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Did/are you live/living a "gay" lifestyle prior to transitioning?

Started by Anatta, May 18, 2011, 02:17:57 PM

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Did/are you live/living a "gay" lifestyle prior to transitioning?

Yes and I've "never" been intimate with anybody whose "psycho-sexual" nature is the same as mine
11 (12.5%)
Yes but occasionally, I'd bat for what I would consider the other side in an attempt "to conform"
5 (5.7%)
Yes but I'm bisexual anyway
14 (15.9%)
No but I've thought about it
24 (27.3%)
No never given it much thought
34 (38.6%)

Total Members Voted: 81

mlaverne

Mostly everyone I know sees me as a lesbian...who dresses in male's clothing..who tries to look like a male...when I feel like this man who looks like a woman :(

I've told a total of 4 people about the real me, how I am inside and how I want to live.

I've heard some of the people in my life say how they're so "accepting" of basically l, g and b but they bash the t :(

I'm scared to tell a lot of people; I hope by time I'm finished with college I can feel free enough to live how I'm meant to be.
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Kelly J. P.


Gay lifestyle, huh?

Well, for the most part people assumed I was gay (though every now and then people would ask instead of assume), but I've never been in a relationship like that... I like guys from afar, but would consider it unfair to want a relationship now, with most guys. If I wanted a guy, I would either have to pretend to be gay, which is unfair to me, or he would have to be okay with my pre-op and non-passing status (for now), which is completely unfair to him.

So, I guess I was just that odd flamboyant person with gayish tendencies!

... And still am, mostly. Although my BFF may end up being my BF... with him being so open-minded, I don't think it would be unfair to either of us at all  ;D Will we look gay, though... probably not. He has a hard time passing for a guy (which he both likes and hates), so we look straight (mostly).

But then I go to think - with him and I, would we be living an apparently "gay" lifestyle if we looked like a lesbian couple (that is, once I can blend properly)? Heehee. I think that would be too funny... I would not mind one bit if we looked like a gay/lesbian couple. We know better ... so what else matters?

:D
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Amazon D

I was the classic gay hater. I could barely be around them but my sister had one as a friend so i had to with him. He knew to not even get close to me or else i would have punched him. Well i would have run away probably. Yes one night i was drunk and drove my car to a park and some guy did jerk me off and i felt so disgusting i said to myself i would never ever do that again. I then got married and 20 days later she left me calling me feminine. I was then confused and met a 4 yr post op MTF who was a mentor as i transitioned and well i fell for her and gave her oral but didn't use my thing. She to me was all woman, but she did like men too. She left me after i had my GRS. I then stayed single and celibate since 98. I never found love so i never dated. I also started to dislike how men were attracted to me, so i switched how i dressed. I was glad my penis was gone and surely didn't want another anywhere near me. So i am not sure what i am but i do not like Cismale bodies, since i hated my own and that sexuality that went along with it. I feel gay males live a depressing life of sex without true love but then i did meet some gay men who had orchys because they did love one another and wanted to stop the sex part so i was wrong. I suppose there are sexually active gay males who love one another and are not depressed. However, i don't know them. I also saw how many lesbians were fighting with each other and switching around so i wanted someone like myself who was at least post op orchy and living full time and seeking true love but i never found her and have long ago given that up. I live a celibate spiritual life since 98. I am happy and glad that nasty male sex drive is longggg gone... I enjoy so many other simple things in life
I'm an Amazon womyn + very butch + respecting MWMF since 1999 unless invited. + I AM A HIPPIE

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kim_k

I'd consider my lifestyle as a pre-Transition genderqueer MtF person to be pretty "gay" even though I'd consider my orientation bisexual, albeit with a preference for men. Being male-bodied, this automatically marks me as "gay", and anything I do which I consider "femme" is considered "flamboyant" by others...

I guess it's not too bad, since gay cis-males are probably the most privileged class out of the LGBT community, but it's obviously frustrating to have my gender identiy glossed over or misinterpreted.
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HonestReflections

Quote from: JessicaG on May 20, 2011, 01:10:00 AM
I'm 95% attracted to women with a fleetingly in men. I am also M2F so that makes me....not sure but you can do the math. lol

I came out as a lesbian (I am a FtM). now that I have a gf person roomate thing and she wants me to propose to her, I am terrified. I am questioning my sexuality BIG TIME.
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Ann Onymous

Quote from: Janet Lynn on May 18, 2011, 10:15:34 PM
I was always in what others saw as a hetro relationship.  I have been married three times, all to women.  My sexuality has not changed, so I guess I was always a lesbian.  Even when living it that other form.
some similarities, although no marriages for me.

I was your ordinary average baby dyke by appearance by the age of 15.  Never had ANY interest in males as a sexual target, no matter whether they were gay or straight.  And, quite frankly, I did not find a spark with hetero-identified females.  Neither surgery nor HRT did much of anything to alter ANY of those feelings... 

When I finally told my parents of the surgical track, I had to basically come out to them twice since they were so clueless about the lesbian thing that had been lurking in the background for years before being able to get surgically tracked...and at the time I am not sure which they took harder, that I was going to have surgery or that I was lesbian. 

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kelleystorm

I am in a hetero relationship now.  Not too sure how much longer it will last, as my wife just cannot put herself into a "lesbian" mindframe. 
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Annah

Prior to transitioning, I dated both men and women. So i was bi sexual. However, when I was married I was pretty much only with my "wife"

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myraey

I have had brief hetero guy experiences. That is the only area where I have had any form of experience at all. Girls are beautiful. I still like girls in some weird way. Mentally I am confused about the relationship aspect of it.

No I have not had any gay experiences. At times I have found men handsome. Some people have questioned if I was gay. A lot more consider me a hetero guy. Gay relationships do nothing for me at all. I have a serious mental block with that. If I were ever into guys I would have to be the girl there. I don't think I will ever identify as a bi/gay male.
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Julie Marie

Zenda, if you had the choice, "Never even crossed my mind", I would have checked that box.  I did at one point think I would at least try straight sex after GRS but I've been post-op for over two years and I can now say I can't see that ever happening.
When you judge others, you do not define them, you define yourself.
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toxicblue

I'm bi, but I'm only out to select people right now.  But since my preferences and everything seem to be changing every other week, I'm still trying to find where I stand with it all.  I'm hoping that transitioning will balance things out a bit.
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Wil Najera

i'm just starting out in my transitioning. but so far i've lived as a lesbian. i'm 100% attracted to females. i only "check out" guys' body's because i'm jealous and wish that i wasnt cursed with the wrong body at birth. i've always been a guy in mind and heart. as far back as i can remember, even at 3 years old. i've always pictured myself as a man and that one day i'd get married and be a daddy. i'm now married to the most wonderful woman in the world, but she's a lesbian so bottom surgery isnt going to be an option for me. its ok tho, because i can still be the man i am on the inside without the one small little detail. no one but her will see me completely naked anyways. and regardless, i'm still a man. :)
~wiLeeuhm~
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valyn_faer

Well, I was raised Mormon (Atheist for the last 10 years), so being attracted to men and acknowledging that I felt I should have been born with a female body were simply not an option. They drill heteronormativity into you like nobody's business. Needless to say, I struggled during my teenage years with my attraction to men and my transsexuality/->-bleeped-<-/whatever terminology you want to use. I was always terrible at flirting with/hitting on/dating women. My friends always set me up with these girls--some of them Mormon, others not--and it was always just awkward and uncomfortable. I always approached them as an equal, like we were two girls hanging out. That apparently was a huge turn off for them and they would quickly lose interest in me because of that. That worked out well for me, though. I was able to mostly avoid intimate situations and wouldn't have to worry about not being able to "perform" and then have rumors spread that I'm gay, which would have been problematic living in such a Mormon infested, conservative place. Although, I think there were suspicions among my friends and family anyway because I never really dated women all that much. In the eyes of the Mormon church, you can't be in your mid to late twenties and not be married. If you are, then you must be broken in some way. The odd thing is, when I did go on dates with ciswomen, they always tried to force me into this masculine and dominant role, which I never felt comfortable being. Apparently ciswomen don't want as much gender equality as we've all been led to believe. I dated a couple guys briefly back in Arizona before I moved to Oregon. The relationships were short, though, and had to be on the DL. :-\ It's so much easier and more "natural" feeling for me to flirt with guys, though. I have had sex with ciswomen, but that was just sort of weird. And I was just jealous of their bodies the entire time. I would stare at them when they were naked or in their underwear, which they took as sexual attraction, but it was really just jealousy--burning, painful, jealousy. Sex with cismen, however, is a million times better! Now, to complicate things even further, I like my men queer! Haha. You give me a skinny guy in some lingerie, fishnet stockings, lipstick, eye liner, eye shadow, and mascara, but otherwise masculine looking, and I'm a happy girl! ;D
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Louise Scott

I have been out as gay since I was 25 and have almost come out as a TG but theres something in the back of my mind that keeps stopping me, I am ver confused at the moment
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Sibila

Quote from: Amazon D on June 01, 2011, 07:45:44 PM
I was the classic gay hater. I could barely be around them but my sister had one as a friend so i had to with him. He knew to not even get close to me or else i would have punched him

And now you are a woman? HA! Oh no... you transistioned back right?
How femine is it to feel this way about gay males.

The poll is interesting... Shows that the majority of transwoman were indeed normal functioning straight males.
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Amazon D

Quote from: Sibila on November 20, 2011, 05:59:25 AM
And now you are a woman? HA! Oh no... you transistioned back right?
How femine is it to feel this way about gay males.

The poll is interesting... Shows that the majority of transwoman were indeed normal functioning straight males.

Well if thats your opinion of straight males then your right... I suppose all those gay males who get surgery and freak out later because they got rid of their pinky are morewomanthanus    lol

PS: No i didn't transition back i just dress much more casually like a dyke and not like a femme queen .. I am comfortable with myself  ::)
Besides its not about how others see me its how i see myself  ;)
I'm an Amazon womyn + very butch + respecting MWMF since 1999 unless invited. + I AM A HIPPIE

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Pippa

I think the first thing to say is that we all come from different backgrounds.  I have never seen myself as gay and to be honest, I have never been attracted to men.  However, I wasn't attracted to women either.  As a child I was bullied horrendously (sending out the wrong signals probably) and that has affected my relations with others greatly.  I find it hard to trust others and making friends is extremely difficult.  Not being able to be true to myself hasn't helped either.  Often, rather than not trusting others, I am over trusting and I think some people think I am a bit odd (little do they know).

I have had comments from some people that I must be gay, but I just don't feel that way.  When I am finally female, I would love a relationship but it is not that high on my agenda.  Prehaps it's mild asbergers?

I do see a difference between MTF's and FTM's.  MTF's often try to be the most masculine person on the planet, hence the number of us who choose tough professions like the military or the police.   We try to hard.

The few FTM's I meet always seem to have transitioned from the status of a lesbian, the extreme girliness factor doesn't seem to happen.  I know this is probably a stereotype but it is my experience
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Amazon D

In  few weeks i'll be 14 yrs post op and still a virgin and celibate because its always been about identity and not sexuality..
I'm an Amazon womyn + very butch + respecting MWMF since 1999 unless invited. + I AM A HIPPIE

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Miniar

Quote from: Sibila on November 20, 2011, 05:59:25 AM
The poll is interesting... Shows that the majority of transwoman were indeed normal functioning straight males.

Errr....

Define "normal" and define "functioning" and finally, considering that a trans woman is a woman and always has been a woman regardless to where she is in transition... how exactly would a trans woman in a relationship with any other woman be something that could be called a straight male?

I'd think that their presence here, not to mention seeking out any form of transition, would kind of prove you wrong.
That they weren't "normal straight males" nor that they could function as straight males, at least not forever, as they never were "normal straight males".

If you catch my drift.



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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Felix

Well and also, Sibila, you're talking like there aren't any guys here. The poll wasn't gender-specific.
everybody's house is haunted
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