I seem to be physically incapable of using a medicine spoon without getting more urine outside than through it no matter how many times I try. I give an attempt, stop, adjust it, give it another attempt, stop, etc. until I end up giving up. So far I've had absolutely no luck. I'd love to be able to use an stp at an actual toilet. Anyone have any tips or suggestions on better alternatives for those of us who are urinarily challenged?