So is there a place for she-males?

[gina_taylor]

I'll put in my two cents worth, and I'm sorry if I'm repeateing anything that may have previously been said. I was just reading that she-males are neither male or female, but technically they do start off with a male body and they alter it by taking feminine hormones or getting breast implants and then they have FFS done but they do keep what's between their legs. Now like early transitioning transsexuals, that's the only comparision that I see. But due to the topic of this post, I'd see no problems with having them here.

Gina 

[ShyGothGirl]

Would I accept them and help them?

One of the most simple responses so far: Absolutely, it isn't for me to judge them and I like to help people when I can



**HUGZ**

[togetherwecan]

OK lets stay on topic folks, enough with the cutesy names.  The question is not if you like the term She-male, but would we support a person who joined Susan's who identified as a She-male.

Like it or not there are people out there who are she-males, who are not trying to save money for SRS by working the porn industry, and who are quite happy with what they are.  So if a person joined Susan's and identified as a She-male, would you provide them the same support as the other members, is there a place for them here?

Zythyra, Sheila, and Riki you make good points

Steph

In posing this question one must first ask what YOU define as *she-male* I would think. And, I am surprised anyone would even ask. Isn't Susan's a place for support for all in a sense? I am here. I am not TG. Just because I am a quasi SO means I gain entrance or acceptance here?
Is it possible for one to be happy somewhere in the middle of gender? I would imagine it is. Isn't it similar in an opposite sense as being androgyn?
Who are we, any one of us here, to turn up a nose to someone in need of support?

[RebeccaFog]

Yeah, I say we love everyone equally.

All hearts are created equal. Appearances and labels need not apply.

[Pica Pica]

On a tangent...

Isn't the Frysian language the closest language to English, and the closest living lanuage to Old English before the Norman invasion?

[RebeccaFog]

On a tangent...

Isn't the Frysian language the closest language to English, and the closest living lanuage to Old English before the Norman invasion?

I don't understand why Norman would invade somebody's country. Is Norman a She-male? Are you trying to tell us that she-males have violent tendencies? I must study upon this new revelation.    >

[Pica Pica]

Only She-Males called Norman, and only if they gang up together.

[RebeccaFog]

Only She-Males called Norman, and only if they gang up together.

Thank you for clearing that up. I was getting nervous.

[Maebh]

Only She-Males called Norman, and only if they gang up together.

Thank you for clearing that up. I was getting nervous.

Honis soit qui mal y pense

LLL&R

Maebh

[Pica Pica]

Only She-Males called Norman, and only if they gang up together.

Thank you for clearing that up. I was getting nervous.

Honis soit qui mal y pense

LLL&R

Maebh

That's league of the garter isn't it? Shame on those who think this is shameful - a bit of kingly crossdressing if the Horrible History series gave me any justice.

[RebeccaFog]

Only She-Males called Norman, and only if they gang up together.

Thank you for clearing that up. I was getting nervous.

Honis soit qui mal y pense

LLL&R

Maebh

That's league of the garter isn't it? Shame on those who think this is shameful - a bit of kingly crossdressing if the Horrible History series gave me any justice.

Me am confused

[asiangurliee]

I didn't read all of the posts, but wow, I can't believe there are people who would think that just because a transsexual woman choose not to have the surgery, they have to be called ->-bleeped-<-s and not real women. That's pretty ...well...pretty close minded.

The "male" genital  does not have to be male for all transsexual women. For me, I think it's ugly, I don't really like it, but I don't have to get rid of it to be a woman, and i don't care what anyone thinks, I can enjoy my sexual part as a female in the privacy of my own orgasm (when i am alone, thank you very much) and if I want to keep it and you think that's not a womanly thing to do, well, I don't give a crap what you think. Of course, if i was given a chance to magically turn my part into a vagina, hell yeah, but surgery is not for everyone, sorry.

People might say i am still a boy or a ->-bleeped-<- if i don't have srs, but I don't think of myself as a ->-bleeped-<- or a boy. I am a human being with a female gender, and my decison about srs is my personal choice.

[Nero]

I didn't read all of the posts, but wow, I can't believe there are people who would think that just because a transsexual woman choose not to have the surgery, they have to be called ->-bleeped-<-s and not real women. That's pretty ...well...pretty close minded.

The "male" genital  does not have to be male for all transsexual women. For me, I think it's ugly, I don't really like it, but I don't have to get rid of it to be a woman, and i don't care what anyone thinks, I can enjoy my sexual part as a female in the privacy of my own orgasm (when i am alone, thank you very much) and if I want to keep it and you think that's not a womanly thing to do, well, I don't give a crap what you think. Of course, if i was given a chance to magically turn my part into a vagina, hell yeah, but surgery is not for everyone, sorry.

People might say i am still a boy or a ->-bleeped-<- if i don't have srs, but I don't think of myself as a ->-bleeped-<- or a boy. I am a human being with a female gender, and my decison about srs is my personal choice.

i agree. SRS doesn't magically turn anyone into a woman. You either are or you aren't to begin with.

[Wendy]

Yes if they prefer to call themselves ->-bleeped-<-s.

I prefer to call myself different and I can relate to many people on this forum.

W

[Suzy]

We sure are burning up a lot of bandwidth being offended for someone else.  Are there any she-males on here?  Surely one would have come forward by now if so.  And if not, I think this whole discussion is moot.

Kristi

[RebeccaFog]

We sure are burning up a lot of bandwidth being offended for someone else.  Are there any she-males on here?  Surely one would have come forward by now if so.  And if not, I think this whole discussion is moot.

Kristi

   Hi Kristi,

   I think the point of the discussion was a kind of "what if" scenario. I think that overall, it's been good in that it has brought up some discomfort within some of us about how others present themselves. I think it has given people an opportunity to think about how they feel in this respect.
   If a she-male turns up tomorrow, they will have a different experience than if they had turned up before this thread.

   I think you're right, though, it's wound itself out.

[Wendy]

We sure are burning up a lot of bandwidth being offended for someone else.  Are there any she-males on here?  Surely one would have come forward by now if so.  And if not, I think this whole discussion is moot.

Kristi

Kristi,

I am not offended at all.   If I was better looking I would have gotten a movie contract.

W

[Ricki]

Eating more bandwidth i'll say i'm suprised this is still active since the last time I was on line here..
Hunny says wow too in dog lingo!
She's not trans.. But OCd close enough to not be normal!
anyway Kristi your pic is gorgeous, i'm soo jealous! WOW!
Nice seeing everyone's posts!
Beck i missed you !
Ricki

[RebeccaFog]

I've missed you too, Ricki!

I was close to sending out an SOS.