You don't want to swap genders

[Sarah Louise]

You might not want to swap genders, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be right for others.

[Maddie Secutura]

You might not want to swap genders, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be right for others.

I had pretty much said before that if the means were available to swap genders and make your mind match your given body I would have done it.  But having experienced just such a thing, I'm glad it wasn't available.  I would have made a huge mistake.

[VeryGnawty]

But the problem is actually enforcing a ban.

No, that's not the problem at all.  After all, the government spends huge amounts of money trying to control every other drug.  One more addictive substance won't put that much more of a burden on the police.

No, enforcement isn't the problem.  The problem is the massive revolt that would happen if alcohol were outlawed.  Why do you think they made it legal again after alcohol's banned status in the early part of the previous century?

[kate durcal]

Kia Ora, I suppose it means Hola Chicas

Metta Zenda is right, chronic consumption of marihuana (several joints a day) results in a reduction on sperm count, testosterone, free testosterone, and testicular volume. In addition, an incipient gynecomastia has been documented as well. Add the foul bad bread, and damage to short term memory, and of course the carcinogens present in the smoke, which are twice as many as in tobacco smoke..

Maaddie, pretty girl, "What ever you do, do not smoke!"

Love,

Kate D

[Maddie Secutura]

Rest assured I'm not a pothead.  I just happen to have a few pothead friends who live in the town I was visiting over the weekend. 

[Joelene9]

  Next time say NO to your friends.  We all care for you here.  Hugs.
  Joelene

[kate durcal]

No, that's not the problem at all.  After all, the government spends huge amounts of money trying to control every other drug.  One more addictive substance won't put that much more of a burden on the police.

No, enforcement isn't the problem.  The problem is the massive revolt that would happen if alcohol were outlawed.  Why do you think they made it legal again after alcohol's banned status in the early part of the previous century?

Led by the Anti-Saloon League and the Women's Christian Temperance Union, the dry forces had triumphed by linking Prohibition to a variety of Progressive era social causes. Proponents of Prohibition included many women reformers who were concerned about alcohol's link to wife beating and child abuse and industrialists, such as Henry Ford, who were concerned about the impact of drinking on labor productivity. Advocates of Prohibition argued that outlawing drinking would eliminate corruption, end machine politics, and help Americanize immigrants.
Prohibition failed because it was unenforceable. By 1925, half a dozen states, including New York, passed laws banning local police from investigating violations. Prohibition had little support in the cities of the Northeast and Midwest.

Prohibition quickly produced bootleggers, speakeasies, moonshine, bathtub gin, and rum runners smuggling supplies of alcohol across state lines. In 1927, there were an estimated 30,000 illegal speakeasies--twice the number of legal bars before Prohibition. Many people made beer and wine at home. It was relatively easy finding a doctor to sign a prescription for medicinal whiskey sold at drugstores. Happenning in California and Colorado with the "weed"
Prohibition created a huge consumer market unmet by legitimate means. Organized crime filled that vacuum left by the closure of the legal alcohol industry. Homicides increased in many cities, partly as a result of gang wars, but also because of an increase in drunkenness. It was not until the 1960s that alcohol consumption levels returned to their pre-Prohibition levels. Wht were the levels of "weed" smoking before its prohibition/

[Maddie Secutura]

That was the whole point of the thread.  I never intended for it to be about drugs nor did I ask for an intervention.

[VeryGnawty]

I never intended for it to be about drugs nor did I ask for an intervention.

Yes, but you mentioned mind-altering substances, which in some circles is known as a "grenade"

When lobbed into a discussion forum Grenade instantly blasts civil discourse into smoking rubble. Grenade's explosive content can be adjusted to the forum's interests. Typical detonating materials can be Bill Clinton, George Bush, gun control, homosexuality, Reagan, abortion, taxes, conspiracy theory, the NEA, welfare reform, etc.

[Anatta]

Kia Ora Maddie,

I know this was not intended as a thread on drug use experience, but....

  The main point I was trying to make re your experience with "Jah Herb", is how ganja tend to amplify what one is experiencing, and if for whatever reason there's a trace of "paranoid" in ones mind at the time, this will increase tenfold...

Metta Zenda

[JessicaH]

Don't you find the particular nature of the trip to be oddly specific?  Or am I reading too much into it?

I find the whole episode fascinating and the first thing that pops into my mind is to study the incident to find out what was going on in the brain to cause this. It could lead to understanding of where gender resides in the brain and how a chemical or event can induce disphoria. This would be great if you could pass this along to a serious gender research scientist.

[Cen]

Can't say I've ever had that reaction, but it sounds interesting.

It might be nice to just feel better about one's body without any physical changes taking place.  However, I think that would take a rather drastic change in personality to really help with dysphoria.  I can see many ways how mine has at least partially shaped how I've become who I am.  If it suddenly went away, would I still be me?

[Michelle.]

Quote from: Maddie Secutura on May 15, 2011, 10:42:21 pm
Don't you find the particular nature of the trip to be oddly specific?  Or am I reading too much into it?

I would say, yes you are. That idea was probably on your unconscious mind. If you hadn't gotten messed up you probably would have dreamt about it that night. By getting stoned, or whatever, you were in effect experience "lucid dreaming."

By learning meditation techniques you can experience the ability to guide your own dreams.

On the positive note. You are even more sure that your true self is female.

[MarinaM]

I'm a lucid dreamer, and I have had dreams of being keenly aware of being male. They replaced my nightmares of being burned alive by jet engines and waking up in rotating rooms as the worst dreams ever.

I think it is completely natural for our psyche to play badminton with our identities from time to time, since the cause of this condition (TS) has been hypothesized as being a neural mismatch (parts of the brain are female, others are male, and it is quite possible to have parts of a size in between). A struggle may be expected. As I have stated before, playing with an already volatile brain is not the healthiest way to go.

I concur, don't take the pill. Too many problems with such a half baked solution.

[rejennyrated]

You know the funny thing?

When I was kind of intersex/male being a male bodied female used to upset the crap out of me. However for some strange reason I found out a long time ago that I am totally comfortable with the idea of being a female bodied male. Most of the time I am a female bodied female of course... but just occasionally...

I have often suspected that my "gender", whatever the heck gender is, is somewhat flexible so sometimes that genuinely is how I see myself (as a female bodied man) and it doesn't worry me in the slightest. If anything it just feels "special"!

I know I am female bodied and that I will always present as a woman and that just feels "right" to me irrespective of whether the energising personality is a male or a female one. Maybe that is the intersex in me shining through...

[spacial]

That was the whole point of the thread.  I never intended for it to be about drugs nor did I ask for an intervention.

Maddie.

Really sorry for missing your point.

Big Hugs. Sorry. 

[pebbles]

Well now I obviously don't want to take the Gender Dysphora curing pill. If only because My body is now largely female their is no sense in it. And if I was cured it would be more hassle than it's worth as I'd have to reverse the process and be in a similar position to an FTM.

Before I transitioned however yeah it would have made ALOT of sense and I'd have taken it in a heartbeat.

Most likley Maddie took a drug that wasn't very harmful, as most of the inhaled hallucinogens arn't... The scientific truth about such things upsets governments hence why you will never find a biologist these days on drug panels... more or less all of us say the same thing. Ban Tobbaco restrict alcohol, Legalize 3/4 of the rest as they arn't dangerous.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a2hnHdYMVClw
It's about government control, nothing more.

[JessicaH]

It seems that non-legal drugs are topic that interests many on the board. I will create a separate thread so we can talk about that without sidelining Maddie's thread.

[rejennyrated]

Please be careful as any thread which strayed too far into illegal substances would be violate TOS.

[pretty]

I doubt the existence of a drug that can swap your gender identity.

It sounds to me like a letting out of things buried in the subconscious...