort in the thought.

The love thingy above was just an EXAMPLE of how hypocrites men are. To be honest with you sisters, I'm just for 1 night stand. My heart is so bruised that I can't love anymore, not for now. I wish ALL guys I wanted accepted me for sex. In fact they ALL do accept me in the beginning. There are some who are so GOD-LOOKING that I will conceal the truth to the max and find all sorts of excuse never to go 'down there' and stay only on the 'surface' but the others I try to be honest to avoid problems. But this is getting annoying now. I'm fed up being in suspense always of what would be reaction of the guy.
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JohnR

Do the guys tell you that they are dumping you because of the information you gave them?
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Sad Girl

Quote from: JohnR on April 19, 2011, 11:29:40 AM
Do the guys tell you that they are dumping you because of the information you gave them?

Hell YEAH! Some even go up to saying. 'I can't do it with you, "YOU'RE A MAN!".
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Melody Maia

Ok, hon, if you are pre-op and you are just looking for one night stands, you are going to run into problems. Maybe it shouldn't be that way, but I do think you are being a bit unrealistic. Maybe even unhealthy, and worst of all, possibly putting yourself in dangerous situations.
and i know that i'm never alone
and i know that my heart is my home
Every missing piece of me
I can find in a melody



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Izumi

Quote from: Sad Girl on April 19, 2011, 12:21:23 PM
Hell YEAH! Some even go up to saying. 'I can't do it with you, "YOU'RE A MAN!".

i read a lot of your posts seemed we have similar experiences however i am not sure if this is correct in thinking, but are you telling them right away or waiting.  Is it your intention to have sex with these men before your relationship reaches a point of maturity, if so, then the result is understandable because they have no bond with you.

Every successful woman that i know of that was born with TS got their guy (PRE-OP mind you in a lot of cases) using a method similar to the one that was taught to me.  Its the safest way I know of but isnt based around sleeping around but building a relationship.  Here are the steps, i don't know if you tried them but its worth a try:

Date 1) During your date tell them your not interested in sex before marriage (even if you don't mean it, say it).  After the date if he calls back hes interested in you not just a quickie.

Date 2) During your date mention that you cannot have kids.  If he asks why just say its a touche subject and you dont want to talk about its something that has been hard for you to deal with in the past, if he continues whip up some tears, its pretty easy for me since i am already sad i cant have kids they usually leave you alone after that as they don't want to ruin the date, or maybe they even console you which is even better.  If they call you back for a 3d date they are not only interested in you as a person, but also ok with the idea of raising a family through adoption or no children. 

Date 3+)  Date him regularly, have fun together, learn about him as he learns about you and try to form whatever bonds you can.  During this period from time to time bring up stuff dealing with LGBT but make sure its weeks/months apart and see how he reacts.  For example:  On a date you could be talking about various topics and then switch it, hey the girls at the office saw this show on tv about lesbians, gays, and transsexuals, what do you think about that kind of stuff?  just make it causual like you dont care what he says.  If its neutral or positive great, probe him again later, if its negative, within the next week end the relationship even if its going well.  You dont want to risk putting yourself in a bad situation.  Just give some excuse like its not you its me or something.  That way he assumes you just broke up for relationship reasons and no one knows your background so even if you see him again it wont cause problems to those around you. 

Date Serious)  If he passes all the other 3 and decides he is ready to step up the relationship, either moving in together or engagement, then its time to disclose the information.  I have to say its a 50/50 shot.  No guarantees, but if he loves you enough and a bond is formed having understood that your just a woman, and witnessed it for that long, he might just not care, but once again its a 50/50 shot.

Dont take it like its a TS thing, women dont disclose their dark secrets until they fully trust their partners.  Anyone woman would save their most intimate secrets for last, you are no exception and in telling those secrets run the risk of losing the relationship, in this way we are no different from anyone else in society. 

Some people would think this is a lie or deceit of some kind to the person your with, but that is not the case because for it to be lie someone will have to present a false representation of themselves.   You are a woman, you know this, and its what you are so you present your true-self, he also does the same, there is no lie in this relationship, unless you believe yourself to not be a woman. 

Anyway, everyone trying that method above has gotten a good man in time, including myself.  I am engaged and will be married after my SRS surgery later this year.  Heh, in almost 2 years together he has never wanted to see it or touch it, and sees living with TS is just a medical condition that can be fixed with surgery.  I asked him if i told him up front if he would have gone out with me, he said "HELL NO!".    This is common to the stories i hear similar to mine from TS folks i know IRL, that have gotten married / engaged to straight partners.
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JessicaH

That is great advice Izumi! It's a shame that even most gg's haven't figured out the same thing.
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Amykins

Hang in there hon, I went through that crap too, and I know it's not easy. When I was newly post-op everyone told me I was such a hottie and all, but most guys, as soon as they knew did the same thing they are doing to you.

One guy told me if he has sex with me it would make him gay because I used to be a guy.

I told him it was much worse than that, and he asked why.

I told him it would make him a child molester too because I also used to be eight years old.

Hang in there kid, there's a guy for you somewhere.

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tekla

The love thingy above was just an EXAMPLE of how hypocrites men are.
Actually, lots of guys are pretty upfront about it, and if not on a personal level, they at least say it in other ways, like this Rod Stewart song.

In the morning don't say you love me
'Cause you know I'll only kick you out the door...
Yea I'll pay your cab fare home
You can even use my best colonge
Just don't be here in the morning when I wake up


And its not a trans thing, CIS girls all over the world are getting dumped right now.  By the way, all over the world women are about to dump that chump too.  The trans thing may be a very convenient excuse, but if it wasn't that, they would have found another reason.

By the way, there are a lot of women who are not looking for love, or anything like that, they are every bit the one night stand fans that their male counterparts are.  They have a life they like and - at least at the current time - don't have room for, or a need for a partner/husband/boat anchor.  They are complete and whole.  They are self-actualized people.  They don't need anyone to 'complete' them, they are complete already.  It's not that a lot of GGs haven't figured it out.  They get it.  They just don't want it.  They have goals beyond being 'wife' and have a pretty keen understanding that once you become 'wife' your going to have to ditch a lot of that stuff.
Like Prince's GF in Little Red Corvette.

See, U're the kinda person that believes in makin' out once / Love 'em and leave 'em fast..
Guess I should have closed my eyes when you drove me to the place where your horses run free
'cause I felt a little ill when I saw all the pictures of the jockeys that were there before me.


And really, just because your going to give it up and make the beast with two backs one night the guy does not owe you a house and an income for the rest of your life.  Nobody's sex is that good.  OK, not nobody, I bet there are a few, like Liz Taylor, but I'll get to that.

women dont disclose their dark secrets until they fully trust their partners.
If then.  Men tend not to tell secrets even when they fully trust their partners.  Fully trusting a partner does not mean they are owed any of that.  Some secrets, perhaps most secrets, are best kept that way.  That's why they are secrets after all.  I really don't want to know all of that - or really any of that - anyway.  Just leave it were it was.

I've got a bunch of stuff that's going to the grave with me, for a number of reasons including, but not limited to: a)Massive Embarrassment, b) It would be really bad, hurtful and maybe even dangerous for someone else if I reveal c) it would be really bad for me if I told (not all crimes have a statute of limitations for example) d) It don't concern you and you have no need to know, ever.  The rule has aways been: What happens on tour, stays on tour.  It's a great rule to live by.

And, since I don't want EVERYONE to know, I don't tell ANYONE - three can keep a secret, if two are dead.


Once you sort out the players who are only looking for sex you'll still have a huge amount of guys who are shopping for a wife.  They are looking for long term relationships.  So the reason that those guys dump you right after you put out?  Sex - the way they want it - is extremely important for most guys and it just wasn't what they wanted.  Sex is half imagination and half physical activity on an athletic level.  And like any sport, some people are Olympic level, and others are non-starters and bench-warmers from the get-go.  Sorry, that's the truth.  I'd say that of the women who have been my lovers (and lets assume that I'm constant) half of them were good - you know, OK, nothing to write home about, I got my rocks off, but there was nothing really to follow up on either.  Then about 20% were very good - good enough to more than satisfy me and give me what I want/desire/need - you know, wife material. 

Then there were about 5% who were super-freak sex machine goddesses that you'd do anything for because sex like that is worth anything and everything.  Like Helen, you know, 'the face that launched a thousand ships' and started the Trojan War?  Guess what, it wasn't her face that launched those ships.  Ever see Liz Taylor's diamonds?  What about her was worth that?  What made those guys go out and drop half a million on bling for her?  One thing and one thing only, and it ain't her cooking skills.  When I saw one of her most famous sets of earrings and necklaces last summer at the Cartier Exhibit all I could think of was: She must have been the best lay ever.  Those girls, those 5%ers, well some of that went down 40 years ago now and I still have constant and continual thoughts about them, and I'm sure that as I lay dying, I'll still be thinking on them, some things are so good you never, ever forget them. 

Then, there were 25%, well I would have had a much more awesome sexual experience had I got the latest Victoria's Secret catalog and done it myself.  Hell, not having any sex would have been better.  Nothing is worse than disappointing sex.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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justmeinoz

Hard to improve on Izumi and Tekla's posts really. Very,very true.
At least you weren't in the position of a cis-woman who gets dumped after a quick shag, rather than before.
Karen.
"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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sascraps

I really feel your pain. I've always been called a THING, a CREATURE and a BEAST and an IT.  :'( :'( :'( :'(
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