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Quote from: big kim on Today at 01:05:45 AMCornish pasty

I am tempted to have one for breakfast one day soon!

Probably always transgender.  We would hope we would continue to grow in many ways.

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Hi Starryskyy

You said in your post above:

Quote from: Starryskyy on Yesterday at 10:37:16 PMYou know what makes me really mentally ill? Growing up like this and the trauma of being violated again and again in attempts to change me. I have much younger spent too much time thinking I just had to try harder because you know men need to try to be men right?

I'm sorry to hear that you were violated. No one deserves to be treated like that.

The text that I have emphasised in what you wrote is one of the most salient points that kept crossing my mind,  I did not like what men did to women, it actually disgusted me no end and I did not want to be like them.

Quote from: Starryskyy on Yesterday at 10:37:16 PMAll that conversion therapy was really the equivalent of throwing a fish at a tree and wondering why it won't climb.

They tried to use conversion therapy on gays and it did not work out either.

Quote from: Starryskyy on Yesterday at 10:37:16 PMMaybe care in the future if mankind could just get over the fact that gender and the underlying genetic components of it are not as simple as many want to believe would get even more advanced and effective.

There was one thing that I knew at some stage and that was, nature stuffed up.  I was very naive when I changed my life around and it was the lack of knowledge and information that I had to deal with at the time.

There is nothing wrong with us Period, it is those, who say we are and then try to fix or correct our way of thinking, not realising that in certain circumstances you cannot fix nature.

Quote from: Starryskyy on Yesterday at 10:37:16 PMWhat makes me the most sick is when cases with unfortunate results of ruthless abuse are used to go "See look how mentally ill and sickly they are!". Maybe if I was given the actual care I needed when it mattered I wouldn't be so messed up and chronically ill right now!

Once again I'm so sorry to hear that you were violated. You are not mentally sick and its those who perpetrate violence on others that are sick perversely so.  Its also good to hear that you are seeking help with your issues.

Susan's has a place where one can talk in real time and if you want you can have private conversations with other members if you so wish.  The link is: Susan's Discord Channel.

In addition there is list of resources, that should you need one.  Then you can find out more by visiting those websites.

Here are some resources if you need them. Transgender Help Links

Take care and if you want to talk or vent then you can do it here and we will listen.

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Sarah B
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This is interesting and something I have thought about.

I have no intention of changing my birth certificate, school records, military records, college transcripts, etc. I see those as historical documents that were accurate at that time. I was that person, but I am not now.

Since I am still transitioning I identify as trans. But I wonder if post-op me would still identify that way or would I just be a woman? I honestly don't know! I suspect that I will still identify as trans because there is always something more to do. Since I started late in life, I doubt I will get it all "done" in this lifetime.

I am reading some news stories, about trans legislation.. and just wondering.. do you ever move past the 'trans' label?..

humour me here.. I am 'trying' to be naive about this..   

I mean, if you have lived in a gender, name and identity for a number of years.. are you still 'trans'?..

as one accepted definition of trans* is "denoting or relating to a person whose gender identity does not correspond with the sex registered for them at birth;"  - but once you have had your birth certificate corrected.. is that then the essential definition of cis.. you are living in the gender assigned at birth (assigned on your birth certificate)...  and so, that means all this legislation is only relevant for a few small years of someone's actual transition?

The whole thing with words that start with trans.. is about moving from one to another.. or 'transition'. (like transport, transmission etc.) so, that would adequately describe the process we go through, but not the end result. If I send a package, it is being transported.. but it is not a trans-package when it gets to the destination. If I use my philosophers stone and transmute lead into gold.. it transmutes, and could be called trans-lead. or trans gold.. in the process.. but the end result (I promise you) is pure gold..

I will add a nod to non-binary folk here.. sorry, I am not including you and your struggles in all this and I realise trans* is a big umbrella - I guess I am really talking about transsexual, binary, people. People who go through a process to emerge at the other end, better for their journey. Happier and more fulfilled. Those people for which the 'process' stops... and life just continues on.

Interested to hear peoples views on this.