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Sexual Orgasims . . .

Started by gina_taylor, September 08, 2005, 03:50:21 PM

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Chynna

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Quote from: spike on July 17, 2006, 12:50:21 PM
       

Huh, is that what's going on! ;D

I always thought it was the other way around, like we all had a particular # og O 's & we used them up like coupons!

~Spike

Let's say one misplaced or used up all one's coupons in said book.....
Where would you suppose She (ME ;)) might be able to acquire a new one at? :eusa_think: :eusa_doh:

Damn I need a new coupon book then!
Chynna

couldn't resist the thread!
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wolfie

QuoteI always thought it was the other way around, like we all had a particular # of O 's & we used them up like coupons!

HA HA HA HA HA! like you really believe that! ahhh, that's a riot.

QuoteFYI some men can & do wait the whole 15 minutes!

The oldest trick in the book really does work, think of hockey. I'm really getting to know my stats... but sometimes a guy just can't help it.

     
    Tino
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Leigh

Quote from: tinkerbell on July 17, 2006, 10:00:19 AM
Hi Leigh:

85% success rate!  that's high in my opinion.  I know a few people (about 10) who have had SRS, and only one seems to have the big O.

How many after surgery would admit that it was a failure sensation wise?  Darn few!  I can state that from personal conversations with way more than 10 posties the rate is more like75/80 %. 

I am and thats whats counts.

Leigh



Oh what the heck?  some of us (pre-op) girls haven't had that O feeling for ages, and I don't think it's going to get any better with SRS... :(


tinkerbell :icon_chick:
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tinkerbell

Quote from: Leigh on July 17, 2006, 08:10:11 PM
How many after surgery would admit that it was a failure sensation wise?  Darn few!  I can state that from personal conversations with way more than 10 posties the rate is more like75/80 %. 

I am and thats whats counts.

Leigh



Exactly...not too many people would admit that the sugery was a failure sensation wise, and this is exactly why some post-op MTF fabricate stories about the intense O's,  they have.  Given this, I think your rates are not accurate...and yes...I have also obtained the information I posted by talking personally to people; the difference is that these people did tell me the truth because I happen to be a very close friend of theirs.  Just wanted to clarify...


tinkerbell :icon_chick:


Posted at: July 17, 2006, 09:46:45 PM

Quote from: Leigh on September 08, 2005, 08:43:40 PM
I have seen it posted that the success rate is 85%.

However, I have to wonder how many women would report less than good results.  If you do end up sensate it may be months or several years before the big O happens if it ever does.  Many natally born women have problems reaching  O.




I thought you had obtained this information from personal conversations with people.

tinkerbell :icon_chick:
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Leigh

Quote from: tinkerbell on July 17, 2006, 09:50:12 PM

I thought you had obtained this information from personal conversations with people.


If you will read back I said --I have seen it posted


In the latter post I said--I can state that from personal conversations with way more than 10 posties the rate is more like75/80 %. 

I know many women who are post op and the majority of them have to ability to orgasm.  Wether or not they choose to do so on a regular basis is their personal decision.

Leigh
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stephanie_craxford

This is a topic that really hadn't crossed my mind until very recently.  Right now i have no sex drive what-so-ever, so to reach orgasm at this point in time is not going to happen.  Age, meds, psycho reasons, who knows, why it's not there.  I haven't been bothered by it one way or the other, but with SRS/GRS looming I'm now wandering if my sex drive will return.  Now that would be a feeling I haven't experienced in years.

Steph
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Leigh

Steph

Speaking of my situation it had been years, many years since I had experienced a release.   Sure I dated during transition, but never once did I let the situation go below my waist.  That would have been an invalidation of who I was, using something that just should not be there.

I was fortunate that I met a wonderful woman who understood why I could not and when we parted ( she moved out of country) it was with the understanding that when I could she requested that she be my first.  Two years later, plane ticket in hand I was and she did.

For me it was never about being sensate, I could have cared less.  Once I found out what really living was about I was so glad my Dr. was gooooood.  If anyone is having surgery for sex then they are doing it for all the wrong reasons.

Leigh

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stephanie_craxford

Ahhhhhhhhh she must have been a special woman.  Are you still in touch?

I think that I'm feeling the same way that you were when it came to sex during transition, I think it is psychologically related (as you put it) to not want to validating something that should not be there.  And I have to agree with you on:

QuoteIf anyone is having surgery for sex then they are doing it for all the wrong reasons.
Definitely the wrong reason.  Now I've heard of people having sex for surgery :)  Sorry I couldn't resist.

Steph
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Leigh

Yes Steph she is special.  At different times we lived to towns that were maybe 30 miles apart so we have that in common.  I'm part Indian and she is part Latino.  we met at a Leather play party.  And suprise suprise, we both like women.

As a matter of fact she is going to be in town for a few months before flying back.  That may change my vacation plans.

 
QuoteNow I've heard of people having sex for surgery  Sorry I couldn't resist.

Me too but as much as I needed surgery I couldn't have done that.  I would have went broke  :D

Leigh




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tinkerbell

#29
Okay this reply is for myself...I know....weird...but it works to relieve stress!!!.




TINKERBELL:  tinkerbell #2,  you need one of this  :icon_chillpill:

TINKERBELL #2:  Thank you Tinkerbell, but I think I'll need a bottle of that.

TINKERBELL:  Oh you're very welcome, keep shaking...oops...I mean..smiling,



tinkerbell :icon_chick:
 
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stephanie_craxford

Quote from: Leigh on July 17, 2006, 11:08:50 PM
Yes Steph she is special.  At different times we lived to towns that were maybe 30 miles apart so we have that in common.  I'm part Indian and she is part Latino.  we met at a Leather play party.  And suprise suprise, we both like women.

As a matter of fact she is going to be in town for a few months before flying back.  That may change my vacation plans.

 
Me too but as much as I needed surgery I couldn't have done that.  I would have went broke  :D

Leigh

I hear you :)  But I do find the notion of experiencing the big O tantalizing to say the least.  I can hope I guess.

Steph
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DawnL

In my limited experience, there are posties who are not sensate and don't care because they have no interest in sex.  I know only one postie who is not yet orgasmic (about 7 mos post) but does have sensation.  She said she wasn't all that sensate before surgery and hadn't had an orgasm for a long time pre-op either.  Most of those I know who have sex claim to have orgasm.  To some extent, I think orgasm is something that needs to tended, especially in women and if neglected can become difficult or impossible to acheive.  I was sensate right after surgery though I made no attempt to reach orgasm for the first two months as recommended in the post-surgical instructions.  After that, I could reach something like orgasm, but it took forever (40-60 minutes) and wasn't all that great.  I became frustrated and I could see where some people might give it up as not worth the effort. However, I am *very* persistent, and with time and practice, I am now able to acheive strong orgasms in as little as 12-15 minutes.  I post this only to emphasize that it took great effort, patience, and persistence to become orgasmic as a woman.  My libido is still very healthy and that was a strong incentive to keep trying.  It also takes time to forget what you once understood orgasm to be--for men it's so very simple--and learn the more subtle and complex female orgasm.  Don't be afraid to play with the equipment  ;)

Dawn
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stephanie_craxford

Quote from: DawnL on July 18, 2006, 09:27:30 PM
In my limited experience, there are posties who are not sensate and don't care because they have no interest in sex.  I know only one postie who is not yet orgasmic (about 7 mos post) but does have sensation.  She said she wasn't all that sensate before surgery and hadn't had an orgasm for a long time pre-op either.  Most of those I know who have sex claim to have orgasm.  To some extent, I think orgasm is something that needs to tended, especially in women and if neglected can become difficult or impossible to acheive.  I was sensate right after surgery though I made no attempt to reach orgasm for the first two months as recommended in the post-surgical instructions.  After that, I could reach something like orgasm, but it took forever (40-60 minutes) and wasn't all that great.  I became frustrated and I could see where some people might give it up as not worth the effort. However, I am *very* persistent, and with time and practice, I am now able to acheive strong orgasms in as little as 12-15 minutes.  I post this only to emphasize that it took great effort, patience, and persistence to become orgasmic as a woman.  My libido is still very healthy and that was a strong incentive to keep trying.  It also takes time to forget what you once understood orgasm to be--for men it's so very simple--and learn the more subtle and complex female orgasm.  Don't be afraid to play with the equipment  ;)

Dawn


As I said in my reply to Leigh, suddenly the notion of orgasm has become more and more intriguing.  Even Gillian and I were talking about that tonight, where she said that "I know you" and that I would be wanting to try out the new equipment to see if it works.  And while that may have seemed amusing at the time it had some serious over tones for us.

Steph
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passiflora

for resurecting such an old thread, but there just alwasys seems to be so much pressure put on this orgasm thing. Most surgeons are skillfull enough that they will leave you with the physical ability to orgasm. The art and act of doing it  and acheving it is upt to the indvidual mentally and emotionally, and in practice. It takes practice and determination to acheive orgasm, but once you get one, you will get others for sure.

Actually a self stimulated orgasm is not that hard to acheive, and the act, and the effect is not that much diffrent in feeling than a penile orgasm. It takes longer, and i have to keep my mind into it, but the climax is about the same, just does'nt last as long, and the contractions are'nt quite as strong, and of course there is nothing shooting out. However, in my case, and this does happen to natal females as well, I was concerned the first time it happened to me, so I asked my doctor about it. When I reach climax, the muscles in and around my ureretha relax, and release a small amount of fluid. According to my doctor, this is a urine type fluid, but not total urine, it mixes with mucal material that is released by the membranes that surrounds the ureretha, and this is perfectly normal.

The harder orgasm is the vaginal one from penetration, wheter it be from a toy, or a penis. In my case these take much longer, and I have only acheived these with one guy that I have been with, but have acheived it quite a bit on my home with a toy, it just takes well over an hour, of total concentration and total relaxation. There are several ways of acheiving these. I have learned and practice using my kegel muscle, which at first is hard to find and hard to figure it, becuase your brain is re-wiring and learning how to work the new arrangment down below. Its a diffrnert muscle than the one that stops you from peeing, but you will also learn to use this muscle during innercourse, and all this, along with whats left of the prostrate gland helps in acheiving orgasm.

Sex drive is something totally diffrent and has nothing to do with what the surgeon does. If you have a low sex drive before surgery and have always had one, than you will more than likley still have a low sex drive after surgery. This is a mental and emotional thing and ralrely has anything to do with the physicality of your bottom parts.


It took me about 3 months to have a self stimulated orgasm after SRS, another 6 months to have one through penetration. I try and have one at least once a week, wheter it be on my own, or with a boyfriend, just to stay in practice, and to stay intune with myself, physicaly, sexually and emotionally.

Physically, I know for a fact that my doctor gave me plenty of sensation so that I would be capable of orgasm, so I have no doubt that physically everything works properly. So I would imageine that all of the major surgeons have the same prefected technique. Therefore, its up to me menatlly, and emotionally to learn how to use it and make it work.

Sexuality is just something that is in us, and being and feeling sexy really has nothing to do with wheter we are male or female. If we did'nt understand ourselves sexually as men, and did'nt really no how to experience ourselves, and others sexually then, than it will probally be the same way post op, becuase our physical parts down below have nothing to with this.

Orgasm, and other sexual exctcies usually entails letting oursleves go complelty, and in order to this we have to feel good emotionaly about ourselves and our partners, and we have to trust ourselves and the guy or girl that we are with. In this regards, it does'nt matter what we are physically capbale of, or what parts we have down below. its all about our emotions and how we feel about ourselves.

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Maebh

Quote from: passiflora on January 30, 2007, 02:07:41 PM

Orgasm, and other sexual exctcies usually entails letting oursleves go complelty, and in order to this we have to feel good emotionaly about ourselves and our partners, and we have to trust ourselves and the guy or girl that we are with. In this regards, it does'nt matter what we are physically capbale of, or what parts we have down below. its all about our emotions and how we feel about ourselves.

And I can vouche from  my own personal experience that this statement is also valid for me as a man.... or whoever I am.
LL&R
Maebh
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