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Can God change a man into a woman,or a woman into a man?

Started by Richard D, April 27, 2011, 02:15:26 PM

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kyril

QuoteThere once was a man who believed in God. He had a home in a small town and he prayed everyday. One day it started to rain, and rain. It rained so much and so hard that the town began to flood, all of the man's neighbors began to pack up their stuff, and the man began to pray. He prayed for God to save him.

As the man's house began to fill with water he moved to higher ground in his loft, and he prayed for God to save him.

Not too much later his neighbor rowed over in a boat and pleaded for the man to leave his house and get in the boat. However, the man refused to leave his home. He said, "I have been praying, and I have faith that God will save me." So his neighbor left.

Soon the water began to fill the loft, so the man moved to higher ground on his roof and he prayed for God to save him.

Not too much later, he saw a raft floating near by. The people in the raft begged him to join them, so that they may find safety together. Again the man refused to leave his home. He said, "I have been praying, and I have faith that God will save me." So the people left.

Soon the water began to cover the rooftop, and the man had no place left to go, so he prayed and he prayed. Suddenly he heard a helicopter, and saw a long rope ladder in front of him. "Grab on someone yelled, we will save you!" But again the man refused. He said, "I have been praying, and I have faith that God will save me."
Well needless to say that stubborn man drowned.

When he reached heaven he was very disappointed with God. He asked "Father I just can't understand, I prayed and prayed, and I had constant faith in you. Why didn't you save me?" The Lord replied, "My child, I sent you a boat, a raft, and even a helicopter. I tried to save you, it was you who refused to be saved."
http://recoveryroadmap.com/Public/Sp-pages/GodHelpsThose.html


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heatherrose

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Anything is possible but , how has that worked out for you so far?

The only biblical reference (that I know of) concerning any sort of gender ambiguity caused by the "Almighty" is:

Matthew19:12
For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb:
and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs,
which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake.
He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.


"I have always wanted to have a neighbor just like you,
I've always wanted to live in a neighborhood with you.

So let's make the most of this beautiful day,
Since we're together, we might as well say,
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?
Won't you be my neighbor?" - Fred Rogers
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Del

The Bible says that all things are possible for God so I reckon He could change your body. It also is written that He chooses a body as He sees fit. Evidently He chose the body you have.
It also is written that His ways are a mystery and not our ways. Neither are His thoughts our thoughts. Since it says that nothing is unclean of its self and what a man esteems to be unclean is unclean to him I guess the operation standpoint falls in there. Sort of like does faith consist of tarrying in the body you have or does faith consist of getting an operation?
It's easy to believe if your body aligns with your mind and such. Some of us straight folk have an easier time with that than you all. The one thing that not being healed from my infirmities has taught me is that it shore was easier to believe in healing before I had infirmities that don't get healed. So I just keep going and believe anyway.
I aint saying you should be seeking a healing but rather that it may be a challenge to believe when the answers don't come. Just cause He don't change your body it doesn't mean He can't. He might just be wanting to show others if you will love Him regardless. Kind of like a witness.
Whether or not you have the wrong body for your mind or whatever is between you and God and not for me to judge. Whether you keep it as is or modify it I hope you have a peace about it. I imagine that it takes faith for a Christian to have surgery. If so I can admire that.
Whatever you do end up believing or doing I wish you well.
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Medusa

I think transsexual experience can bring you experience which "normal people" can't ever have
It can enrich you if you take it right way
IMVU: MedusaTheStrange
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mowdan6

To Del.  I am one of those christians, that has the faith...and has done the surgery.  Through my transition, my faith in God has gotten stronger and stronger.  He is my God, My Lord, my Savior.  He is the light of my life.  My shield, my salvation...the strength of my life.  In the book of Jeremiah....it talks about the potter and the clay.  (Of course...God being the potter and myself the clay.)  And it says..."the clay became marred in the potter's hand, so, He re-made it, into something good,"  So, no matter what any church or religion might think of me....I know who I believe in. 
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Del

mowdan6

I am glad to see that your faith has grown. That is really admirable. I hope the Lord blesses all that you do.

I do hope that my wording did not cause others to think that I thought  transgender people going through surgery as having no faith. I reckon that some have their faith made stronger with surgery just as some others may have it made stronger without surgery.

At any rate I am happy for you.
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Anatta

Kia Ora RD,

::) I'm not a follower of any god-centric belief system, but over the years of interacting with those who do believe,  it would seem their  "God tends to helps those who "help" themselves!" in other words they became more "proactive" and didn't just sit back and wait for the miracles to happen... 

Metta Zenda :)
"The most essential method which includes all other methods is beholding the mind. The mind is the root from which all things grow. If you can understand the mind, everything else is included !"   :icon_yes:
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Rosa

There once was a man that prayed to God to save him from a flood.  As the waters rose a fire truck came by to rescue the man, but he replied that God would save him.  The waters continued to rise and along came a boat to rescue the man, but after expressing his gratitude, he said that God would save him.  Soon the waters were near the top of the house and the man was praying on his roof.  Along came a helicopter to save him, but again the man refused stating that God would save him.  The man perished in that flood, and after entering heaven he asked God why he did not answer his prayers and save him.  God replied, "I sent you a fire truck, a rescue boat, and a helicopter - what more did you want?"

The point of the story is that God often does wonders through a variety of means, and people are often the hands of God on earth.  There are many good doctors and surgeons that have saved many people and who can correct many problems, including genital birth defects.
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tekla

How come no one posted the obvious answer?  Sure he could, he's god, but he has to like you first.  If you prayed and it didn't come true, then god just doesn't like you all that much.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Medusa

IMVU: MedusaTheStrange
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kate durcal

Quote from: tekla on May 28, 2011, 02:14:07 PM
How come no one posted the obvious answer?  Sure he could, he's god, but he has to like you first.  If you prayed and it didn't come true, then god just doesn't like you all that much.


Dear Tekla,

The leaders of my tribe speak of the time when G-d become silent. It is also true that there is a time when G-d stop doing fancy miracles.
I know you are are very smart, how you thought as to why the enemies of us have not implemented certain actions? With everything I know about the subject and subjects my only conclusion  -as Sherlock Homes would have done it- is that G-d is not allowing certain actions to take place.  So, I am convinced by deeds that G-d still watches over us. Perhaps in a different level as know we are teens and not toddlers

Kate D (Sage wana be)
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Robyn

The answer is simple. God made you a woman at birth. He also handed you a challenge: to recognize that you ARE a woman and to deal with it.

Robyn
When we walk to the edge of all the light we have and take the step into the darkness of the unknown, we must believe that one of two things will happen. There will be something solid for us to stand on or we will be taught to fly. — Patrick Overton
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Anatta

Kia Ora,

::) I guess for many post-op "god-centric" members here, their answer would be "yes" for their god has done just that...

Metta Zenda :)

"The most essential method which includes all other methods is beholding the mind. The mind is the root from which all things grow. If you can understand the mind, everything else is included !"   :icon_yes:
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kate durcal

Quote from: Zenda on May 30, 2011, 03:02:14 PM
Kia Ora,

::) I guess for many post-op "god-centric" members here, their answer would be "yes" for their god has done just that...

Metta Zenda :)

I am with Roby, I am and always have been a female, I do not believe in any trans anything or post or pre; I am just a female, my challenge is to treat the rest of the world of their dysphoria
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ToriJo

"The LORD does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart."

(part of 1 Samuel 16:7, NIV)
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Cirnobyl

I don't know if he does or not but I thank him anyway for every little change I experience. For my scalp hair that is regrowing, for the face and body shape he gave me, and for sparing my life so many times over. Even for protecting me while I self-med through these hard times. One day I'll post a picture of the old me then what I've become and say"miracles do happen".  :)
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gennee

God has made us as we are. He's given us the resources we need but it's up to use what we know wisely. It's the same with the bible, science, our health, our livelihood, etc.

Gennee
Be who you are.
Make a difference by being a difference.   :)

Blog: www.difecta.blogspot.com
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Azusa John

God has the power, yes. BUT the question is what are his plans.  In the end the most logical thing to do to make this a reality is to find the gender therapist and pursue a "transition" that is available to you.  Those things exist, HRt hormone replacement therapy and SRS as well as other surgeries that can help with changing your self and your body into the transsexual woman that is possible.  So go to your health care people and ask for direction as to what you need to do in your country.
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Jessica Merriman

I personally think G-D can. I mean not in a magical or instant change, but G-D did gift Therapist's, Surgeon's and Medical Providers to assist us in our journey. I have no guilt that what I am doing is wrong at all. I get a "sense" that this is G-D's plan for me, why I don't know because that is up to G-D. :)
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