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Suporn's FailureS ..... Who else?

Started by Nickie_66, May 23, 2011, 03:11:00 AM

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Nickie_66

Quote from: AbracaDebra on October 11, 2011, 12:56:56 PMWhat are your thoughts on what you want to do?

well i have many projects about the community, but they are mostly revolving around my french blog, for that suporn issue, wich is international, i don't know,

i think it would be good to create something like a results/testimonial archive, wich would be anonymous of course, but who would be a time archive, then you could see the progresses, or laziness of surgeons over time, or even have various stats about satisfaction and stuff, pretty much like EBAY sellers have ratings :)

but i'm very aware that finding so many testimonials would be quite a task .....



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(Actually, I am going to contact a friend (who actually is a member here) whose opinion I would like on this if that's ok)
no problem, the only purpose of the password on the file is to avoid those pictures to be found by anybody who would ignore the story and background of it and taken out of context, so i'll be happy to hear your friend's opinion ;)
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Heidi52

Nickie, fwiw, I am very sorry for your result. The image with the corpus cavernosa visibly bulging out was very unsettling. I've never seen a result like that, that bulge is just not right. But what also unsettles me, is the apparent lack of communication between Sophie and Dr. Suporn about your CC bulge, pre-revision. That was a largely wasted trip for you, since your primary issue was left untouched. I can understand Sophie being upset at viewing a thread titled the way this one is, but her replies to you are shockingly unprofessional. Especially with her twisting your urologist's question into "asking Suporn how to fix it" and the Bill Gates comparison.

What scares me about Sophie's replies to you, is that, as the sole contact person, the sole "admin" for the Suporn Clinc, she is essentially a gatekeeper. There is no one else you can go through, to get to Dr. Suporn, to communicate with him. So, if you upset Sophie, apparently she can simply tell you, that you are blocked from any future support or revisions, revisions that Suporn himself guaranteed you (and me). Far from "envious", I would have been hysterical, or at least depressed and upset, if I had had an outcome like what I saw in your pictures (especially IMGs 1929 and 1962!), which thankfully I did not.

I am now just about six months post-op from Dr. Suporn. I had a wonderful experience with him and his staff. Aey, Jib, and the rest of the hostess team were engaging, responsive, and compassionate. Suporn's clinical nursing staff were extremely competent during my minor in-house revision at two weeks post-op. In all my interactions with her, Sophie was never anything but pleasant, professional, and caring. Suporn, while often busy, seemed to have enough time to see me both in Aikchol and at the clinic, regularly, during my recovery. My surgery, hospital, and hotel stay, where all fairly routine (the hospital nurses generally gave me much stronger stuff than paracetamol when I asked ;) ).

I suffered no complications during, or six months after, the operation. I experienced no "degradation" of services while there (just friendly, supportive, and responsive staff), and have no complaints about anything relating to my Chonburi experience. If I had to do it again, I would go back to the Suporn Clinic in a heartbeat, unhesitatingly.

Quote from: AbracaDebra on October 09, 2011, 08:44:38 PM
So is it possible he has got better at it over the last couple of years ?

Most of the girls that preceded me, and came after me, were similarly pleased, if not ecstatic, at their outcomes. For myself, I am simply amazed and gratified at how functional, sensitive, and cosmetically normal-looking my result has so far turned out. In my admittedly biased opinion, my new vagina is superior in appearance than most results I have seen in images and in person from other surgeons, including Suporn. With their penchant for tossing out the useful bits that were used to make my vagina and labia, I have no doubt that none of the UK or NA surgeons could have given me the detail, depth, and overall cosmetic appearance I received from Dr. Suporn.

To anyone else considering Dr. Suporn, may I suggest that Nickie's result is far from "typical" of his work. Just because she had a post-op issue, is no guarantee that you will. It just seems odd to me, that Suporn would not fix it for you, while a urologist could? I think Sophie owes you an apology for her lack of professionalism. I can only imagine how upset you must be. I hope you are able to get a resolution to your problem, Nickie.



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Kristyn

Quote from: Heidi52 on October 11, 2011, 06:16:21 PM




I am now just about six months post-op from Dr. Suporn. I had a wonderful experience with him and his staff. Aey, Jib, and the rest of the hostess team were engaging, responsive, and compassionate. Suporn's clinical nursing staff were extremely competent during my minor in-house revision at two weeks post-op. In all my interactions with her, Sophie was never anything but pleasant, professional, and caring. Suporn, while often busy, seemed to have enough time to see me both in Aikchol and at the clinic, regularly, during my recovery. My surgery, hospital, and hotel stay, where all fairly routine (the hospital nurses generally gave me much stronger stuff than paracetamol when I asked ;) ).

I suffered no complications during, or six months after, the operation. I experienced no "degradation" of services while there (just friendly, supportive, and responsive staff), and have no complaints about anything relating to my Chonburi experience. If I had to do it again, I would go back to the Suporn Clinic in a heartbeat, unhesitatingly.

Most of the girls that preceded me, and came after me, were similarly pleased, if not ecstatic, at their outcomes. For myself, I am simply amazed and gratified at how functional, sensitive, and cosmetically normal-looking my result has so far turned out. In my admittedly biased opinion, my new vagina is superior in appearance than most results I have seen in images and in person from other surgeons, including Suporn. With their penchant for tossing out the useful bits that were used to make my vagina and labia, I have no doubt that none of the UK or NA surgeons could have given me the detail, depth, and overall cosmetic appearance I received from Dr. Suporn.

To anyone else considering Dr. Suporn, may I suggest that Nickie's result is far from "typical" of his work. Just because she had a post-op issue, is no guarantee that you will. It just seems odd to me, that Suporn would not fix it for you, while a urologist could? I think Sophie owes you an apology for her lack of professionalism. I can only imagine how upset you must be. I hope you are able to get a resolution to your problem, Nickie.

That's great and we are all so happy for YOU!  YAY!  Look at you!   :) :) :) :)  Happpy Happy Joy Joy!

I don't think your commentary on how great your results and results of others does anything except rub salt in Nickies wounds.  This is about her and the unpleasant results she suffered from what appears to be a rather unprofessional surgeon.  If you want to tout the merits of Dr Suporn as a surgeon and brag about how great your results are then perhaps you should start a thread on it. ;D



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Nickie_66

Quote from: Heidi52 on October 11, 2011, 06:16:21 PM
I experienced no "degradation" of services while there (just friendly, supportive, and responsive staff), and have no complaints about anything relating to my Chonburi experience. If I had to do it again, I would go back to the Suporn Clinic in a heartbeat, unhesitatingly.

the degradations i was talking about were over years,
as i've been to the clinic last year and this year, i could see that there was just slighly less services, if you talk to someone who had surgery with suporn some years ago, they'll tell you many stories that can't happen anymore, there are less outside trips etc
even the hotel is just barely a shadow of what it used to be , but of course the clinic isn't responsible for that, it just participates in the "degradation" mood you experience when you go there again after some time ....


of course the staff is great, and Aey and Jib are there since quite some years so they are not participating in the loss of quality of course :)
but i keep hearing stories of catheter difficulties from the hospital nurses (not the clinic staff fortunately)



QuoteTo anyone else considering Dr. Suporn, may I suggest that Nickie's result is far from "typical" of his work.

your testimony is good,
it's quite puzzling me , because i have no way to explain my result, but yeah, if ALL Suporn patients were like me, he would already be out of business i believe, and he is not, so hopefully i'm rare ,

but not knowing why it happened with me, then who else can it happen to ?



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Jacelyn

In my opinion, this could be due to suporn's technique versus a longer penile length, the extra length of the penile flap, probably due to it being longer, to retain the more sensate skin near the head, it is not cut away, this longer flap is being saved and covered the clitoris more fully, this is actually better sensate wise. There seems to be tendency of the neo vagina's lips to sink over time, especially in the case of the penile flap inversion technique, having the extra tissue ensure that never occurred. I think the same  done in the asian trans women due to more skin elasticity would make the lips look fuller and more pleasing (nature).
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Flan

as a future surgeon, after reviewing it, I would consider it (the pictures) completely unacceptable results and function wise. correcting that looks like a pain because of desire to retain nerve function (as well as dealing with excess labia minora skin) but a reconstructive urological surgeon should be able to hack it.
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Guantanamera

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I'm wondering if you would be okay with pm'ing me the password Nickie? I work at an IT department for a college, but I can't seem to find a way to pm you, I keep on getting an access denied error whenever I click on your profile. My guess is that I need a certain number of posts to be able to PM people ;)

If Nickie isn't active on this board anymore/doesn't mind can someone post the password for me? I assure you that I'm a creeper or a pervert or anything like that. I'm just extremely interested in SRS results. (Especially stuff that isn't posted on surgeon's websites.)
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Nickie_66

i am active yup, but gimme a break guys, i had my correction with Dr Djodjevic 2 days ago :p


the team told me "we don't get it, you had like a whole penis left"

they have removed 8 centimeters of corpora cavernosa and corrected what could be according to the new context :D

i'm now out of the hospital already, i can walk short distances, i'm not taking any painkillers but there are some positions that are totally painless, i'm pretty amazed; the surgeon described my surgery as "not very invasive" ...
so from today, i'll have a roomate in the appartment, he was already in the hospital when i arrived in serbia, and stayed long because he had a "really big surgery" i don't even wanna imagine what was done to him :O :O


so i'm quietly recovering now, and i'll be home next week :)



Wavooka: i had the same problem as you, you need 15 posts to PM people, yes it's pretty unique but that's the way it is :)
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Kristyn

Quote from: Nickie_66 on October 30, 2011, 01:46:02 AM



the team told me "we don't get it, you had like a whole penis left"

they have removed 8 centimeters of corpora cavernosa and corrected what could be according to the new context :D



WTF?????  Glad to hear it all went well.   :)
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Guantanamera

I'm glad to hear your revision went really awesome. It's pretty funny to me that you went to a Serbian to fix the problem created by the Taiwanese haha, then again I don't know the whole politics of grs.

As for your question, I'm certainly not Sophie (That is, I try not to be too condescending.) I just prefer to lurk rather than post. Being practically pre-everything I'm not sure that I have any thing better to add.

I hope your recovery goes great, and that you'll tell us all about your success!
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Suigeniris

Wow Nickie ;))) I am SOO very hapoy for you XXOOXOXO HEAL WELL SISTER
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Nickie_66

Quote from: Wavooka on October 31, 2011, 12:14:19 AM

As for your question, I'm certainly not Sophie (That is, I try not to be too condescending.)

just kidding :p

i know she's lurking too tho :D


anyway sure i'll tell you how it goes, for the moment it's still difficult, i can walk a bit better each day but not enough to go out yet, today i finally had a bowel movement and went to the toilet with my compression bandage, and could figure how bloody hard that is T_T

and i do mean "bloody" :/


aaah, put me to sleep during 2 months!
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Flan

Quote from: Wavooka on October 31, 2011, 12:14:19 AM
I'm glad to hear your revision went really awesome. It's pretty funny to me that you went to a Serbian to fix the problem created by the Taiwanese ...
Suporn is a Thai surgeon, the surgeons who perform reassignment in China/Taiwan are pretty secretive of their work (in the sense of visibility to western trans people).

(I have a couple names but haven't really confirmed they are in a gender identity program in practitioner side)
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Debra


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Aelita

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umop ap!sdn

Glad to hear you got it fixed! :)

It's been my experience that Sophie will argue with you about your own body. That she would offer "personal opinion" and accuse other surgeons of lying doesn't surprise me. Aside from my issues with closing up, I too have numb spots and inner labia that protrude out from between outer labia. And I have granulation tissue that recurred after my third surgery that's causing me pain when I sit. You have my sympathies.
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Guantanamera

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Quote from: Dàwkbua on November 03, 2011, 10:00:11 PM
It's been my experience that Sophie will argue with you about your own body. That she would offer "personal opinion" and accuse other surgeons of lying doesn't surprise me. Aside from my issues with closing up, I too have numb spots and inner labia that protrude out from between outer labia. And I have granulation tissue that recurred after my third surgery that's causing me pain when I sit. You have my sympathies.

*Shudder* SRS sounds so scary.
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umop ap!sdn

Most people have a good result, so it shouldn't be scary. Once in a while something goes wrong.

I was just thinking too, does anyone else have places they basically can't touch because they're still sore even after more than a year?
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Guantanamera

Quote from: Dàwkbua on November 04, 2011, 11:41:12 AM
Most people have a good result, so it shouldn't be scary. Once in a while something goes wrong.

I was just thinking too, does anyone else have places they basically can't touch because they're still sore even after more than a year?

Is it a function of soreness or hypersensitivity?
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umop ap!sdn

Soreness. It hurts to touch there. It's funny because before my revision the soreness was on the right side and now it's on the left.
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