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Some examples of ignorance towards those that are different.

Started by Megan Joanne, June 03, 2011, 09:59:44 PM

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Megan Joanne

A few months ago, one of my younger coworkers, works customer service, I'm over at the register in electronics, she comes all the way over, I see this very eager look on her face as if she has something very important and gossip like to tell me, anyway she was all smiles, she was having trouble containing what she couldn't wait to tell me. So after the customer in my line leaves, she tells me about the one she had over in customer service, that it was a dude dressed up like a woman. I look at her like serious, and say, "So, and, how do you know this?" She's like "Because it was, I know it, I tell you, it was, I bet my whole paycheck on it!" I ask her, "You sure about that? You all of a sudden become an expert on it, that you can tell so easily, because you could lose a paycheck." She just smiles and laughs, really giddy like, and I just shake my head at her silly ignorance. She had not a clue that she's talking to one of those that she is poking fun at, which I found very amusing yet sad.

And this was the same young lady that last year along with another coworker, a manager at that, were making fun of some possible gay guys that were shopping because they were very flamboyant acting, they we both laughing and I asked them what was so funny. So they told me to look at those guys way over there, in the women's section, I said, "What's so funny about them.", They replied, "They're gay!" O-kay, so this is how this town finds excitement, some different kind of people come into town and its like the circus done rolled in. So the manager one asks me, "Don't you find that funny Megan." I said, "No." She asked, "Why not?", "Look how they're acting!" I told her that they are really, really sheltered, that they apparently have never been to any city. I get along well with both of these coworkers, but it seems all they're used to here is white and black and an occasional hispanic, everything else is alien, which is a real shame.

Another time, last year, another coworker of mine, well this couple, a guy and girl was walking out, both were dressed in motorcycle leathers, their hair was a little bit punky, different colors and whatnot, but nothing over the top, to me they looked fine, a decent cute looking couple, and after they walk out, she shakes her head and replies, "Freak show." And I was thinking, over what? There wasn't anything freaky about them to me, just looked like typical young people to me. Yet again another example of how judgmental people can be with those that are just even slightly different than they are.

And what brought me to make this topic, which also reminded me of the few other times someone here got stupid over somebody way out of their ordinary. Yesterday at work one of my coworkers, this being another woman that works there, she gets my attention whispering over to me, she's at the service desk, I'm in at the register nearest by to it. So, having such poor hearing, I step closer to her, and she asks me "You see that customer that was just up here?" I say no. She says, "Well, I don't know of that was a man or a woman!" I shrug, thinking, here we go again, these poor damn sheltered people I work with. So she continues to say stuff, Its dressed like a guy, but looks like a woman to me.", "I mean, how am I supposed to address this customer, sir or ma'am, or what!?", "I mean come on, you are either one or the other, get it right." I tell her, "What does it matter, people are people, so long as they're decent that's all I care about." And she gives what I take as false agreement with her body and facial gestures, guess she was hoping that I'd go along with her ignorance in agreement. She was really uneasy about not knowing, it really bothered the hell out of her, pretty f'ed up, but that's how it is it seems with most people. Anyway, customer came back in, back to her counter, I caught a few second glimpse, customer was dressed in guy clothing, was tall, skinny, had hard edges to his (or her) face, yet at the same time had a slight femininity to those features, but what do I care, I don't, never been a curious person anyway, went back to doing my job. Anyway, refering to this customer as a guy, he went back to shopping, looking around in the men's sections, later coming back up to the service desk, must've had an exchange or something. Personally, this person could've gone either way, male or female and it would work, but maybe those features are born to him (or her), can't be helped, but if not and perhaps transsexual, again, so what.
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Kelly J. P.


I feel a little silly saying this, but I've never actually seen a person like you described. I haven't really socialized with a huge number of people, but I've also never seen people make a big deal out of other people being different. Thankfully, the "different" people are either fairly ignored, or admired, which is a lot better than being at the center of someone's negative attention!

... I love people that like to be different. They colour the world.

It's just unfortunate that some people don't share that. I think I can understand most people, but I'm having a hard time understanding why people are afraid of people being different from the classical normalities...

If the situation was right, I would like to have a talk with whoever was calling someone else a "freak" or something. That kind of behaviour is childish, and a bit shortsighted! I can think of both creation-friendly and evolutionary-type approaches to explaining why the world is a better place with the weirdos in it...

And in return, maybe I could understand why people don't like diversity.

The world is getting better, though, one day at a time...
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Janet_Girl

When I was working at Lowes, several times one of two Transwomen would come in.  These poor gals did there best to pass, but they were short of the mark.  And the girls on the front end would see them.  The girls would come up to me and start in about "OMG. Did you see that customer?"  :o

What was really funny is after I came out, the girls would come to me, saying the same thing and stop.  They would look at me a minute and stop in mid sentence and say "Never mind".  The "OMG" statements ended.  And all it took was for them to actually met a transwoman face to face.

These Transwomen really tried to pass and I just wanted to give them a hug for going on with life and just being themselves.  Those gals have really chutzpah.  And I mean that is the very nicest way.
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Vicky

The job I am just retiring from was with a government agency, and we did have customers or clients that were transgendered in any or all directions that can mean.  The reactions of the new employees we had to their first TG client was an absolute nervous breakdown to them, because indeed they had been "sheltered" in many senses of the word.  We did have people that had been in their positions for many years, and to them, advising a post transition girl or boy about issues that had been pre-transition and flipping between the appropriate names, pronouns and titles did not at first help the newest employees, but after the new people got the idea that the work controlled the situation, not the personality, they usually handled TG client #2 with only a mild case of the shakes after the person left the office.  I am happy to say that some of them actually got compliments from the TG clients, including one that described how our counter person (who was shaking like a leaf after the contact) had so much put the TG person at ease when she had been totally un-nerved by being in our office.  (We were a tax office, so she darn well had a reason to be scared >:-) )

In spite of the good stuff up front, we had our losers in the back end-- I came out three months before my last day at work, as part of getting my unit used to the idea I was retiring, and had  multiple changes in my life coming, just as my leaving was a major change in their lives.  My group was great about finally understanding why I looked a bit weird at the end.  The problem came from one of the people from another group in the office who thought they were in line to be a supervisor when I left, she tried to tell people that I should be fired immediately on morals grounds, and that I was essentially harassing her since I had showed my group pictures of me that are posted here in a couple of places.  She had never seen the pictures which added to my amusement.  My supervisor (who will NOT be hiring this person in my place) let Missy Prissy know that at our workplace, my gender status was protected, but that her poor work performance coupled with her intolerance and her attempt to foist religious sensibilities in a place where separation of church and state is absolute, was going to make them miss her if she kept it up.    >:-)
I refuse to have a war of wits with a half armed opponent!!

Wiser now about Post Op reality!!
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Caith

I present as male on a nearly full-time basis :( although my hair has now grown long past my collar, and my bosoms are apparent.  Most people pay me absolutely no mind, but a woman at breakfast this morning was just staring at me the whole time the wife and I walked into the restaurant.  She was in her mid-to-late 50s at the youngest, and I am almost 53.  I know better than to provide them the satisfaction of any kind of reaction or response, but continued thinking of how best (if at all) to say something.  It was only after we left the restaurant I realized I should have asked her, "Didn't your parents ever teach you it's impolite to stare?".  It's the perfect comeback for someone who is old enough to know better, and apparently enjoys looking down her nose (disapprovingly, for you youngsters) at the slightest variation from her idea of normal. 

FYI, it didn't really bother me, what bothered me most was containing my desire to actively confront her.  I actually feel sorry for someone like her, who still hasn't woken up to the reality of the 21st century.
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Amazon D

Since i have been dressing in male clothes people are saying is that all sir and i would tell them i am legally female and then they look closely at me and say opps and then i say they should not use gender expressions and just say is that all because they could make a customer upset. Most seem to understand. The world needs to not use gender expressions in my view when it comes to service calls customers etc.. unless one knows for sure. Many times people thank me
I'm an Amazon womyn + very butch + respecting MWMF since 1999 unless invited. + I AM A HIPPIE

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