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Title: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on January 06, 2024, 09:20:25 AM
  It's so hard to pick up and move forward knowing all my former history at Susan's is gone. A little history.
     61 years old, living in north western NJ. Have a small farm and 2 horses. Also run a small home improvement company with a couple of employees.
    Came out as trans MTF, in June 22 to my wife and a few friends. Circle grew and by Feb 23, I was out 100%. Started HRT on 8-25-22. Went through the usual thinning of skin, breast growth, greatly reduced muscle mass and strength. Lost weight, gained most of it back, trying to loose it again. Dam holidays! Hands and feet cold all the time now. Working hard on my voice which is very hard, even after a lot of professional training. I train every day but quickly forget and go back to my old voice when in conversation.
    Coming out at a mature age was a bit challenging especially when living in the same small town all my life and now 61. I also own and run my own small business where my customers all know me by my male name. Been married to a wonderful wife for 35 years. How she is coping with this is beyond me. Almost all the people I have told and felt with have been very kind and understanding. If they say anything negative its behind my back and quite frankly who cares what they think.
     I grew up in the 60-70s where parents felt a good spanking/beating would fix all my problems. I had a control freak mother who criticized everything from don't sit with your legs together, every body posture meant something, come your hair this way, wear these clothes, etc.. You don't want to be like 'THEM' do you? Always watching through a crack in the door to see what I was doing. It's amazing how much pain those early years effect, us the rest of our lives. Even writing this brings back many bad memories. Nuff said.
     More about me. I love horseback ridding and own 2 horses which I love trail ridding whenever my wife and I get the chance. Fishing is another love which I don't get to as much as I would like. Something about being out in the woods or on the water that's good for the soul.
      Transitioning: Started counseling before coming out, which helped greatly. HRT through an Endocrinologist. Have my bottom surgery, (vaginoplasty) scheduled for June 12 with Dr. Keith. Having hair removal for that done now. Having some hemeroids banded and fixed now per plastic surgeons advice. And in the process of getting the official name change done with a Feb date before the judge. So that's my life in a nutshell.
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Post by: davina61 on January 06, 2024, 12:50:11 PM
Nice to see you back dear, must do a potted intro in my blog.
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Post by: Courtney G on January 06, 2024, 01:19:50 PM
Hey, Gina. Nice start to the new blog. In a few months, it will be many pages long and we'll probably forget about the "crash."
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Post by: REM.1126 on January 06, 2024, 11:50:23 PM
I am glad for the recap.  Over the time I have been here, I have gotten a little muddied in my memory of everyone's background.  I think I have mixed some stories and people up. 
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Post by: imallie on January 07, 2024, 01:28:47 AM
I do think that it's nice that we're all doing these recaps. As an admitted comic nerd, it's akin to all the title relaunches the big companies do... hoping that by taking established characters and starting over with a new issue #1 will attract new readers.  ;D
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Post by: Oldandcreaky on January 07, 2024, 08:34:11 AM
Quote from: Gina P on January 06, 2024, 09:20:25 AMI grew up in the 60-70s where parents felt a good spanking/beating would fix all my problems. I had a control freak mother who criticized everything from don't sit with your legs together, every body posture meant something, come your hair this way, wear these clothes, etc.. You don't want to be like 'THEM' do you? Always watching through a crack in the door to see what I was doing. It's amazing how much pain those early years effect, us the rest of our lives. Even writing this brings back many bad memories.

Sweet Athena, that's brutal, Gina. B-R-U-T-A-L. I too struggled to move and sit like a boy. I collected doilies and rhinestones in a cigar box. A cigar box is the perfect place to hide your feminine self. Anyway, back to you: Your childhood reminds me of one of those creepy black and white movies where a woman turns a home into Hell on Earth.
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Post by: Oldandcreaky on January 07, 2024, 08:37:49 AM
Quote from: Gina P on January 06, 2024, 09:20:25 AMSomething about being out in the woods or on the water that's good for the soul.

The woods and water are also perfect cover for a boy who's actually a girl. In the woods and on the water, there isn't anyone expecting you to behave like a boy, but when you're in the woods and on the water, everyone thinks you're behaving exactly like a boy.
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Post by: Oldandcreaky on January 07, 2024, 08:39:36 AM
Quote from: Gina P on January 06, 2024, 09:20:25 AMAlways watching through a crack in the door to see what I was doing.

^This^ is so twisted. She was the antithesis of what a mother should be.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on January 07, 2024, 10:57:50 AM


    Yes she was a bit of a freak who felt I never did anything of merit. Even after starting my own company and having over 1/2 million in sales, she said you just fell into that. As if I hadn't done anything. Built my own house, with my own hands, electric, plumbing, roof and everything else in between, nothing special. Built a 2 story horse barn, again no big deal. Learned to fix equipment, rebuild car and truck/ tractor motors, no big deal to her. Built and paid for a large gazebo for thier anniversary  15 x15, she wanted arch trim pieces added. Installed a new heating system and zoned the heat in thier home. Put a new motor in dads truck, replaced the clutch in thier car, built a nice brick sidewalk with a garden arch in thier front yard. The list goes on and on. Then before she died, she changes her will to give the lazy granddaughter the farm. Too much pain here. 
   Sorry I'm just venting. Its one of those emotional days. I really should just move to another state. Far, far away. Thanks O & C and the rest for being understanding.
Gina

Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Oldandcreaky on January 07, 2024, 11:23:41 AM
Even after starting my own company and having over 1/2 million in sales.

Big deal.

Built my own house, with my own hands, electric, plumbing, roof and everything else in between.

Something special.

Built a 2 story horse barn.

Big deal.

Learned to fix equipment, rebuild car and truck/ tractor motors.

Big deal.

Built and paid for a large gazebo for their anniversary  15 x15, she wanted arch trim pieces added. Installed a new heating system and zoned the heat in their home. Put a new motor in dads truck, replaced the clutch in their car, built a nice brick sidewalk with a garden arch in their front yard.

Big deal. Big deal. Big deal. Big deal.

Then before she died, she changes her will to give the lazy granddaughter the farm. Too much pain here.

Shameful. I understand your pain. And I am ashamed of her and proud of you.
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Post by: Gina P on January 09, 2024, 05:46:48 AM
Thanks O & C for an understanding ear(eyes). Afraid I over did it yesterday moving some stuff out of the my mom's barn to my shop. Last night my bad hip decided to let me know I had overdone it, and I couldn't walk to the bedroom. I have a crutch in the basement but navigating the steps is a bit scary when I can barely walk. I opened my mouth a few days ago about how even though the doctors said it needs replacement I haven't had a lot of pain lately. I should learn to keep my mouth shut.
I have another appointment with the proctologist today to band another hemeroid. The plastic surgeon doing my bottom surgery asked that they be fixed before the big day. It's a pain in the but but needs to be done.
Gina
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Post by: davina61 on January 09, 2024, 06:52:38 AM
I feel for you dear, had to climb in the Austin to reach some fixings and after grovelling on the floor as well my left leg is refusing to work correctly. Just walked to the shop and I was glad to get back home and sit down
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Post by: Gina P on January 09, 2024, 11:03:42 AM
   I took a couple of Motrin this morning and struggled down to the basement to retrieve the crutch. It helped till the Motrin kicked in. Feeling much better now and able to walk. Last night the pain was so intense I was getting sick to my stomach.
   It is that time of year when the Snow Geese are hear in great numbers. We are on one of the wintering grounds where thousands congregate. It is so amazing to see the sky filled with thousands as they fly from a local reservoir to feed in the local farm fields. when they are feeding the sound is deafening and can be heard for miles.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: REM.1126 on January 09, 2024, 04:45:47 PM
Getting old is hard.  I am right there with you, going through similar pains. 

If you need a hip, I'd say go for it.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: TXSara on January 10, 2024, 05:29:41 AM
Quote from: Oldandcreaky on January 07, 2024, 11:23:41 AMEven after starting my own company and having over 1/2 million in sales.

Big deal.

Built my own house, with my own hands, electric, plumbing, roof and everything else in between.

Something special.

Built a 2 story horse barn.

Big deal.

Learned to fix equipment, rebuild car and truck/ tractor motors.

Big deal.

Built and paid for a large gazebo for their anniversary  15 x15, she wanted arch trim pieces added. Installed a new heating system and zoned the heat in their home. Put a new motor in dads truck, replaced the clutch in their car, built a nice brick sidewalk with a garden arch in their front yard.

Big deal. Big deal. Big deal. Big deal.

Then before she died, she changes her will to give the lazy granddaughter the farm. Too much pain here.

Shameful. I understand your pain. And I am ashamed of her and proud of you.

I started to respond to your post, but O&C (like always) says it better than I ever could have.  All of those things are a big deal, and you should be really proud of yourself and your accomplishments.  I'm sorry that she never seemed to acknowledge any of it.

Hugs,

~Sara
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on January 10, 2024, 05:53:39 AM
Quote from: REM.1126 on January 09, 2024, 04:45:47 PMGetting old is hard.  I am right there with you, going through similar pains. 

If you need a hip, I'd say go for it.
Thanks Rachael,
I do need a hip. I have went for cortisone shots and have been trying different meds. Since bottom surgery is only 5 months away and they will be putting me in a position that would not be good for a new hip, it will have to wait. I just over did it and it is already getting less painful. As my strength diminishes I find it easier and easier to overdue it and pull or strain something.
Sarah,
   Many times growing up it was take your punishment like a man or run and hide. I did a lot of both. Time to rise above nit now.
Hugs Gina
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on January 13, 2024, 08:22:17 AM
  I had another round of hair removal for my upcoming bottom surgery. The technician said she was amazed that I never flinched. Honestly I didn't thing it was that painful. I had her do my hair below my belly button as well. The skin feels so soft now its amazing. I will have to start getting some done on other parts soon, as I'm so impressed with the results.

   At work: I was forced to relieve my wife of some of her duties with the business after making another big mistake. One of many. I have been forced to assume much of her duties which add a lot of work and stress to my life. I work so hard to save a buck where ever I can then she just drops $3500 in one oops. Some days I feel so emotional I wish I could just cry but I am not able to.

   I had my counseling last night which always helps. I have stretched out the period to only once a month which is not nearly enough. I am in the process of getting my official name change. One of the forms has to be mailed at least 20 days prior to the hearing. I have been trying to mail it for over a month and every time I start looking for an envelope all heck breaks loose and I put it off for another day. Yesterday was no exception except it was 20 days till the court date. Dog goes nuts and starts barking, phone rings, no stamps... I finally went to the post office and mailed it though.

   I must have the best customer base in the world. A customer who I hadn't seen in a while says hello but the look on his face showed the confusion. After I finished my work I told him I was now Gina. I was met with congratulations and then, "No sense DICKING around get it done and be happy" We both had a good laugh at his choice of words.
Gina
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on January 15, 2024, 05:45:58 AM
I had my trans group meeting Saturday night. A different person ran the meeting which made for a much lighter and very fun meeting. I had not been to a meeting since October and many were amazed at how great I looked. It was so uplifting. Seeing myself daily it is hard to see the changes until you look back. I came home feeling great. I open my email Sunday morning and there is the lawyers motion for reimbursement. Then all the bad memories come crashing down on me and I go into a crash. Blow my diet and eat, eat. I also look at places to move to. Dreaming of leaving all this behind. 
I was able to fix my boiler Sunday before the cold snap hits. A zone valve had broke and reduced how much heat went into the living room. In the afternoon I cut some fire wood. Heating my home with only firewood saves me a lot of money but requires a great deal of time cutting and feeding the wood.
Gina
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Post by: Maid Marion on January 15, 2024, 06:21:57 AM
Hi Gina,

Sorry to hear about the money troubles.

I am very lucky that our family is wealthy enough to give away real estate to charity and let them deal with it!  We have no kids and that would have happened anyway.  So why not do it now and save ourselves the hassle?  Out of the box thinking that most people would not even consider. 

Marion
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Post by: Oldandcreaky on January 15, 2024, 06:55:31 AM
QuoteI open my email Sunday morning and there is the lawyers motion for reimbursement.

What does ^this^ mean, Gina?
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Post by: davina61 on January 15, 2024, 07:37:37 AM
Wood ,keeps you warm 3 times. When you chop it down, when you split it and when you burn it!!!
Try not to stress over things dear, it will be what it will be.
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Post by: Oldandcreaky on January 15, 2024, 08:49:36 AM
Lovely post, Davina.
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Post by: Gina P on January 16, 2024, 05:38:56 AM
Sorry I got in a hurry on my last post. I said the lawyer had petitioned the court for reimbursement. I have had a long standing, drawn out case challanging my later mothers 'Will'. I finally decided to stop after spending $60k on legal expenses. Every so often a new motion would be filed and I relive every bad memory from growing up. Nothing has changed and hopefully this one will refund all my money spent but it still sparks the old memories. 
Gina
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Post by: REM.1126 on January 16, 2024, 11:36:54 AM
I am saddened to hear the pain this has caused you.  I hope it is over now.
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Post by: Gina P on January 18, 2024, 05:47:08 AM
Another rough day. Judge denied the motion. Not totally unexpected since she has never been on our side. Good news is the lawyer wants to appeal and will do fee to be paid only if we win.
Plowed snow yesterday till the plow dropped a bolt on the pivot cylinder. Trip back to the shop to replace, no big deal. Spent a night, Tuesday, up most of the night with insomnia. So very tired all day. Battery finally quit in my work truck so off to the auto zone for a new one. Customer in front of me says take this guy first and points to me. I felt like opening my coat and saying do these tits look like they belong on a guy. Instead I just smiled. Temps have been running in the low teens here so a battery is expected.
Gina
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Maid Marion on January 18, 2024, 05:58:49 AM
Likely to be an honest mistake in a place like Autozone.
People there are undoubtedly tired and frustrated or they wouldn't be there!
They may even have gendered you correctly and thought "ladies first" but the wrong words came out.

You did the right thing by just smiling.

Marion
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: davina61 on January 18, 2024, 08:22:49 AM
Not used my motor since last Sat and -2C this morning, was a bit slow turning over but fired straight up. Trouble with modern cars is the battery draw when standing.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on January 18, 2024, 08:46:42 AM
Not bad for a 6-7 year old battery. I would think Chevy would make it easier to install. 1.5 hrs. to remove the air box, water bottle, fender brace, terminal block, battery clamp... All while there is an ample space not being used on the other side of the engine compartment. I think they do it on purpose to prevent the average Joe or Jill from doing any repairs.
Gina
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: davina61 on January 18, 2024, 10:30:50 AM
You sure its not French, sound like most French rubbish to me!!
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Post by: Gina P on January 22, 2024, 05:51:33 AM
Spent Saturday being lazy. Not like me but it was in the low teens and I didn't want to go outside. Sunday went out to breakfast at IHOP, then to Kohls to exchange a set of PJ's. The new ones are so soft, I just want to hug myself. Both places I was gendered correctly which always feels good. Some days I look in the mirror and the old guy looks back, other days I see Gina. The mind is a strange thing. 
 I spent most of the afternoon rebuilding the back of my plow truck. When plowing I had backed into a light pole and busted up the wood on the back, knocking out the brake lights. I had built a rack body out of wood for this truck several years ago. Never got around to putting in reverse lights so I made sure and added them this time.
I am now less than 5 months till bottom surgery, which seams like a long time away. I had some fun with a countdown app. seeing how many days or hours, min. seconds till then.
Gina 
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Post by: Courtney G on January 22, 2024, 10:16:02 AM
1. You deserve a little relaxation time. It's good for the body and the spirit
2. That surgery date will be here before you know it!
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Post by: Gina P on January 26, 2024, 03:31:55 PM
I did something i have never had the patience to do. I read a book and enjoyed it. My brain is finally calm enough that I can sit for hours on end and read. Before E I would always have to be occupied with something or doing something. I feel like I finally have a life.
Gina
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Post by: Iztaccihuatl on January 26, 2024, 04:10:49 PM
I love your new avatar! So pretty.
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Post by: Gina P on January 27, 2024, 07:06:30 AM
I was going through some old photos yesterday and came across this one. My hair was shorter then.
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Post by: Gina P on January 27, 2024, 07:21:47 AM
I was doing some shopping in Walmart last night when exiting the clerk always checks the receipt. Afterward she said thank you "mam". Not really being in the moment I quickly thought 'Mam', what? Oh that's right that's me now. Been full time almost a year and still muscle memory in my brain throws me a curve every now and then. It was one of those days, earlier I was working in a DPW building and used the rest room. I looked and there on the wall was a urinal, what's that doing in the ladies room? That's when I realized I had used the mens room.
Gina
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Post by: davina61 on January 27, 2024, 07:55:40 AM
Took me a few years to sort my brain out on gendering myself correctly , just the odd slip here and there so not that bad.
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Post by: Gina P on January 31, 2024, 08:54:54 PM
I was supposed to have a court hearing tomorrow to have my name change made official but due to some bureaucratic bs its delayed till April. The courthouse had forms which I had to mail certified mail to the statehouse. Part of the form was to be filled in by the court at the hearing(says the courthouse). Statehouse says the form is not filled in and cannot be processed, so could not be mailed back. No form, no hearing. I hate any state agency. I think we have it figured out now, but I have to wait another 7 weeks until the judge has another opening.
Still doing hair removal for the upcoming bottom surgery in June and had the last of 3 hemeroids fixed. Last one was the worst and has been keeping me up the last couple of nights.  I hope I get some sleep tonight. Work has been frustrating but we are getting through. I know the sun will come out tomorrow.
Gina
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Post by: Jessica_Rose on January 31, 2024, 09:11:20 PM
I understand your pain, Gina. A good friend of mine had a hemorrhoidectomy nearly a year ago, and she described just a little of what she went through. I would not even want an enemy to go though that much discomfort. Hemorrhoids truly are a pain in the rear. I hope your recovery goes smoothly, and good luck on getting that paperwork though the system.

Love always -- Jess
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Post by: Gina P on February 01, 2024, 07:52:58 AM
I forgot to mention in my last post. My emotions have been all over the place lately. Feeling happy and almost euphoric at times then latter in the day feeling down without any real reason. Does any one else experience mood swings like this? I've been on the rollercoaster for about a month now. Not sure if its HRT related or just the endless cloudy weather we are having
Gina. 
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Post by: Jenn104 on February 01, 2024, 08:32:35 AM
Quote from: Gina P on February 01, 2024, 07:52:58 AMI forgot to mention in my last post. My emotions have been all over the place lately. Feeling happy and almost euphoric at times then latter in the day feeling down without any real reason. Does any one else experience mood swings like this? I've been on the rollercoaster for about a month now. Not sure if its HRT related or just the endless cloudy weather we are having
Gina.

Yes. guilty. I do get mood swings.

I believe it is a little bit due to HRT putting me in a more vulnerable place. Which is a positive for me, YMMV. I also believe it is seasonal. Everyone can get winter blues, which I think are "Seasonal Affective Disorder" in medical speak.

hopefully that helps,

Jenn
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Post by: Brooke Renee on February 03, 2024, 08:45:35 AM
Quote from: Gina P on February 01, 2024, 07:52:58 AMI forgot to mention in my last post. My emotions have been all over the place lately. Feeling happy and almost euphoric at times then latter in the day feeling down without any real reason. Does any one else experience mood swings like this? I've been on the rollercoaster for about a month now. Not sure if its HRT related or just the endless cloudy weather we are having
Gina.

Hey girl,

Probably both!  It's that time of the year when most of us Seattleites throw in the towel, pour a glass of scotch, and plop down in front of the TV with a bowl of Vitamin D gummies.

Hugs,

Brooke


PS: Super happy you joined out group! 
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Post by: Gina P on February 04, 2024, 07:28:55 AM
  Went for a nice trail ride yesterday. Only 5 miles but with my banded hemorrhoids, I felt every step. It was still nice to get out. The weather was in the 40's and sunny, had that spring feel to it. My horse had a touch of spring fever and had lots of go and little whoa. Stopped for some apples at a local farm market, on the way home. I especially like Empire apples and didn't see any so I asked. The owner and his employee get into a discussion about which apples are best for 'HER' meaning me which feels great to  be gendered correctly. I settled on Honey Crisp then they found some Empires  in the cooler so I now have a bag of both.
   Today we take my son and his wife out to dinner for thier birthdays. Always a good time hanging with them.
Had a bite with Courtney on Friday. Her hair is looking great, though I embarrassed her by looking at it in the restaurant. It's so nice to have someone who I can talk to about trans things and gets it.
  My business has been a little slow lately, so we are moving the rest of my stuff off the property that used to be my mothers. 40+ years of crap in the barn and I don't want to leave a bit that might be useful behind. Down to a few hundred bales of hay which next week should be out. 350 wood fence posts. Many pieces of angle iron. A snow mobile. The list goes on and on.
   The moods have been a little better. I always feel better when Gina gets a chance to dress up and go out.
Gina
   I am using my female voice more and more but still struggle and drop back to the old pitch quite often. It's a slow progress but I am making progress.
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Post by: imallie on February 04, 2024, 08:12:30 AM
What a great picture, Gina!

THAT'S what "happiness" looks like!!

Love,
Allie
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Post by: Gina P on February 06, 2024, 05:54:18 AM
When we took my son out Sunday, he seamed a bit off. Then he started arguing with his wife at the end of the meal. Yesterday she call me and asked me to call him and try to help him. Finds out he hates me for challanging the estate (will) and making him loose his inheritance. We had a huge blow up and I wound up hanging up on him after he said I don't care.... I borrowed $60k against my house and all he can say is where is mine! He wanted to put in a blacktop driveway this spring. Never mind the $10k I gave him to help buy his house, he has more due him. Argh I hate what money has done to our family.
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Post by: Brooke Renee on February 06, 2024, 06:18:12 AM
Hi Gina,

Sorry to hear about the strife with your son, sadly money and family stories are all too common.  Hopefully in time everyone will return to civility and realize life is not always easy and predictable. 

Hugs,

Brooke
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Post by: Gina P on February 08, 2024, 06:04:49 AM
  I got the shingles vaccine on Wednesday. The nurse comes into the waiting room and says very loudly 'Gregory'. Argh! I reluctantly get up and once out of the waiting room tell her she has my name wrong. She apologizes.
   We pulled the last of my hay out of Moms barn on Wednesday. I have been coughing and sneezing, runny nose, sore throat, muscle aches. Not sure how much was a reaction from the vax and how much from overdoing it but I have felt like I had the flue for the last few days. Feeling a little better today. Still hacking some. We will see. I  don't think I will miss the hay fever that comes along with doing hay.
  I bought a new bra, 'Fallsweet' padded pushup. Amazing makes my boobs look great. I have a C cup in the same bra, which I fill out nicely but decided to try a B which pushes the girls out the top and on display. Its amazing how good I feel looking in the mirror. Just another conformation that I am on the right path.
Gina
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Post by: TXSara on February 08, 2024, 06:47:58 AM
Quote from: Gina P on February 08, 2024, 06:04:49 AMI got the shingles vaccine on Wednesday. The nurse comes into the waiting room and says very loudly 'Gregory'. Argh! I reluctantly get up and once out of the waiting room tell her she has my name wrong. She apologizes.

That happened to me at LabCorp about 6 months ago.  Talk about "walk of shame"... I was pretty upset at the time, but I'm glad that it hasn't happened in a long while.

Quote from: Gina P on February 08, 2024, 06:04:49 AMI bought a new bra, 'Fallsweet' padded pushup. Amazing makes my boobs look great. I have a C cup in the same bra, which I fill out nicely but decided to try a B which pushes the girls out the top and on display. Its amazing how good I feel looking in the mirror. Just another conformation that I am on the right path.

That's great, Gina!  I'm really glad that you are enjoying "the girls".  I don't think I admire mine QUITE as much as Courtney does LOL, but I do find myself looking in the mirror every once in a while thinking, "Wow.  It really happened.  I'm so happy!"  It's really nice to be proud of my body for once in my life.

~Sara
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Post by: Courtney G on February 08, 2024, 04:45:31 PM
Quote from: TXSara on February 08, 2024, 06:47:58 AMThat's great, Gina!  I'm really glad that you are enjoying "the girls".  I don't think I admire mine QUITE as much as Courtney does LOL, but I do find myself looking in the mirror every once in a while thinking, "Wow.  It really happened.  I'm so happy!"  It's really nice to be proud of my body for once in my life.

Hey! I resemble that remark! But seriously, positivity about my breasts is pretty much all I have right now. Maybe I'll be singing a different tune once my hair grows in...
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Post by: ChrissyRyan on February 08, 2024, 08:31:31 PM
Quote from: Gina P on February 08, 2024, 06:04:49 AMI got the shingles vaccine on Wednesday. The nurse comes into the waiting room and says very loudly 'Gregory'. Argh! I reluctantly get up and once out of the waiting room tell her she has my name wrong. She apologizes.
   We pulled the last of my hay out of Moms barn on Wednesday. I have been coughing and sneezing, runny nose, sore throat, muscle aches. Not sure how much was a reaction from the vax and how much from overdoing it but I have felt like I had the flue for the last few days. Feeling a little better today. Still hacking some. We will see. I  don't think I will miss the hay fever that comes along with doing hay.
  I bought a new bra, 'Fallsweet' padded pushup. Amazing makes my boobs look great. I have a C cup in the same bra, which I fill out nicely but decided to try a B which pushes the girls out the top and on display. Its amazing how good I feel looking in the mirror. Just another conformation that I am on the right path.
Gina

Gina,

Is not shingles something that happens mostly to older people?  You look pretty and young regardless.

I do have some days when I seem to want to have my breasts to appear more prominent.  Unsure why exactly but I do.

I tried a front clasping push up padded bra but it seemed to make my breasts look too big so I returned it.  I am a natural B cup.

Chrissy


Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Jessica_Rose on February 09, 2024, 07:29:30 AM
Quote from: ChrissyRyan on February 08, 2024, 08:31:31 PMGina,

Is not shingles something that happens mostly to older people?  You look pretty and young regardless.

Chrissy


I had shingles when I was 16. It formed a band of blisters about 4 inches wide from my sternum to my spine around the left side of my chest. I thought is was poison ivy, but a trip to the doctor resulted in a prognosis of shingles. It was not a pleasant experience. Although shingles is uncommon in younger people, it can strike at any age.

Love always -- Jessica Rose
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on February 10, 2024, 07:05:12 AM
Quote from: ChrissyRyan on February 08, 2024, 08:31:31 PMGina,

Is not shingles something that happens mostly to older people?  You look pretty and young 
Thanks Chrissy, I'm 61 and the doc says at 60 it a good idea to get the vax. My father and grandfather both endured shingles and were miserable with it for a month, which is why i decided it might be best to go this route .
  The weather is supposed to be near 60 today so as you all know me, off trail riding we go. Hopping for a 9 mile ride at Trexler game preserve. A very hilly ride but always nice.
  The hemeroids have mostly healed and I can sit a bit more comfortable.
   I was asked by the gas station attendant, "What can I get you mam?" being gendered correctly is so nice. I didn't think it would bother me as much when someone says sir, but as I get further along in transition it does.  
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: davina61 on February 10, 2024, 08:12:57 AM
Well you only need it if you had chicken pox as the virus lies dormant and reactivates to give shingles as I understand it.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: imallie on February 10, 2024, 08:59:23 AM
Shingles is NOT something to mess with.

Yes, it's something that is basically related to Chicken pox ... but if you had/didn't have CP it doesn't matter. And it is more prevalent in people over 50, but it can strike at any age.

And while I haven't had it, I can speak to a few things:

1 - my wife and I both got the vaccine. The first part kicked our butts, worse than any other shot we'd ever had. Most likely, we feel, because we just didn't expect it. We had heard people say "it's bad" but people say that about the flu shot, about Covid shots, etc... this one WAS. We were legit sick for 24 hours.  The second dose - we were fine.  Which was funny because we prepared like it was going to be an apocalypse - bought lots of soup and comfort food, and then... nothing. 😂

2 - that being said, please don't be scared off getting it. While I haven't had it, I do know head pain with my daily cluster headaches and migraines. The only other person I know who has had comparable head trauma is a dear friend who had a brain aneurysm and has had multiple brain surgeries.  And SHE once had Shingles - in her eye. And she says Shingles was more painful than her surgeries.

So get vaccinated when your doc tells you.

This has been a message from your friendly neighborhood AMA 😘

Love,
Allie
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Oldandcreaky on February 10, 2024, 10:20:37 AM
I echo what Allie said. The shingles vaccine was bad for my spouse and me too and we hadn't been warned, which made it even worse because we hadn't braced for it. As with Allie, the second shot wasn't as bad.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: ChrissyRyan on February 10, 2024, 11:08:38 AM
Quote from: Gina P on February 10, 2024, 07:05:12 AMThanks Chrissy, I'm 61 and the doc says at 60 it a good idea to get the vax. My father and grandfather both endured shingles and were miserable with it for a month, which is why i decided it might be best to go this route .
  The weather is supposed to be near 60 today so as you all know me, off trail riding we go. Hopping for a 9 mile ride at Trexler game preserve. A very hilly ride but always nice.
  The hemeroids have mostly healed and I can sit a bit more comfortable.
   I was asked by the gas station attendant, "What can I get you mam?" being gendered correctly is so nice. I didn't think it would bother me as much when someone says sir, but as I get further along in transition it does. 

Gina,

It is always nice to be treated as a woman.  Much of the time I am accepted although I think there are some "smiles of perhaps things are not what the appear" by some.  So be it but I admit it is disheartening at times.  I was simply born with the wrong body and it is not that easy to remedy that.  Onward though I say to myself.

Horses are beautiful animals.  I hope you have a wonderful ride today.

Chrissy
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on February 11, 2024, 08:10:27 AM
Went ridding at Trexler game preserve in PA, Saturday. Rode 10.6 miles. I was wore out and crashed when we got home.  Crossed streams, up mountains and down, then back up, over and over... They were feeding the bison when we went by. The bison came running to get the hay which spooked our horses and my wife was thrown. She is a little sore but ok. I took a minute to walk the horses over to the fence where they stood nose to nose checking the bison out. (nothing to fear here) The weather was close to 60 deg. here are 3 covered bridges all within a few miles of there. All in all it was a nice ride.
   I had counseling Friday. We discussed my fear of using my female voice in public and how it is just like the first times presenting in public. "If someone has a problem with it its theirs NOT YOURS", was his response. I had not seen the similarity before and I hope this gives me more courage to use my female voice. After months of voice coaching I was doing good at the secessions but when out struggled. I found out I didn't want to sound like a gay man. And yes I was/am worried about what others might think. One more hurtle to overcome.
Gina

(about:invalid)
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Jessica_Rose on February 11, 2024, 08:20:36 AM
Sorry to hear that your wife got thrown, and I'm glad she is OK. It sounds like it was a beautiful ride.

It's interesting how words change meaning over time. Many years ago, describing someone as 'gay' was a compliment:

From Webster's Dictionary, circa 1828:
GAY, adjective
1. Merry; airy; jovial; sportive; frolicksome. It denotes more life and animation than cheerful.
Belinda smiled, and all the world was gay

Maybe one day that will again become the preferred definition, when people finally realize that loving who they are and loving who they want to love really does make them 'merry, jovial, and frolicksome'.

Love always -- Jessica Rose
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on February 14, 2024, 05:43:16 AM
I hope I didn't offend anyone with the word 'Gay'. I was meaning I didn't want to sound like a man with that over the top effeminate like voice. I would just like to sound like a natural female.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: davina61 on February 14, 2024, 07:37:54 AM
I think we all got that my dear.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on February 15, 2024, 03:14:22 PM
I played Gina of all trades today and conquered fixing my refrigerator icemaker. First I didn't have  clue why it stopped working or how these darn things work. You Tube up! I never did figure out what was wrong but my guess was the motor. I had another one inn the garage fridge but it was slightly different so a little spicing of the wires and presto it works. :)
Had my 4th hair removal for surgery, Wednesday. It defiantly stung a bit as she got close to my rectum. Only 2 more to go there. She has also been doing my hair below my belly button at my request. Its so smooth now its amazing. I need to schedule some for the rest of my body.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Maid Marion on February 15, 2024, 04:24:27 PM
Hi Gina,

Great to hear you fixed the icemaker!

We got a foot on snow for fully testing my snow blower repair.  Worked just fine!
I was able to clear away all the snow before it froze.  Much easier when I can do that.

Marion
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: ChrissyRyan on February 15, 2024, 04:34:30 PM
Quote from: Gina P on February 15, 2024, 03:14:22 PMI played Gina of all trades today and conquered fixing my refrigerator icemaker. First I didn't have  clue why it stopped working or how these darn things work. You Tube up! I never did figure out what was wrong but my guess was the motor. I had another one inn the garage fridge but it was slightly different so a little spicing of the wires and presto it works. :)
Had my 4th hair removal for surgery, Wednesday. It defiantly stung a bit as she got close to my rectum. Only 2 more to go there. She has also been doing my hair below my belly button at my request. Its so smooth now its amazing. I need to schedule some for the rest of my body.

Most ice makers in refrigerators are essentially the same, except those that make pellet ice as opposed to more of a crescent shape.  Congratulations on the repair.

It is nice to have smooth areas free of troublesome hair.  Good for you Gina!

Chrissy
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on February 19, 2024, 05:53:49 AM
  My icemaker repair was to good, now it doesn't shut off and dumped ice all over the freezer. I must have a wire in the wrong place. We cleaned out the fridge scrubbed it all down while I had it off. Now the temp regulator flap stopped working. I think we should just get a new fridge, but the wife doesn't want to spend the money and instead wants to just buy the part.
  I have been brain dead the last week or 2. Forgetting everything just in zombie mode. Had a bit of a cough so I'm guessing a bit of a cold. No drive to do much.
  We flipped the mattress on the bed, which was a pillow top. Now is very firm. Very interesting sensation when I lay down on my back, I could feel my boobs bounce up and down on my chest. 
Hugs Gina
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on February 22, 2024, 06:14:01 AM
   Still close to 4 months till surgery day, but my mind has been working overtime trying to convince me to call the whole thing off. As I use the spicate to relieve myself behind a tree or in a dirty job Johnny I find myself asking why would I want to squat or sit? Of course the resounding answer is because I have to!! I know I am one of the newer ones in terms of transitioning but patients has never been one of my strong suits. I sometimes feel I am trapped between two worlds. I need to remind myself that I am still making progress and in time all will be done. My breasts continue to grow slowly. My hair is getting so long I have to fluff it up to prevent it from getting stuck under my collar. Teeth are getting fixed and looking better with the braces. Hair removal for surgery is getting done. Hemeroids are all better now.
   Troubles are my hip has been bothering me a lot and I know it will need to be replaced very soon. Business has been slow and adds to the stress. Tax time in here and I usually owe a large amount no matter how much we plan for. Work trucks are getting older and should be upgraded but with business slow its not feasible.
   Sorry just a little venting.
  Gina
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: davina61 on February 22, 2024, 08:17:10 AM
Vent away dear, I know what its like running a business. Yup that's the only thing "negative" about the op, I had to get a Portaloo for my workshop instead of the handy bucket!
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on February 24, 2024, 07:38:01 AM

Sitting here having my morning coffee watching a herd of deer in the woods near my house. I have been sleeping much better now, with the mattress flipped. No more zombie mode. Instead of craving quick energy/calories, I'm back on my diet. Hopping to loose 20lbs in the next few months.
  I have my endo appointment on Monday. I must fess up and tell her I upped my Estradoil .1 on my own. The blood tests say it was needed but she didn't order it. I also have been taking Progesterone on and off without her consent. My previous endo had prescribed it which I filled all the prescriptions available, before switching over. This endo is against it and doesn't want my taking any. I think it makes a difference.
Gina 
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Courtney G on February 24, 2024, 09:06:37 AM
Glad you're sleeping (and eating) better, Gina.

Funny how docs vary on what they think is the right course of treatment when this science is so underdeveloped and less studied than treatment for other conditions. My doc at Plume is more in the "this is what we've had success with but let me know if you feel differently about it and we'll adjust" camp.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Brooke Renee on February 24, 2024, 09:29:57 AM
Quote from: Courtney G on February 24, 2024, 09:06:37 AMGlad you're sleeping (and eating) better, Gina.

Funny how docs vary on what they think is the right course of treatment when this science is so underdeveloped and less studied than treatment for other conditions. My doc at Plume is more in the "this is what we've had success with but let me know if you feel differently about it and we'll adjust" camp.

Yep, this how mine is too.  She's of the mind that "you're a grown-a** woman and you can make your own informed decisions based on the known risks".

I'm glad you are sleeping better as well Gina, that sure can change your perspective on life! 


Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: LoriDee on February 24, 2024, 09:38:37 AM
I've had many an argument with my Endo on that subject. Sadly, the VA, like all government agencies, is at least five years behind the rest of the world. They were following the prescribing protocol from 2017 which excludes progesterone. I sent her links to dozens of studies showing the benefits and she responded that the studies were too small to be significant. I asked her point-blank if the fact that transgenders only make up 1% of the population does that mean we are insignificant? Medical journals in China and India dating back thousands of years describe a particular medicine. U.S. FDA: "There is no evidence that this works. The FDA has not evaluated this statement". Sheesh!

That Endo retired from the VA, so I was moved to a Community provider who prescribed progesterone. My sleep patterns improved immediately. Now the VA has decided they want to handle all medical in-house if available. Without warning, they refused to renew my authorization to continue seeing my endocrinologist and set me up to begin care with an in-house Gynecologist. I meet her on Monday (26th).

I worry that as an employee of the VA, she will be forced to follow outdated protocol. However, she just returned from a two-year hiatus traveling in Europe to study Transgender Medicine. So I am hopeful.

I worry that you take the meds "on and off". I don't believe you are doing harm, but meds have a half-life, (amount of time it takes for the body to process them). The prescribing schedule is so that your body maintains an even dose instead of roller-coasting up and down between doses. Oral estradiol has a half-life of 12 hours, so it is usually prescribed so you take one in the morning, and one in the evening to maintain levels. I don't know what the half-life is for progesterone. My concern is not that you are doing something dangerous, but that you might be wasting the medication by not allowing it to work as intended. Feel free to tell me to mind my own business.  :-*
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on February 24, 2024, 02:48:23 PM
Quote from: LoriDee on February 24, 2024, 09:38:37 AMI worry that you take the meds "on and off". I don't believe you are doing harm, but meds have a half-life, (amount of time it takes for the body to process them). The prescribing schedule is so that your body maintains an even dose instead of roller-coasting up and down between doses. Oral estradiol has a half-life of 12 hours, so it is usually prescribed so you take one in the morning, and one in the evening to maintain levels. I don't know what the half-life is for progesterone. My concern is not that you are doing something dangerous, but that you might be wasting the medication by not allowing it to work as intended. Feel free to tell me to mind my own business.  
By taking the P on and off. I usually do 3 weeks on 1 week off. I felt that in woman's body these hormones fluctuate with the menstrual cycle. It seamed when I took the same dose continually my body just got used to it. The E fluctuates enough with the rise and fall between injections.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Sarah B on February 24, 2024, 03:47:07 PM
Hi Gina

I hope you are well.  It's Sunday down here and I was reading your stories.  When I came across this:

Quote from: Gina P on February 08, 2024, 06:04:49 AMI got the shingles vaccine on Wednesday. The nurse comes into the waiting room and says very loudly 'Gregory'. Argh! I reluctantly get up and once out of the waiting room tell her she has my name wrong. She apologizes.

I was at my mum's house a couple of years after surgery on holidays from school.  I was in the lounge area when all of a sudden she calls me by my 'old name' and I totally ignored her, no reaction from me whatsoever.  I heard her mumbling something about me and in a sense I knew she was fuming.  She then calls me by my 'new name'.  I immediately turn around and say "yes mum".  She never ever called me again by my 'old name'.

I said to my family, one by one, I will never answer to my 'old name' ever again and actually come to think of it, they never did.

So all I can say and this is entirely up to you how you respond in the future. Please, Do not ever again respond to your 'old name', unless you really have too or want too.  Me personally, I never will respond to my 'old name'.

On a much lighter note, hows the weather where you are, it's raining cats and dogs here for the last 24 hours or so?.

Best Wishes, Love and Hugs
Sarah B
@Gina P
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: LoriDee on February 24, 2024, 06:11:24 PM
Quote from: Gina P on February 24, 2024, 02:48:23 PMBy taking the P on and off. I usually do 3 weeks on 1 week off. I felt that in woman's body these hormones fluctuate with the menstrual cycle. It seamed when I took the same dose continually my body just got used to it. The E fluctuates enough with the rise and fall between injections.

I gotcha. I was thinking take one tonight and skip a few nights. Maybe again next week. I think you are on track. I'll just shut up.  ;D
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on February 25, 2024, 11:06:47 AM
   Weather is clear and cool today. Supposed to get up to 40deg. My wife is a little sick with a cold today so I think I will make use of the nice weather and go on a solo trail ride.
   My official name is still Greg, so its hard not to answer when its used. Still on my health insurance, doctor visits etc. I do have the preferred name filled is but....Pharmacy still asked if Greg is the right prescription. Official name change should be in April and I cant wait. My wife still slips up and dead names me occasionally which I usually ignore her, or say who? She is getting better and said she is home to the dog. I have asked she stops calling me daddy to the animals as well.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: ChrissyRyan on February 25, 2024, 12:53:10 PM
Quote from: Gina P on February 25, 2024, 11:06:47 AMWeather is clear and cool today. Supposed to get up to 40deg. My wife is a little sick with a cold today so I think I will make use of the nice weather and go on a solo trail ride.
   My official name is still Greg, so its hard not to answer when its used. Still on my health insurance, doctor visits etc. I do have the preferred name filled is but....Pharmacy still asked if Greg is the right prescription. Official name change should be in April and I cant wait. My wife still slips up and dead names me occasionally which I usually ignore her, or say who? She is getting better and said she is home to the dog. I have asked she stops calling me daddy to the animals as well.


Gina,

I hope your wife feels better.

You also do not look like any Greg I have known.  Gina is definitely correct!

Chrissy
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on February 27, 2024, 05:57:37 AM
I had an appointment with my Endo yesterday and fessed up that I had upped the Estradiol .01 and was taking Progesterone from an earlier prescription with an other doctor. She berated me and said she didn't want to be my doctor anymore and I would have to go elsewhere. 10 min of apologizing and kissing butt and she says she will stay on but if it happens again i must go . She is really more of  diabetes doctor and many of the things I tell her about transitioning seam to surprise her. I am seriously considering going back to Plume. I have always been a one on one kind of person and not a big fan of online meds but I feel sometimes she is not looking out for my best interest. She is a stick figure and makes popeye's olive look curvy. She defiantly thinks less is more when it comes to hormones and such and seams to not understand the desire for big boobs. I told her about breast tenderness and she thinks this is a problem. I feel its just growing pains. She did refer me to a speech therapist in network, who also does voice surgery, so it was not a complete waste.  Much to think about.
I find myself thinking about transitioning all the time not with GD but with desire to move forward, faster. I find it hard to stay focused on work.
I had a nice relaxing trail ride alone on Sunday. I kept it short only 3 miles. My horse was well behaved and did his best. So nice to be out alone with just a horse and the quiet of the woods. I am probably the only rider who puts on makeup for a ride alone in the woods.
Hugs all round Gina
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Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: LoriDee on February 27, 2024, 09:00:16 AM
I am so sorry you are going through this. Every doctor seems to have their own protocol. The VA switched me from Endocrinology, and I had two different doctors in Endo. The first one refused to order progesterone. I sent her 20 articles discussing the benefits. She still refused. When she left the VA, they sent me to a non-VA Endo. She never gave me a chance to ask. She immediately ordered progesterone and upped my Estradiol dosage. The VA changed its policy this year and now requires all medical care to be handled within the VA if that service is available. So they refused to let me continue with that doctor and moved me to see a new doctor in the VA Women's Health Dept.

I had my first appointment with my new doctor yesterday. She is a Gynecologist. However, she just returned from a two-year hiatus in Europe studying transgender care. She spent two hours with me during a one-hour appointment discussing my problems. concerns and goals. She told me that the progesterone issue is currently one that is being heavily debated. She agreed to continue my prescription.

From my point of view, anyone who thinks it should not be prescribed has forgotten basic reproductive biology. They focus on "protecting the uterus" and think that since we don't have one, we are better off without unnecessary medication. They forget what progesterone does to the breasts from puberty through pregnancy to lactation. Since we don't have ovaries, we need it just as much as we need estradiol. [Stepping down from soapbox.]

It truly sucks when you must accept treatment from someone who may be less than 100% qualified, but in my experience, you must be your own advocate. I think that if you can find one, seek out someone with transgender or "integrative medicine" experience.

I am with you, sister.
Hugs

Lori
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Courtney G on February 27, 2024, 06:00:39 PM
Quote from: LoriDee on February 27, 2024, 09:00:16 AMI am so sorry you are going through this...seek out someone with transgender or "integrative medicine" experience.

Great points, Lori. I agree 100%.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on February 29, 2024, 05:47:41 AM
Thanks Lori and Courtney,
   I have never really liked my Endo from the time I started with her and she said she didn't think I would ever come out and really didn't want to prescribe me meds, but since I was already on them she would continue them for now. Problem is there is no gender specialising Endos in the area and none in my insurance network. My only other option is to go with an online provider such as Plume. For now I think I will just stay with her especially with only 4 months till bottom surgery.
Hugs Gina
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: imallie on February 29, 2024, 06:41:11 AM
Yeah, sorry about that whole situation Gina. Obviously finding the right people to join your "team" is such an essential part of this - we are literally building our own support system.
But it's easier said than done when there simply are not qualified professionals in your area/network.

All that being said? It's still important to find a doctor that you like and trust who you feel has your best interest at heart. They may not be an expert in the field, but if they're on your side, they need to be willing to get the info they need to provide you the best possible treatment. Honestly, it's how most GPs work. They aren't experts on EVERYTHING. They learn over the years through experience.

So am I happy you two came to an understanding, and I hope it blossoms into something you feel is a good relationship for you. But if not, I think you just need to find a doctor who you like and connect with — whether it is their expertise or not in a situation where experts are not available.

Good luck!!
Allie
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Jenn104 on February 29, 2024, 07:19:47 AM
Hi Gina -

Bear with me, on my phone in the office. I will try to do this as best I can...

Insurance is tough. Depending on your state and type of insurance, your rights can vary. A few things I have learned along the way include -

 - Many plans have a concierge or single contact feature. You have to ask for one in my experience. A concierge can help connect you with the right care.

 - You may be entitled to out of network providers being covered as in network, depending on location. In Massachusetts, it works this way.

 - Not surprisingly, it's difficult to get out of network exceptions. The process is call a "gap exception request". stiff like this is why a concierge or single point of contact is pure gold.


 As it is, your relationship to your Endo sounds borderline toxic. if it continues as such, maybe she could recommend and refer you to a colleague.


good luck

jenn
 
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on March 01, 2024, 05:51:56 AM
Thanks on all the suggestions on the Endo. 
Moving on I have an appointment for voice therapy on Monday. Its an evaluation but This therapist also does voice surgery if it need to be. And the best part he/she is in my insurance network. (there is another story here, for another time). I find this is a huge part of my transition that needs to be fixed right now. I had tried a few months of voice training with another teacher but found little success, though she felt I had mastered it.

On other news my wife and I went to the yearly horse expo yesterday. A wonderful day of talks and shopping. I had many comments on my shirt which used to be my wife's. A sort of denim with horses printed on it. As I was dressing she said, because she is dieting, wouldn't it be neat if when i loose enough weight, we can share clothes. That was a super nice gesture and brought a smile to my face. All day talking to vendors and never once misgendered, except for one slip up by my wife when she said HE, referring to me. I found a nice cowgirl hat to replace the delipidated ones I have been wearing.  A really nice day, now we are both so sore from all the walking and I have to go back to work.
Gina
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on March 04, 2024, 05:54:12 AM
  Went on a nice 9.5 mile trail ride with the wife yesterday. Weather was in the 60s, just perfect. Horses were wonderful as always. Had several children and thier parents in the parking lot wanting to pet the horses so I gave them short rides around the parking lot. I'm sure it made thier day. Wherever we go the horses always attract a lot of attention. We went to a local reservoir which is a state park. Surrounded by mountains. It is very rocky and hilly terrain plus there were many trees blown down across the trail, 2 of which I had to cut with my folding saw.
  I have my voice therapy this morning. I have high hopes. This is a big problem for me right now. Many have said it is confusing because physically I look female but then they hear a mans voice!
Gina
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Jenn104 on March 04, 2024, 07:04:28 AM
Quote from: Gina P on March 04, 2024, 05:54:12 AMI have my voice therapy this morning. I have high hopes. This is a big problem for me right now. Many have said it is confusing because physically I look female but then they hear a mans voice!


Good Luck Gina! I loved doing voice therapy, mine was in a hugely affirming environment. I like what I think of as "new voice". My voice isn't perfect and set your expectations fairly.

I can't say this enough-- set aside practice time. I had (actually still have, just less often) an alarm on my phone to remind myself to practice. Then practice a little more.  Practice is dull but the more you practice the more it works.

~Jenn
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Jessica_Rose on March 04, 2024, 08:08:10 AM
Quote from: Jenn104 on March 04, 2024, 07:04:28 AMI can't say this enough-- set aside practice time. I had (actually still have, just less often) an alarm on my phone to remind myself to practice. Then practice a little more.  Practice is dull but the more you practice the more it works.

~Jenn

Your voice is an instrument. Voice therapy teaches you how to tune your voice and play different notes. You've been using 'default' settings for decades. As Jenn mentioned, the only way to change the defaults is through practice, practice, and more practice. You may be amazed at what you can do with your voice, but you must have patience... and you must practice.

Love always -- Jessica Rose
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Jenn104 on March 04, 2024, 08:27:55 AM
Quote from: Jessica_Rose on March 04, 2024, 08:08:10 AMYour voice is an instrument. Voice therapy teaches you how to tune your voice and play different notes. You've been using 'default' settings for decades. As Jenn mentioned, the only way to change the defaults is through practice, practice, and more practice. You may be amazed at what you can do with your voice, but you must have patience... and you must practice.

Love always -- Jessica Rose


^^^^ Yeah, that. Very well said.

Pro tip-- I used positive reinforcement to get in the habit. I wrote out a list of 'rewards', then tracked daily practice with a "V" on a paper calendar. After 7 days I gave myself a reward. After 15 days another reward. After 30 I let my voice therapist pick one. Nothing big-- walking over to get an ice cream cone was one, a manicure another, I think taking a day off of work to enjoy myself was on the list.

Positive reinforcement works with anything that is tedious btw. A good trick for transition-y things in general.

~Jenn
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on March 05, 2024, 09:42:47 AM
Voice therapist called out sick. I'm waiting for him to reschedule. Is this the patience part? 
I did voice training with another person who said I had a very good sounding voice after three months or so of training. She didn't seam to think I needed any more training but said we could work on other things. I could do ok when in her office but when the door shut leaving I always defaulted back to my old voice.
Gina
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: LoriDee on March 05, 2024, 09:55:59 AM
I am still waiting for my first appointment, so have no idea what to expect. From what I understand, (I do the same thing), you are relaxing into your old habit. The more you practice, the more your mind/body will learn what your new "normal" is. Eventually, that will be your default voice that you relax into. I hope that makes sense.

Keep up the good work, it will pay off. I hope for the day when someone tells me that I don't need any training.  ;D

Hugs!
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on March 06, 2024, 07:27:12 AM
Quote from: LoriDee on March 05, 2024, 09:55:59 AMI am still waiting for my first appointment, so have no idea what to expect. From what I understand, (I do the same thing), you are relaxing into your old habit. The more you practice, the more your mind/body will learn what your new "normal" is. Eventually, that will be your default voice that you relax into. I hope that makes sense.
I was told to practice 3 times a day. I never could find the time to do more than once a day, for about 15min. I'm sure that didn't help. The first voice therapist had me do crazy things like blow thru a straw in water and hum at the same time?? Put a pencil in my mouth and talk trying not to use my tongue.? Any way I became discouraged after 3 months of training and $1200 spent.
The new speech therapist rescheduled for 3 weeks from now.
Gina
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Maid Marion on March 06, 2024, 07:38:31 AM
Now that I'm retired I can sometimes practice my golf swing several times a day!
It really helps for doing non-intuitive swing changes, like hitting the ball before the ground!
A lot of amateurs hit the ground first, and then the ball, which doesn't work as well.

Short practice sessions at frequent intervals has always worked better that fewer practice sessions that are longer.

I have a lot of experinece with this as I had a stroke and had to re-learn a lot of things.
I had professional speech therapy to modulate my voice.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: LoriDee on March 06, 2024, 11:04:26 AM
@Gina P

I am still waiting for my first appointment, but I learned a lot from a YouTube channel called TransVoice Lessons. She explains the whole "humming through a straw" and other training exercises. Search for her channel if you want to learn the why and the how. I seem to learn better if I understand why I am doing something. Hugs!
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on March 07, 2024, 05:42:38 AM
Had my blood work done Tuesday. E = 119 Pg/mL which is down from November of 133
T total = 1.1 pg/mL  which is close to steady from November of 0.9
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on March 09, 2024, 06:51:30 AM
Had a really bad encounter with my employee who I always thought of as a friend. He said many hurtful and hatefull things about my transition. I knew I would encounter some people who don't understand what I'm going through but I wasn't expecting it to come from someone so close. He always pretended to be supportive. I guess that is why it bothers me so much. I told him if he wants to work somewhere else I understand, so I'm not sure if he will leave. His work has been sub par lately anyway so it would not be a big loss. More stress to deal with. Seams it never ends.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: davina61 on March 09, 2024, 08:07:46 AM
Let it flow dear, its their problem not yours. If they leave then that's fine just be amicable .
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Maid Marion on March 09, 2024, 08:25:05 AM
It may not be entirely his fault.  There are "leaders" demonizing gender issues for political gain.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: LoriDee on March 09, 2024, 09:28:07 AM
Sometimes all we can do is listen to them rant. Then tell them we understand their feelings and the reasons behind them are because they don't understand the subject. {Tactfully telling them to become educated}. My point is, they lash out at us for any number of reasons. We listen and let them rant and demonstrate how ignorant they are. Yes, it hurts. Sometimes a LOT. But step back a moment at look at that interaction from a third-party view. Who was the better person in that exchange?

You win. It is their loss, and as Davina said, it is their problem, not yours.

Hugs!
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Jessica_Rose on March 09, 2024, 09:34:57 AM
I'm sorry to read about the poor response from your employee. It's difficult to know how someone will react. The first co-worker I came out to, a good friend, later stabbed me in the back. I was sure my dad would never want to see me again, but he welcomed me. I had a few people fade away, and I let them go. Some people just aren't worth the effort.

Love always -- Jess
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: ChrissyRyan on March 09, 2024, 11:43:21 PM
Quote from: Gina P on March 09, 2024, 06:51:30 AMHad a really bad encounter with my employee who I always thought of as a friend. He said many hurtful and hatefull things about my transition. I knew I would encounter some people who don't understand what I'm going through but I wasn't expecting it to come from someone so close. He always pretended to be supportive. I guess that is why it bothers me so much. I told him if he wants to work somewhere else I understand, so I'm not sure if he will leave. His work has been sub par lately anyway so it would not be a big loss. More stress to deal with. Seams it never ends.

That was not nice of him but it apparently was an honest expression of his thoughts.  This at least reveals what his true stance is.  That is good to know.  However this truthful stance of his is unpleasant to know. 

Hugs.

Chrissy

Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on March 10, 2024, 08:41:22 AM
The employee called me yesterday and apologized. He is going through some medical issues and blamed it on  that. Never the less what's been said has been said and I don't think I will ever be able to confide in him as a friend as before.
  I had my monthly trans meeting last night. 20-30 of us talking, sharing. So much love for each other and what we are going through. I left feeling very emotional. On the way home I almost shed a tear, almost! I could feel it welling up in me then something kicked in and suppressed it. I'm not sure if I will ever be able to cry but many times I get very close.
Gina
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: ChrissyRyan on March 10, 2024, 03:36:09 PM
Quote from: Gina P on March 10, 2024, 08:41:22 AMThe employee called me yesterday and apologized. He is going through some medical issues and blamed it on  that. Never the less what's been said has been said and I don't think I will ever be able to confide in him as a friend as before.
  I had my monthly trans meeting last night. 20-30 of us talking, sharing. So much love for each other and what we are going through. I left feeling very emotional. On the way home I almost shed a tear, almost! I could feel it welling up in me then something kicked in and suppressed it. I'm not sure if I will ever be able to cry but many times I get very close.
Gina

I am glad that he apologized.  I can understand why you would not care to confide in him.  Some people are Janus faced (two faced). 

We have it hard enough at times as MTFs to simply be ourselves without facing criticism from the those that simply do not understand.  Some even the think we are weirdos.

I am a bit weird in little ways I suppose but I do NOT think I am weird because I am MTF.  I am just trying to be my true self.  However, I can understand why some people think we are weird for being transgender, as most people are not transgender.  I do not agree with those that disapprove of us good people.

As long as we are decent, respectable people the fact that we are transgender should not matter.  I say it should not matter; but, many in our society as whole apparently seem to disagree, unfortunately. 

Hugs,

Chrissy
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: REM.1126 on March 12, 2024, 11:19:09 PM
First of all, Gina, I am very sorry your employee said hurtful things.  I am glad he apologized.  I understand why that doesn't undo what was done.

Secondly, you are missing out.  I don't know why you are unable to cry, but a good cry is sometimes a great release.  And, with the stress of transitioning, you can use all of the emotional relief you can get.

Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on March 13, 2024, 05:56:08 AM
One of the sales reps from a company I do business with called last night. I had asked the company to add Gina as a user to the web site and change from Greg to Gina on the return emails. The first words were welcome and the usual glad to have you. Then, "what happened to Greg? Did he leave the company?" I would have cringed at the conversation a year or more ago. Now I find it fun. I said yes, he's gone! To which I got the reply, "Oh". Then after a long pause, I just said he became Gina, to which I got the, "Oh I understand". This man has been my sales rep for over a year and never reached out to me. Now he wants a meeting to discuss ways to increase business.  Next I will have to get the picture of myself or of "that guy" changed to my picture.

My scissor lift has been giving me trouble so we pulled the motor off, ordered a brush kit and with a little cleaning of the commutator and some usual trial and error was able to replace the brushes and the lift works better than ever. And saved a lot of money on a new motor. 

Just another day in the life of Gina.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: ChrissyRyan on March 13, 2024, 07:00:20 AM
Quote from: Gina P on March 13, 2024, 05:56:08 AMOne of the sales reps from a company I do business with called last night. I had asked the company to add Gina as a user to the web site and change from Greg to Gina on the return emails. The first words were welcome and the usual glad to have you. Then, "what happened to Greg? Did he leave the company?" I would have cringed at the conversation a year or more ago. Now I find it fun. I said yes, he's gone! To which I got the reply, "Oh". Then after a long pause, I just said he became Gina, to which I got the, "Oh I understand". This man has been my sales rep for over a year and never reached out to me. Now he wants a meeting to discuss ways to increase business.  Next I will have to get the picture of myself or of "that guy" changed to my picture.

My scissor lift has been giving me trouble so we pulled the motor off, ordered a brush kit and with a little cleaning of the commutator and some usual trial and error was able to replace the brushes and the lift works better than ever. And saved a lot of money on a new motor.

Just another day in the life of Gina.

Gina,

It is good to make the right connections for you with others, and this can be satisfying and appropriate.

Good going on making the motor work better. 

Chrissy

Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on March 13, 2024, 10:11:55 AM
@Gina P
Dear Gina:

        "What happened to Greg?" !!!!
I am certain indeed that you will have a "fun" conversation.  ;D
Your answer to the sales reps was perfect and it would be interesting
to see the look on the sales rep's face when you replied.

Thank you for keeping your Blog thread updated for me and the
rest of your avid followers.


HUGS, Danielle

Quote from: Gina P on March 13, 2024, 05:56:08 AMOne of the sales reps from a company I do business with called last night. I had asked the company to add Gina as a user to the web site and change from Greg to Gina on the return emails. The first words were welcome and the usual glad to have you. Then, "what happened to Greg? Did he leave the company?" I would have cringed at the conversation a year or more ago. Now I find it fun. I said yes, he's gone! To which I got the reply, "Oh". Then after a long pause, I just said he became Gina, to which I got the, "Oh I understand". This man has been my sales rep for over a year and never reached out to me. Now he wants a meeting to discuss ways to increase business.  Next I will have to get the picture of myself or of "that guy" changed to my picture.

My scissor lift has been giving me trouble so we pulled the motor off, ordered a brush kit and with a little cleaning of the commutator and some usual trial and error was able to replace the brushes and the lift works better than ever. And saved a lot of money on a new motor.

Just another day in the life of Gina.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: imallie on March 13, 2024, 11:44:46 AM
Quote from: Gina P on March 13, 2024, 05:56:08 AMOne of the sales reps from a company I do business with called last night. I had asked the company to add Gina as a user to the web site and change from Greg to Gina on the return emails. The first words were welcome and the usual glad to have you. Then, "what happened to Greg? Did he leave the company?" I would have cringed at the conversation a year or more ago. Now I find it fun. I said yes, he's gone! To which I got the reply, "Oh". Then after a long pause, I just said he became Gina, to which I got the, "Oh I understand". This man has been my sales rep for over a year and never reached out to me. Now he wants a meeting to discuss ways to increase business.  Next I will have to get the picture of myself or of "that guy" changed to my picture.

My scissor lift has been giving me trouble so we pulled the motor off, ordered a brush kit and with a little cleaning of the commutator and some usual trial and error was able to replace the brushes and the lift works better than ever. And saved a lot of money on a new motor.

Just another day in the life of Gina.

Such a perfect reply, Gina!!

So many ways you could have gone inadvertently off-base with that, and opened up a whole different discussion.

Even if you'd just said: "Greg is no longer with us" you 100% would have had that guy calling 1-800flowers and trying to compose a thoughtful card! 😂

So, I am in awe of your deft touch. Makes me certain the meeting will go great!

Love,
Allie
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on March 15, 2024, 06:04:41 AM
It was another beautiful spring day here in NJ yesterday, 76deg. I had to go to the store so I dressed in turquoise shorts and a butterfly pattern T shirt. Added some butterfly earrings and a butterfly bracelet, turquoise sneakers, even wore a anklet. I had  few stares from mostly the older women. One just stopped mouth open and looked me up and down. I smiled in return. Its great to feel good in my skin.
  Courtney and I are planning on attending the Keystone Trans conference next week. Should be a lot of fun. I'm looking forward to it. A few of the members from my monthly trans group are doing talks there, and many will be attending. Should be an fun day.
Gina
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Jenn104 on March 15, 2024, 06:46:54 AM
Quote from: Gina P on March 15, 2024, 06:04:41 AMIts great to feel good in my skin.


That says it all. I am super happy when I see that.

Happy Keystoning. Conferences can be a blast.

~Jenn
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on March 16, 2024, 07:34:17 AM
   A very good friend came over last night. He needed some work done on his truck. We had grown up very close and always considered ourselves brothers. Anyway, he says do you really think you are a woman? I had to think hard about how to answer that. I finally said ,"my mind is a woman's". And the conversation went on "do you think that's why you always were so aggressive?" Seams he remembers me wanting to fight anyone growing up. I remember never fitting in and always being frustrated with being 'me'. Being in an abusive household didn't help but being trans and not being able to tell anyone was a real (female dog). 
   It's nice to talk with old friends and remember how far I've come. The peace of mind and love I feel now. Yes there are still good and bad days but no where as low on the bad days.
  Well its another beautiful spring day and my horse needs me to get out and be with nature.
Gina out.
PS: I would post more pictures but since the big crash it just way to difficult. I can change my avatar pic with a few keystrokes but need an app to post a pic in the forum?
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: LoriDee on March 16, 2024, 08:30:27 AM
Pics on the forum are hosted elsewhere. You can get a free Imgur account. Upload your pics there. Then use the BBC Embed code to post it in the body of your text.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on March 17, 2024, 12:02:44 PM
 Went trail ridding yesterday. The trail was The Pebble trail and the pebble was probably 20 feet tall. Amazing amount of boulders just strewn around the woods. Rode over 9 miles so I'm a little sore today.
Trying in earnest to loose some weight before my surgery. Weight rose to 202. Cut way back this week and lost 5lbs. If I can keep this up I'll be looking good for swimsuit weather.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Maid Marion on March 17, 2024, 12:23:30 PM
Hi Gina,

Good luck on the weight loss.

I use imgur to post pics here.
After uploading a pic it allows me to choose an image size as well as the type of link I want to copy and paste into a post.

Marion
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on March 23, 2024, 12:47:08 PM
Hung out with Courtney and Caela at the Keystone conference yesterday in Harrisburg, PA. A really great time. They had many vendors, a photographer (check out my new avatar), many talks or work shops on various subjects for trans people and diner. Just a really great hanging with like minded people. Maybe next year I will stay over for the Gala and other activities. 1 day was not enough.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Maid Marion on March 23, 2024, 12:52:07 PM
Staying overnight at an event like Keystone may allow dressing up in a way not possible at home.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Courtney G on March 23, 2024, 07:37:58 PM
Quote from: Maid Marion on March 23, 2024, 12:52:07 PMStaying overnight at an event like Keystone may allow dressing up in a way not possible at home.

That was the case for me.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on March 24, 2024, 07:13:56 AM
Its Official. I'm GINA!! Yay. I received the judges order via email. Now I can get the birth certificate changed, drivers license and insurance and .... the list goes on and on but its starting. Finally Greg (who is that!) can start drifting off into the sunset. I'm so happy.
Gina
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Jessica_Rose on March 24, 2024, 07:45:25 AM
Congratulations Gina! Getting your name changed everywhere is really time-consuming. The credit agencies can be exceptionally difficult (TransUnion, Experian, Equifax). I wish you the best of luck!

Love always -- Jess
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: LoriDee on March 24, 2024, 10:14:19 AM
Congrats, GINA!

I mailed a lot of originals to the credit bureaus, credit card companies, insurance companies, etc. Good thing the court gives unlimited numbers of certified copies. Then I hand-delivered to local places like the VA, DMV, County Vehicle Registration, credit union, Social Security, etc.

It is an awesome feeling to see YOUR name on official government-issued documents. I am SO happy for you!

Hugs.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: ChrissyRyan on March 24, 2024, 04:04:18 PM
Quote from: Gina P on March 24, 2024, 07:13:56 AMIts Official. I'm GINA!! Yay. I received the judges order via email. Now I can get the birth certificate changed, drivers license and insurance and .... the list goes on and on but its starting. Finally Greg (who is that!) can start drifting off into the sunset. I'm so happy.
Gina

Congratulations on taking this big step.

Good for you!

Chrissy
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: REM.1126 on March 24, 2024, 08:32:22 PM
Congratulations!  I can imagine it is both exciting for the future and a relief to get behind you. 
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: davina61 on March 25, 2024, 05:27:32 AM
Only one I have not been able to change is my mobile phone a/c, they say they cant but think its more like cant be bothered.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on March 27, 2024, 05:45:31 AM
Just when I'm feeling great about the name change, I get an Email from the lawyer about the motion for reimbursement on the estate challenge. I almost didn't want to read it. It was the transcripts of the motion and the things said from the other lawyer really brought me down. It seams whenever my life starts to feel right and everything is going well the rug gets pulled out from under me. I drank some wine and gorged on pizza till I felt good, but I know that that's not the best way to deal with it. I have an appointment with my therapist today so at least we have something to talk about. On an other front I am planning on getting my certified copies of the name change and starting to get everything changed today.
Gina
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: LoriDee on March 27, 2024, 10:29:05 AM
Eye on the prize, girl. Focus on the positive things and everything else will fall in line or fall away. Get your documents and work on telling the world about your new LEGAL name. Pizza and wine are also good.  ;D

Hugs!
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on March 28, 2024, 09:13:47 PM
So hear is my day. Started with an appointment made last night with the DMV for a new drivers license. I go to the court house today to get my certified/gold stamped copies(second floor) and I am told they cannot give out copies even though the judge and the order was mailed from them. "You have to mail everything to the state house in Trenton to get the copies made." Back down the stairs and home. I make some phone calls and finally get someone who says, you need a certified gold sealed copy to send us so we can make you more from that. Argh!! Call back to my courthouse to which they say if you come over now, we will make you the copies for $25 each. Back to the courthouse up the stairs get the paperwork. Now... You have to pay down stairs then bring the receipt back up to us. Down/up again. Get my copies then back down stairs and race to the DMV for my appointment, to which I didn't have the correct documentation to get a real ID drivers license so I settled for a standard one. But 'Gina' is now a registered female driver. All day shot but it's done. And I got a great work out running up and down those stairs. Perhaps I'll tackle Social Security next week. There has got to be a better way.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Iztaccihuatl on March 29, 2024, 12:22:39 AM
So, how many stories does your Social Security Administration building have? Just tying to get an idea of your workout options for tomorrow...

In all seriousness, congrats on your new driver's license with your correct name (and hopefully correct gender marker as well)!

Hugs,

Heidemarie
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: davina61 on March 29, 2024, 04:29:32 AM
Well at least something is easy in the UK, post a copy of name and gender change and licence with new photo and back within a week. At least you got the bonus workout for free!!
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on March 29, 2024, 05:23:21 AM
Quote from: Iztaccihuatl on March 29, 2024, 12:22:39 AMSo, how many stories does your Social Security Administration building have? Just tying to get an idea of your workout options for tomorrow...

In all seriousness, congrats on your new driver's license with your correct name (and hopefully correct gender marker as well)!

Hugs,

Heidemarie
Heidemarie, yes, the gender marker is correct. That was another form which I had to fill out. Luckily the counter lady was patient and let me fill it out there without going to the back of the line. Of course being frazzled, I had to fill it out twice because I made a mistake on the first one.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: LoriDee on March 29, 2024, 10:20:26 AM
Wow, Gina, that is quite the ordeal. I am glad you got it done.
Here in South Dakota, it went smoother. The judge signed the Order. I took it to the Clerk who put the stamps on it and asked how many copies I needed. Since it is my court case, copies are free, so I had her give me 20. She stamped and signed them all as "certified copies" of the original.

I did have to make two trips to Social Security as they wanted to see my birth certificate and the court order. The woman told me I had to amend my birth certificate first, then come back. That is absolutely false. There is no requirement to amend your birth certificate if you don't want to. Pennsylvania's backlog is 18 months so I decided it was unimportant. I contacted a Supervisor at the Social Security office and explained what happened. They scheduled a new appointment for me and that visit went off without a hitch.

Good luck. One down and a few more to go!

Hugs!
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on March 30, 2024, 07:11:24 AM
My wife and I are meeting my son and his wife's father for Easter dinner. I would like to wear a nice spring colored dress. My wife disapproves since we are meeting her father for the first time.? I always dress female so I'm not sure of the problem. She just says it may be to much for them to handle. She still see's a man in a dress!! It is who and what I am now, so there is no hiding it. (not a man in dress). I will have to give this more thought. Comments, suggestions anyone?
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: LoriDee on March 30, 2024, 09:44:33 AM
I can understand she may be nervous about a first meeting. The whole "first impressions" thing. Maybe a compromise? You can dress feminine without wearing a dress. I am not saying hide who you are, just be a bit less "in your face" for the first meeting. Does she have something in mind for you to wear?

My best friend knew me pre-transition. She has been very supportive and has commented on my hair and makeup. She said her only request was that she never wanted to see me in a dress. That was a few years ago, so maybe she thinks differently now. But I am wondering if there are some similar thought patterns here. Maybe it's just the dress is the issue. Talk to her and see what she suggests.

Hugs!
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Sarah B on March 31, 2024, 05:16:53 AM
Hi Gina

You said;

Quote from: Gina P on March 28, 2024, 09:13:47 PMAll day shot but it's done. And I got a great work out running up and down those stairs. Perhaps I'll tackle Social Security next week. There has got to be a better way.

Yes, there is a better way; "Shoot the Bastards."

Best Wishes and Hugs
Sarah B
Official Greeter
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on March 31, 2024, 07:31:30 AM
Happy Easter all. He has risen!!
Planning on attending church at a neighboring town with a good friend. Then going to my sons, where I was told by his wife the dress may be a bit to much. It bothers me but Ill respect thier wishes. I've had a terrible twitch in my eye the last day or two not sure if its from the stress of this meeting or what.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Sarah B on March 31, 2024, 07:03:22 PM
Hi Lori and Gina

Gina you said in one of your posts above:

Quote from: Gina P on March 30, 2024, 07:11:24 AMMy wife and I are meeting my son and his wife's father for Easter dinner. I would like to wear a nice spring colored dress. My wife disapproves since we are meeting her father for the first time.? I always dress female so I'm not sure of the problem. She just says it may be to much for them to handle. She still see's a man in a dress!! It is who and what I am now, so there is no hiding it. (not a man in dress). I will have to give this more thought. Comments, suggestions anyone?

Lori said it best:

Quote from: LoriDee on March 30, 2024, 09:44:33 AMI can understand she may be nervous about a first meeting. The whole "first impressions" thing. Maybe a compromise? You can dress feminine without wearing a dress. I am not saying hide who you are, just be a bit less "in your face" for the first meeting. Does she have something in mind for you to wear?

So yes dress feminine, but without wearing a dress, for the first couple of times.  You will not lose your femininity by doing so.

Quote from: LoriDee on March 30, 2024, 09:44:33 AMMy best friend knew me pre-transition. She has been very supportive and has commented on my hair and makeup. She said her only request was that she never wanted to see me in a dress. That was a few years ago, so maybe she thinks differently now. But I am wondering if there are some similar thought patterns here. Maybe it's just the dress is the issue. Talk to her and see what she suggests.

Hugs!

Lori, maybe its time to wear a nice dress and catch up with your best friend!

Spending more time with my brother and his family recently.  They get to see more of me when I'm in a long skirt or dress although not often.

When I stayed for a couple of night at my brothers, I wear a nightie at night.

Living in a household with just girls he is used to it, what us girls wear.  In fact when my laundry got done.  He made fun of my underwear, full briefs :icon_redface:

When I was socializing with family, I was conscious of being dressed appropriately, when I caught up with them, in other words I never dressed in a short skirt so to speak for the first time, then again I would not dress that way anyway.

As time progressed I never worried about it any more.  Most of us girls do not really dress in dresses or skirts, in the family.  So go figure.

I hope the Easter dinner went well for you Gina.

Best Wishes and Hugs
Sarah B
Official Greeter
@Gina P
@LoriDee
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on April 01, 2024, 05:42:24 AM
Dinner went well and all are excepting of me. I wore a nice top with butterflies on it and white slacks. Afterwards we went back to my sons home and they want to do a hardscape in thier back yard. "Would you help us?" I surprised myself and them by saying NO! I have enough of my own projects to finish without taking on one of theirs. I surprised myself because I usually find it hard to say no to anyone. 
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on April 04, 2024, 06:09:27 AM
We are preparing for the eclipse on Monday. One of my favorite spots to ride, in upstate NY, its in the path of totality. I thought it would be cool to ride out to some obscure lake and watch it from there. I went to Idaho for the last one and the traffic was atrocious when it was over. This time we will arrive a few days early and stay a few days after to ovoid that. I plan to take the camper, living quarter trailer. Now if the weather cooperates? So, far its looking good. 
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on April 12, 2024, 05:42:16 AM
The eclipse vacation went well. We rode the horses out 5 miles to a large pond. Tied up the horses, spread an old table cloth on the ground next to a log and watched as the sun got smaller and the clouds got thicker. No great pictures but the quiet of the woods was amazing. My wife exclaimed, "I can hear my heart beating!" It got so dark we could not see each other, then it was over. The 4 days we were there the weather was great and we got along perfectly. 
    She said it will be nice to get home but I didn't share those sentiments. My depression grew as we neared home and after being home for only 5 minutes, I broke down in tears. The bad memories of my family battles just came crashing down. I realize how much I need to move from here. Someday after my transition I hope to.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: LoriDee on April 12, 2024, 08:49:19 AM
Sometimes it is discomfort that motivates us to make changes in our lives. Sometimes the changes are as painful as the discomfort, but necessary nonetheless. It took me four years of planning to finally leave Illinois and move to South Dakota. I thought my wife was coming with me, but she decided last minute to stay with her old boyfriend instead. I left anyway and never looked back. Painful? Absolutely. Worth it? Absolutely no regrets.

I hope with all my heart that you can find the means to do what you need to do. It is your life and no one can live it for you. You get only one so why not make it a happy experience?

Hugs!
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on April 13, 2024, 09:11:27 AM
I went out to get a fishing license yesterday. The clerk helped me as best he could. Asked if I was in the system to which I replied no this is a new one. It always amazes me how men talk to me when they have not clocked me. The voice is softer and the gestures nicer. Anyway since my drivers license is now Gina, SS# is now Gina, I felt there was no reason to out myself. WRONG! The system kept spitting out my old name and would not allow a new name to be entered. I tried doing it online and same results. Argh! Now I have to contact fish and game to change my name on that as well. The name change thing is exhausting and I live in NJ one of the supposedly easier states. Just to give you an idea. First the court, then Social security, DMV for Drivers license, dept. of vital statistics(NJ), bank account- savings, checking, business checking, credit cards, 401k, mortgage, Voter ID, Tax ID for home, Business registration, Business insurance, Business credit cards, insurance on autos, business insurance, homeowners insurance, insurance on vehicles, registration on vehicles and trailers. Oh and health insurance. I'm sure I forgot a few but whew its crazy!
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: LoriDee on April 13, 2024, 11:38:39 AM
I also sent certified copies of the court order to the three credit bureaus (TransUnion, Experian, and Equifax). That helped when it matched up with what everyone else was reporting to them. It is a process that can take months. But you are getting there!
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: davina61 on April 13, 2024, 12:26:41 PM
I have been unable to change my mobile phone a/c name, I think due to them not having a system in place.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: LoriDee on April 13, 2024, 02:26:16 PM
I have Verizon. I walked into the store with my paperwork and a tech changed it on the spot. Can you do something similar with your carrier?
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Sarah B on April 14, 2024, 04:28:07 AM
Hi Davina

You said;

Quote from: davina61 on April 13, 2024, 12:26:41 PMI have been unable to change my mobile phone a/c name, I think due to them not having a system in place.

They are gate keeping maybe, dragging there heels or could not careless. So;

  • I would suggest a new carrier. (take your number with you, if you can)
  • Create a new account. (using your existing number, if you can)
  • Or use the following information against them

The year is 2024 and this 2018 legislation came into force in 2018.  Oh me Oh my!!!  So use the following;

Data Protection Information (https://www.gov.uk/data-protection) and the actual legislation link (https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2018/12/contents/enacted)

Specifically;

QuoteEveryone responsible for using personal data has to follow strict rules called 'data protection principles'. They must make sure the information is:

  •     used fairly, lawfully and transparently
  •     used for specified, explicit purposes
  •     used in a way that is adequate, relevant and limited to only what is necessary
  •     accurate and, where necessary, kept up to date
  •     kept for no longer than is necessary
  •     handled in a way that ensures appropriate security, including protection against unlawful or unauthorised processing, access, loss, destruction or damage
and

Under the Data Protection Act 2018, you have the right to find out what information the government and other organisations store about you. These include the right to:

Quote
  • be informed about how your data is being used
  • access personal data
  • have incorrect data updated
  • have data erased
  • stop or restrict the processing of your data
  • data portability (allowing you to get and reuse your data for different services)
  • object to how your data is processed in certain circumstances

In other words show them shove this legislation under their noses and ask tell them to fix your personal information, politely of course.

I hope this helps you in some small way.

Love and Hugs
Sarah B
Official Greeter
@davina61
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Sarah B on April 14, 2024, 06:33:29 PM
Hi Davina

I said the following;

Quote from: Sarah B on April 14, 2024, 04:28:07 AMIn other words show them shove this legislation under their noses and ask tell them to fix your personal information, politely of course.

In seriousness, I would go into the store / office and ask to speak to the supervisor or manager and in private.  If the counter staff say; "they can deal with the problem and ask for information", say politely and in a firm way, No and repeat your request.

I have just remembered, that I used this in a couple of instances, very early on, I did not have to contend with counter staff.  I cannot remember the details and so long ago.  In doing it this way, I was in private, one on one and nobody else would hear the conversation that would ensue.  The outcome, worked well for me as I cannot recall any bad situation occurring.

I hope this helps you in some small way.

Love and Hugs
Sarah B
Official Greeter
@davina61
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on April 17, 2024, 05:46:59 AM
I was able to get my fishing license done in my new name, with just an email to the state. One more checked off! Phone calls to the credit card companies is going a little slower. Health insurance, I have still not been able to get through. I'll keep trying.

Voice lesson went well. Therapist has me focusing on hitting certain notes and doing vowel sounds and simple words in mostly key of 'F' with a pitch analyzer. The goal is to get able to hit a note without working at it then expanding to higher notes and larger words. It shows promise.

Spent Sunday with Courtney fishing. So nice to just talk openly about our trans issues with someone who is dealing with the same things. Fishing was a bit off but as they say, "a bad day of fishing is better than a good day at work!"
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Maid Marion on April 17, 2024, 06:45:28 AM
Hi Gina,

Good luck with the voice lessons.  I found it helps if I squeeze in a couple of short practice sessions every day to change from one way of doing something to another.  I have to do this with golf.  I'll change something with my swing and it will take months before I automatically do it differently.

Marion
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: LoriDee on April 17, 2024, 10:13:30 AM
I haven't started my voice lessons yet. They are sorting out some technical issues. But in our Support Group, one of the ladies who has done the lessons said that the way she practiced was by reading aloud. It doesn't matter what but try to do some reading every day. Then periodically, record your reading and listen to how you sound. Are you hitting the pitch? Do you have trouble with certain words or phrases? I thought it was a good idea and I will be trying it myself.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Maid Marion on April 17, 2024, 12:28:17 PM
It may also help to train  yourself to avoid quick and simple answers to questions.  Ladies tend to use more complicated sentences that allow them to modulate their voice.  How they say stuff can indicate what they really mean.  As well as their body language.  Their words may say one thing but their intonation and body language may say something else entirely!
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on April 17, 2024, 03:19:43 PM
   I had done 3 months of 1 on 1 training before with a voice coach. She felt I was doing great, and I did well in the lessons but as soon as I left the office and had to think of what I was saying my voice went back to male mode. She had me reading things and that was easy in the fem voice. I didn't have to think of what I was saying.  I am going to try and follow this coach's training for now. I am supposed to train 3 times a day and I have been able to do that.
   On another note I was on the phone with my health care provider getting my name changed on that and had to sent them a copy of my drivers license. The woman says "you are very pretty". It about blew my mind. Whether she was just being nice or what I don't care. I'm taking it as a win. 
Gina
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: davina61 on April 17, 2024, 03:38:17 PM
Take all the wins dear, BTW she was correct.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on April 20, 2024, 08:13:02 AM
I went the lumber yard Thursday to order the railing for my deck, that I started last summer. Always a little uncomfortable, as the lumber yard is mans world and I go wearing my female attire and handbag. The clerk was great and treated my wife and I very nicely. Ordered a nice Black aluminum rail with spindles. Should be in in a week. Then to Kohl's shopping for a spring fall jacket for me. My wife was so great as I tried on jacket after jacket till I found one we both liked. A bright pink ("hot pink", as she said). Not in my size so I ordered it online when we got home. Picked up couple of pairs Sonoma jeans while there, to replace the female ones I've worn out. Doesn't seam like I've been out that long to wear clothes out but time does fly. 
Next stop Tractor supply to get some feed for the horses. The girl that works there is always showing me her turquoise jewelry and I show her mine. We both like the color and look. She saw me come in and came over to say hi. Then to Walmart for some groceries and a resupply of my makeup. Finished up with some fast food. A nice time out with my new BFF the wife. Before transitioning you would have to had drag me kicking and screaming into an afternoon of shopping now I love it, as long as I can buy myself something nice.  :) 
Friday, I'm on a job and the homeowner keeps saying sir, yes sir. Finally I said I prefer Mam or Miss. "Oh I was wondering if you were... Did you have the surgery yet?..Do you have a boyfriend? Argh. Finally he finished up with, "your hair looks nice for a woman...Do you color it?" Argh again. My employee is holding in laughing and about to bust. Such is the days of Gina.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Courtney G on April 20, 2024, 08:04:13 PM
Quote from: Gina P on April 20, 2024, 08:13:02 AMFriday, I'm on a job and the homeowner keeps saying sir, yes sir. Finally I said I prefer Mam or Miss. "Oh I was wondering if you were... Did you have the surgery yet?..Do you have a boyfriend? Argh. Finally he finished up with, "your hair looks nice for a woman...Do you color it?" Argh again. My employee is holding in laughing and about to bust. Such is the days of Gina.[/justify]


I read someone's suggestion that you ask "Are you circumsized?" or similar when asked those invasive questions. Or maybe "do you have any sexual performance problems that you'd had to see a doctor for?" lol Anyway, sorry about that.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on April 21, 2024, 06:08:28 AM
Quote from: Courtney G on April 20, 2024, 08:04:13 PMI read someone's suggestion that you ask "Are you circumsized?" or similar when asked those invasive questions. Or maybe "do you have any sexual performance problems that you'd had to see a doctor for?" lol Anyway, sorry about that.
Great come back. I'll have to remember that one.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: ChrissyRyan on April 21, 2024, 06:34:38 AM
Quote from: Gina P on April 20, 2024, 08:13:02 AMI went the lumber yard Thursday to order the railing for my deck, that I started last summer. Always a little uncomfortable, as the lumber yard is mans world and I go wearing my female attire and handbag. The clerk was great and treated my wife and I very nicely. Ordered a nice Black aluminum rail with spindles. Should be in in a week. Then to Kohl's shopping for a spring fall jacket for me. My wife was so great as I tried on jacket after jacket till I found one we both liked. A bright pink ("hot pink", as she said). Not in my size so I ordered it online when we got home. Picked up couple of pairs Sonoma jeans while there, to replace the female ones I've worn out. Doesn't seam like I've been out that long to wear clothes out but time does fly.
...



Gina,

I still do not like shopping much, except for clothes.  Unless I am with a friend; but, that is just as much a social time than simply shopping.

I prefer to go in and look for what I want, not window shop to any extent. 

Chrissy
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Oldandcreaky on April 21, 2024, 08:05:22 AM
QuoteOh I was wondering if you were...

If he was wondering, why did he apply "sir?"

I assume to provoke so that he could then have a figurative peek into your pants.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on April 23, 2024, 05:41:29 AM
I was able to buy a used rototiller very cheap and fix it. This should make my gardening much easer. I find the spade and my back are not good friends as I age. Still doing a lot of trail ridding with my horse, Dundee. Rode over 11 miles on Saturday. I was so sore and tired afterward.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Maid Marion on April 23, 2024, 06:41:03 AM
Hi Gina,

Good on getting a rototiller and being able to fix it!

I just fixed my garden hoses so I don't have a dissimilar metal issues causing the fittings to stick together.

I use a drain spade for gardening.  The narrow blade requires a lot less work!
I've learned to garden while squatting so I don't have to bend over to dig out shrubs.

Marion
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: ChrissyRyan on April 23, 2024, 01:57:47 PM
Tillers can be of a big help to prepare soil.  Raised gardens seem to be good at keeping weeds out, and if weeds do get in, they are easy to remove.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: LoriDee on April 23, 2024, 02:45:02 PM
When I had a garden, I learned about "Lasagna Gardening" which is a no-till project. Best crops I ever had. Highly recommended!
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: davina61 on April 23, 2024, 04:19:23 PM
Yes the no dig method.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: ChrissyRyan on April 23, 2024, 08:02:17 PM
I wonder if it is actually cheaper to buy produce at the market than home grown.

However, I know my food is organic, fresh, and it is fun to garden.

Chrissy
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on April 24, 2024, 05:43:20 AM
I absolutely love fresh tomatoes from the garden. Starting in the beginning of July to the end of October. Beets are another one of my fav's. We freeze a fair amount of spinach and corn to eat it all year. I'm not sure about the money end but the taste is far better than store bought. Did potatoes as well last year and still have boxes and boxes left.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on April 27, 2024, 07:14:34 AM
I have been taking Gabapentin for restless legs. It really didn't work and left me with brain fog all day. So I decided to stop taking it and have been in a bit of a crash all week with no ambition and not much desire to do any thing. I have struggled through with a few projects. Managed to till the garden and cleared out some stumps that needed to be dug out in the pasture.
Had my counseling session last night which always makes me feel better. Then out to the dinner for a bite. Stopped of at the Tractor supply store for some horse feed and seeds for the garden which I hope to get in soon. Railing for the deck should be in soon. Plenty to do, now if I can just find where I left my ambition.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: davina61 on April 27, 2024, 10:50:13 AM
I have periods of CBA , bit of nice weather and a few ideas and back up and running.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on May 04, 2024, 07:39:36 AM
  I've finished with the Gabapentin withdraw. Dizziness, mode swings, etc. Feeling much better now and found a herbals that works for the restless legs. Diet has been a real challenge, not much loss, 3lbs, but some shape changes. Stomach is slimming and boobs continue to grow. Had on a nice pushup bra and was overflowing, much to my delight. Then wore a tight fitting top and shorts to Walmart last night. My wife urged me to button up so as not to show the cleavage. Still looked good, and was Mam'ed a couple of times. Been hitting the elliptical every night. Defiantly helping tone me up without adding bulk.
  Deck railing came in, now 2 days of rain forecast. It will have to wait. 
  Only 39 days till bottom surgery!! Whoohoo! So much I want to get done before then and starting to feel the crunch.
   Voice lessons are going well. Focusing a lot on voice strengthen and range exercises. Less breathiness, more emphasis on speaking each word more clearly projected out and not from the chest or throat. I'm working with a nice voice app which helps with the pitch and offers playback.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Maid Marion on May 04, 2024, 08:22:17 AM
Hi Gina,

You have been a busy girl!

I'm busy working on the yard.  I'm taking out the invasive plants.
Lots of work but I now have the time to do that!  Plants die if they never have leaves.
Some just need a good whack with a shovel or Sawzall!
Which reminds to get my DeWalt out of the basement.

Marion
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Courtney G on May 04, 2024, 07:02:05 PM
I can attest - you're looking great, Gina! And I'm super excited about your upcoming surgery. I so happy that the day is almost upon us. Looking forward to visiting while you recuperate.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on May 05, 2024, 08:01:50 AM
   Thanks all. Courtney, so good to have a friend who I can confide in and talk to. Your invaluable. Added to that your great fisherwoman!
   Went on our weekly trail ride yesterday. We were able to beat the rain that was moving. Just a great day then a customer calls for an emergency repair and it took me 2 hrs just to get the door closed. One of those repairs where everything went wrong. My wife said, "see you were not supposed to go!" There will always be repairs where things go wrong.
  It's raining here and supposed to continue all day. I'm looking forward to a slow start and and getting some inside stuff done. 
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Gina P on May 06, 2024, 05:35:51 AM
Trail ridding yesterday, I had to dismount to move a branch out of the trail. When I went to mount up I noticed I was having a hard time reaching the stirrup with my foot. I mentioned to my wife if I was getting shorter or the stirrups were farther up? To which she replied you are getting shorter. Call it pelvic tilt or old age or both, went from 5'11" to 5'8". It made me happy that she noticed it too.
Title: Re: Gina's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on May 06, 2024, 12:45:44 PM
@Gina P
Dear Gina: 

I hate to "break it" to you....
...but as one gets older their spine compresses, so it is just not only the HRT.

In a MTF transition journey it is NOT necessarily an unwelcome development.


HUGS, Danielle