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Title: MTF's get in more trouble?
Post by: arbon on June 28, 2011, 07:45:12 PM
Just wondering why it is usually MTF trans people getting into legal trouble and making the headlines where as  FTM's seldom do?

Title: Re: MTF's get in more trouble?
Post by: LordKAT on June 28, 2011, 07:46:02 PM
Less of us?
Title: Re: MTF's get in more trouble?
Post by: Sabriel Facrin on June 28, 2011, 08:20:27 PM
I think it's mostly about the fact that MtFs have been having public attention for the longest time...'status quo is god' or however TVtropes put it. XD ---But yeah, the news is about handing out scoops, and if a topic's unfamiliar then it's harder for people to gulp down, and if the topic is not distressing it's not as alerting and provocative for people to look into.  It's certainly distressing for a person to be in trouble and be FtM, but it's hard enough for people to take the idea 'tomboy' seriously, let alone the idea of a genuine man with physically feminine birth.  The idea of male-towards-female crossdressers (When not involving taking up other-sex benefits) and stuff have really embedded themselves in history, so people are more familiar-like with MtFs. (keyword 'familiar-like' considering the obvious ignorances) So if it's going to take too long to clarify transexual FtM there's "no point" in their eyes.
That's, just what I think...

(Edited for slight clarification on the crossdresser part of my post)
Title: Re: MTF's get in more trouble?
Post by: Muffins on June 28, 2011, 11:24:16 PM
ftms generally blend better? when mtfs don't blend they rreeaaallllyyyy don't blend? which the media love to sensationalise and play with?
Title: Re: MTF's get in more trouble?
Post by: EmilyElizabeth on June 29, 2011, 12:19:33 AM
Sexism and transmisogyny also play big roles in it in addition to FTM passing ability
Title: Re: MTF's get in more trouble?
Post by: Ann Onymous on June 29, 2011, 05:47:46 AM
Quote from: arbon on June 28, 2011, 07:45:12 PM
Just wondering why it is usually MTF trans people getting into legal trouble and making the headlines where as  FTM's seldom do?

I would opine some of it is sheer numbers.  Now, that being said, when an F2M drops it in the legal grease, it has tended to be far more serious conduct.  Sadly, the most notable incidents I have seen just here in Texas have been a case prosecuted as Murder plus a couple of sexually-related offenses.  They made the news but did not have the stalkerazzi follow-up stories precisely because they tended not to be released to a bond status. 

Some of the M2F cases that end up in the courts would wind up with media basically trying to follow a higher profile case looking for other scandals to report about...
Title: Re: MTF's get in more trouble?
Post by: Genevieve Swann on July 01, 2011, 06:51:13 AM
Maybe because there are many more out and about. If many are like me they have little if any tolerance for transphobic people and let them know about it. I find voicing my opinion sometimes gets me in trouble. "Disorderly conduct" for merely voicing my feelings. What happened the the first amendment right to freedom of speech. I guess it only applies in certain locations.
Title: Re: MTF's get in more trouble?
Post by: Ann Onymous on July 01, 2011, 08:06:51 AM
Quote from: Genevieve Swann on July 01, 2011, 06:51:13 AM
What happened the the first amendment right to freedom of speech. I guess it only applies in certain locations.

First Amendment protections are not an unfettered license to say anything anyone chooses...it also does not preclude a private entity from requesting that a vocal person be exited from the premises.  The Amendment deals with governmental restrictions, not private restrictions. 
Title: Re: MTF's get in more trouble?
Post by: SkylerKts on July 01, 2011, 07:35:12 PM
Cause M2F are straight up Goddesses and society is JEALOUS!
Title: Re: MTF's get in more trouble?
Post by: tekla on July 02, 2011, 10:32:21 AM
My guess is that they are much more likely to self-medicate and abuse drugs, and the worst part about recreational drugs is that their legal status makes them the entrance to the entire criminal underworld.