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Title: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: Wild Flower on June 15, 2011, 09:25:09 AM
I found a guy who will.... (oh another thread), finance the whole transsexual journey... I found him on a transgendered dating website that was recommended here yesterday so I been chatting with him all morning.

So he will finance..

hormones, SRS, breast augmentation, FFS, and he'll make be passable basically...

He has a weird fetish about this too, but he seems like a normal guy besides this........

Am I am insane but I am seriously considering this guy's offer, he'll take me all the way since he knows how to do this; doctor visits, psychiatrist visits, and all. Free room and board too...
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: Amy85 on June 15, 2011, 09:33:05 AM
I'd be very worried about getting into something so serious with someone you've just met... for safety reasons among others.
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: tekla on June 15, 2011, 09:33:27 AM
One: nothing is ever 'free.'  You'll pay for it somehow. 

Two: Since this 'journey' takes a couple of years what happens when you get halfway there and he's found someone else to 'finance'.
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: Wild Flower on June 15, 2011, 09:40:09 AM
Quote from: tekla on June 15, 2011, 09:33:27 AM
One: nothing is ever 'free.'  You'll pay for it somehow. 

Two: Since this 'journey' takes a couple of years what happens when you get halfway there and he's found someone else to 'finance'.
Well, I'm paying my time I guess cleaning and stuff. And he does this as a serious "hobby" like I said, he's weird lol.
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: tekla on June 15, 2011, 09:43:01 AM
I'm paying my time I guess cleaning and stuff.

You know I can get you backstage, ask me how.  (Note: It does not involve cooking, cleaning or any of that).

he's weird
Are you ready for how weird weird really gets in the real world?
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: Wild Flower on June 15, 2011, 09:46:59 AM
Quote from: tekla on June 15, 2011, 09:43:01 AM
I'm paying my time I guess cleaning and stuff.

You know I can get you backstage, ask me how.  (Note: It does not involve cooking, cleaning or any of that).

he's weird
Are you ready for how weird weird really gets in the real world?

Well he's not so weird that I am turning this down yet.... I am looking at life through every angle possible.
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: tekla on June 15, 2011, 09:50:25 AM
Well here's the way that seems to give the most success to the most people in the "life" game.  Find a way to do it yourself.
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: JungianZoe on June 15, 2011, 09:56:28 AM
Quote from: Wild Flower on June 15, 2011, 09:40:09 AM
Well, I'm paying my time I guess cleaning and stuff. And he does this as a serious "hobby" like I said, he's weird lol.

A freelancing financier of femininity?  I'm with the others... something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: JessicaH on June 15, 2011, 10:03:38 AM
IF you consider going forward with this, I'd start with background checks, full credit reports, etc.  It's amazing what you can learn about someone with those documents.
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: VeryGnawty on June 15, 2011, 10:27:01 AM
Quote from: tekla on June 15, 2011, 09:43:01 AM
he's weird
Are you ready for how weird weird really gets in the real world?

My first guess would be:  no.

If I found someone who would be willing to pour thousands of dollars of his own money to change my sex, I would be running for the hills.  That has "bad news" written all over it.
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: Hikari on June 15, 2011, 04:04:57 PM
Sounds too good to be true, I mean it could be legit...but, personally I was never one to play the odds when they seem that stacked against me. Be careful, desperation can lead to some pretty poor judgment.

Whatever you do, have a legal binding contract for any deals you make with anyone. If someone isn't willing to put it in writing and have it notarized, then they are too risky to even take a hand out from in my view.
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: kate durcal on June 15, 2011, 09:45:44 PM
Quote from: Wild Flower on June 15, 2011, 09:25:09 AM
I found a guy who will.... (oh another thread), finance the whole transsexual journey... I found him on a transgendered dating website that was recommended here yesterday so I been chatting with him all morning.

So he will finance..

hormones, SRS, breast augmentation, FFS, and he'll make be passable basically...

He has a weird fetish about this too, but he seems like a normal guy besides this........

Am I am insane but I am seriously considering this guy's offer, he'll take me all the way since he knows how to do this; doctor visits, psychiatrist visits, and all. Free room and board too...

I have been following your postings, and I am going to assume the best about you. You are indeed a wildflower, an young, confused, desperate, lonely girl trying to find your way in this world.

Many pf the nice Gals in this forum have give you good advice, yet you keep coming with this threads like the trip to the Netherlands, and now the rich weird guy who....etc. Well, if  you go through with one of this stories, you may find yourself facing a serial killer.

I know that this is not what you want to hear, but I feel sympathy for you. Calm down and work for what ever you want, there are not easy ways out.

Hugs,

Kate D
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: heatherrose on June 15, 2011, 10:21:42 PM


Quote from: VeryGnawty on June 15, 2011, 10:27:01 AM"bad news" written all over it.


If you don't think he is expecting some "TAT" for buying you some "TITS"
I am selling time shares at my ocean front resort in Arizona and for a limited time
I am offering a 27% discount to all my good friends here at Susan's.
They're going fast, I assume I can put you down for TWO?


Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: tekla on June 15, 2011, 10:42:24 PM
Worse part is reality is even less glamorous than Silence of the Lambs.
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: heatherrose on June 15, 2011, 10:58:38 PM

Quote from: Wild Flower on June 15, 2011, 09:40:09 AM....he does this as a serious "hobby" like I said, he's weird lol.


Quote from: Clarice StarlingHe's making himself a woman suit, like I said, he's weird lol.


Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: April Dawne on June 15, 2011, 11:02:31 PM
Nice work Heather, thank you :)
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: Wild Flower on June 15, 2011, 11:59:03 PM
Quote from: April Dawne on June 15, 2011, 11:02:31 PM
Nice work Heather, thank you :)

Thanks for the link lol

I found the guy through that transgendered site

anyways...
we haven't chat since yesterday,

but hes real, but you're right, he's expecting sex lol
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: April Dawne on June 16, 2011, 01:25:39 AM
I had a profile there for awhile but seemed to get nothing but ->-bleeped-<-s or really creepy guys that I would never bother with. Like any online thing, being careful and watching out for yourself is important.
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: Joelene9 on June 16, 2011, 02:29:30 AM
  This sounds too good to be true.  Sounds like a scammer or a sugar daddy.  Be very careful here.
  Joelene
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: Sephirah on June 16, 2011, 03:26:13 AM
I guess the question you have to ask yourself is whether you want to be seen as a person or a project.
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: Wild Flower on June 16, 2011, 04:09:17 AM
Quote from: Joelene9 on June 16, 2011, 02:29:30 AM
  This sounds too good to be true.  Sounds like a scammer or a sugar daddy.  Be very careful here.
  Joelene

Do you want his email lmao? (not that I'll share it though since I don't want no one hurt except myself)

But yeah he's not a scammer or a sugar daddy, he's doing it because it gets joy from seeing guys becoming women. He's just like doing it... weird, but hey.... it's a weird world out there! He does this for a professional hobby!
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: Joelene9 on June 16, 2011, 04:12:19 AM
  No, just be careful!
  Joelene.
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: Padma on June 16, 2011, 04:19:17 AM
Quote from: Wild Flower on June 15, 2011, 11:59:03 PM
but hes real, but you're right, he's expecting sex lol

So... if he knows the score with transitioning folk, then presumably he's also prepared to have your libido drop through the floor somewhere along the way?
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: ~RoadToTrista~ on June 16, 2011, 04:22:08 AM
I thought you weren't transitioning, w/e. But in my opinion he sounds like a creep.
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: Wild Flower on June 16, 2011, 04:25:13 AM
Quote from: Padma on June 16, 2011, 04:19:17 AM
So... if he knows the score with transitioning folk, then presumably he's also prepared to have your libido drop through the floor somewhere along the way?

Probably, I don't know. I know 100% I am not going to contact him again.
I guess I like thinking, "Oh if I did this, then I'll be the most beautiful transsexual woman"

I had another guy offering the same thing too, and he's in California, but this guy is even weirder... he does this because he thinks you're a straight male or something, and forces you to become  a woman.. This one is just bad news...
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: Padma on June 16, 2011, 04:41:40 AM
If you become a beautiful transsexual woman, you'll feel a lot happier if you owe it to yourself, and not to someone else.

Plus (and sorry to bring this up, but...) we all get old; so you need to decide if you're also willing to become an old transsexual woman. Not that this implies "not beautiful" but ask yourself what exactly it is you're after, because if it's too much just about wanting to be a "babe", one day that's going to pass you by - so there needs to be more to it than that for you, if you expect transition to make you happy.
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: tekla on June 16, 2011, 06:54:47 AM
he's also prepared to have your libido drop through the floor somewhere along the way?

Like that would matter.  Sugar for sugar, salt for salt.
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: VannaSiamese on June 17, 2011, 12:00:03 PM
Sounds like a bad idea to me.  Even if his motifs are pure, there is no greater reward that working for something you want... and then getting it.   Accepting his offer will mean accepting dependence on him... and I can assure you, the relationship will entail a lot more than cooking, cleaning and occasional sex. 
Quote from: Sephirah on June 16, 2011, 03:26:13 AM
I guess the question you have to ask yourself is whether you want to be seen as a person or a project.
This statement sums it all up. 
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: Padma on June 17, 2011, 01:52:04 PM
Quote from: tekla on June 16, 2011, 06:54:47 AM
he's also prepared to have your libido drop through the floor somewhere along the way?

Like that would matter.  Sugar for sugar, salt for salt.

Please explain, all I can find is song lyrics!
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: heatherrose on June 18, 2011, 02:01:21 AM


Sugar for sugar, salt for salt.

"....it's your own damn fault"


You get out according to what you put in.


Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: Hermione01 on June 18, 2011, 03:09:20 AM
Quote from: Wild Flower on June 16, 2011, 04:09:17 AM
Do you want his email lmao? (not that I'll share it though since I don't want no one hurt except myself)

But yeah he's not a scammer or a sugar daddy, he's doing it because it gets joy from seeing guys becoming women. He's just like doing it... weird, but hey.... it's a weird world out there! He does this for a professional hobby!

Sometimes your posts sound like you are mocking trans people.
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: jillian on June 18, 2011, 06:13:03 AM
Am I the only one who fantasized about this?

Not that I would do it, but I remember thinking about how expensive it would be, and how it would be awesome if someone loved me so much they would take me through the whole process.

Granted I was a teenager at this time, and didnt understand what har work and responsibility can get you, but hey, Ive dreamed of this.



I think to start a relationship like this is strange though, and one has to wonder what motivates a person to put this kind of offer out there.

Wildflower...just be careful, and dont let your desires, and dreams get the best of you.

Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: ~RoadToTrista~ on June 18, 2011, 06:25:06 AM
Quote from: jillian on June 18, 2011, 06:13:03 AM
Am I the only one who fantasized about this?

No, lol, but this sounds too good to be true.
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: tekla on June 18, 2011, 07:02:37 AM
I always took it that you are paying in kind for what you are getting.  If he's paying for your dreams to come true, you're going to to pay by making his dreams come true. 
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: April Dawne on June 18, 2011, 09:53:11 AM
Quote from: tekla on June 18, 2011, 07:02:37 AM
I always took it that you are paying in kind for what you are getting.  If he's paying for your dreams to come true, you're going to to pay by making his dreams come true.

Yes, and those could end up being pretty horrifying dreams.

I seriously doubt that a man would shell out multiple thousands of dollars to a perfect stranger they just met online to pay for their transition. A professional hobby? Doubtful. I'm also bothered by the frequent mention of "men becoming beautiful transsexual women" as if our lives are some glamorous fashion statement.

Reading through posts, I get the feeling this person is just messing with us, and not at all serious.
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: Sera on June 18, 2011, 10:02:39 AM
Am I the only one who thinks this guy is a screaming psycho murderer?

If he says "Before I start doing this, you have to meet me here" than he definitely wants to eat you. Or maybe it is one of those things where a gang of friends appears from behind the furniture and they have selected you for some sort of exploitment... Go meet a guy in a park... Not a hunting grounds for his people...
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: A on June 18, 2011, 12:35:51 PM
Again, Wild Flower, this screams danger and stupid. You should give up hooking up with weirdos and find some normal way to finance.
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: jamie nicole on June 19, 2011, 11:39:12 PM
Quote from: Wild Flower on June 15, 2011, 09:25:09 AM
I found a guy who will.... (oh another thread), finance the whole transsexual journey... I found him on a transgendered dating website that was recommended here yesterday so I been chatting with him all morning.

So he will finance..

hormones, SRS, breast augmentation, FFS, and he'll make be passable basically...

He has a weird fetish about this too, but he seems like a normal guy besides this........

Am I am insane but I am seriously considering this guy's offer, he'll take me all the way since he knows how to do this; doctor visits, psychiatrist visits, and all. Free room and board too...

Be afraid, be very very afraid....this person would most likely turn into the green river killer, ted bundy....one of those types!  I'd be very cautious of anyone met on the internet especially knowing the publics general perceptions and thoughts about those of us that are transgender!
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: Carlita on June 20, 2011, 11:34:21 AM
I have a slightly different take on this ... perhaps because I write stories for a living - stories that involve murder, torture and twisted psychology. So I think in story terms ...

For what it's worth, I don't think that any serial killer would go to all the trouble of paying for a series of operations and THEN killing the person he'd been transforming. Killers are gripped by compulsions. They want gratification. They're very unlikely to want to defer that gratification for months and months. So either the whole thing is just a lure to ensnare vulnerable MTF transsexuals without any intention of funding a single procedure (although God knows there must be simpler ways of doing that)... or he really does get off on the idea of transformation.

If this man were one of my characters, I would portray him as someone who buys other girls the operations he would love to have himself, but does not dare. So he creates perfect surrogates, turning them into the perfect women he, too dreams of being. In this scenario, his intentions would not be murderous ... but they would of course be manipulative and possessive.

If he creates the new you, then he owns the woman you become. You're bought and paid for. Now, many a girl knows what it's like to have a life funded by a man, and the perils of that situation are obvious. But I can also see the attractions of the situation, too, both from your point of view ... and his.

And it's not such an unusual story, after all. One of the most popular, beloved musicals of all time tells of a man who transforms a woman, falls in love with her, feels he possesses her, loses her ... but then wins her back because she chooses to go to him ...

... My Fair Lady
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: Jayne on June 20, 2011, 01:41:02 PM
Nothing in life is ever free, Run for the hills!!
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: kate durcal on June 20, 2011, 07:22:36 PM
Quote from: Carlita on June 20, 2011, 11:34:21 AM
I have a slightly different take on this ... perhaps because I write stories for a living - stories that involve murder, torture and twisted psychology. So I think in story terms ...

For what it's worth, I don't think that any serial killer would go to all the trouble of paying for a series of operations and THEN killing the person he'd been transforming. Killers are gripped by compulsions.

He will trap you with the promises, then kill you.

Serial killers seldomlyy act on compulsion; they are good planers, metodical, and full of pacience.

Kate D
Title: Re: How Desperate to become a Woman!?
Post by: Cindy on June 21, 2011, 03:06:48 AM
Wildflower,
You seem to have an 'obsession' with finding someone who  will pay and support you through years of therapy and surgery who will want nothing or little in return; except that you will be a beautiful woman.

Life doesn't work like that.

If you do hook up with someone who offers you these things in the USA or overseas (a previous post) you will suffer.

If these posts of yours are fantasy. Fine. State so. If they are reality, you may have problems that you should seek professional help for.


Cindy