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Hello!

I am currently making a video game for the android phone.  It is a classic RPG based in a world of extreme prejudice and segregation.  The heroes are forced to form a band, rise  up and cause a revolution on the corrupt government, earning equality and accpetance for all walks of life.

You can check up on the characters and other things here;
http://zaftiggames.tumblr.com/ (http://zaftiggames.tumblr.com/)

One character is a FTM Transsexual.

The concept for him is done (kinda).

He's going to be a mutant with electrokenisis, the ability to generate and contorl electricity.  In the game world, he runs the underground railroad for people who are persecuted.

Stylewise, he's going have an Elite Beat Agents/Men In Black/Ninja feel to him.  His weapon of choice is a metal staff which he uses as a lightning rod, helping him to contorl his powers.

This design is of course open to change, should any of it be offencive, silly or a better idea is passed along.


However, my knowledge of this community and the issues it goes through is very limited.

So if you had a soap box and a captive audience, what would you like to say?

Update

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Let me know what you think!

Interesting.

It depends if he wants to be political about being FTM or not. Does he want to emphasize his status as trans or does he want to be in stealth?

Like I would fight for acceptance and equality but would remain in stealth. But some people wouldn't.

Quote from: Da Monkey on July 27, 2011, 12:00:22 PM
Interesting.

It depends if he wants to be political about being FTM or not. Does he want to emphasize his status as trans or does he want to be in stealth?

Like I would fight for acceptance and equality but would remain in stealth. But some people wouldn't.

Interesting thought.

I think stealthy would be the best suited for the game itself.  As people who are different are arrested and exiled in the game world.  And would be a good surprize for the player.

If you would keep it a 'surprise', how exactly do you plan on revealing his trans status?
Plus, it sounds awesome.

Quote from: Solobear on July 27, 2011, 12:20:41 PM
If you would keep it a 'surprise', how exactly do you plan on revealing his trans status?
Plus, it sounds awesome.

I have absoluetly no idea :D

Which is why I'm here.  How would YOU like the average joe to find out that the character they've been playing for the last X hours wasn't born a guy?

Accidentally?
They just tell them?
Humourously?
Through romantic involvement?

If stealth, no way to be shown as trans as that is what stealth is.  There is an inbetween tho. Just make him not be open to the world about himself maybe more open to your 'resistance' members.

If he is stealth maybe it doesn't have to be revealed that he is FTM. You could make small hints and situations throughout the game like, maybe his status id card or something has F on it. then maybe one of his super hero friends sees it and they ask what that is about he can just be like 'uhh well there was a situation when I was born, I was declared female at birth' but not actually admit still that he is trans. kind of make him always beat around the bush maybe. stuff like that? not sure how in depth the game goes.

Quote from: LordKAT on July 27, 2011, 12:41:27 PM
If stealth, no way to be shown as trans as that is what stealth is.  There is an inbetween tho. Just make him not be open to the world about himself maybe more open to your 'resistance' members.

Hmmm.... okay.  I like that idea.

Obviously a great deal of trust needs to be gained first.

So what would his feelings be around revealing this?

Does he want to so that he can be accepted fully with his friends?
Does he feel like he has too even though he doesn't really want to?
etc.

Quote from: Da Monkey on July 27, 2011, 12:43:04 PM
If he is stealth maybe it doesn't have to be revealed that he is FTM. You could make small hints and situations throughout the game like, maybe his status id card or something has F on it. then maybe one of his super hero friends sees it and they ask what that is about he can just be like 'uhh well there was a situation when I was born, I was declared female at birth' but not actually admit still that he is trans. kind of make him always beat around the bush maybe. stuff like that? not sure how in depth the game goes.

That will work because I want this game to be deep.

He's the 4th character out of 12 that the player will meet, so there will be lots of time and situations for many little hints to appear

if his out and proud trans then give him some cool trans earings (got some myself)
boy necklace.
or tatoos.. ^^ there always cool

oh I forgot the bracelet I guess many Tboy got them to hide the fact of having small wrists.

Quote from: Natkat on July 27, 2011, 01:02:59 PM
if his out and proud trans then give him some cool trans earings (got some myself)
boy necklace.
or tatoos.. ^^ there always cool

oh I forgot the bracelet I guess many Tboy got them to hide the fact of having small wrists.

Sure!  ;D

Send me some examples!  ;D

btw
"normal people dosent exist, only people pretending to be, they must live in fear for there secret to be discoved."
Is awesome.

If being different would get you killed, wearing jewelry would be the last thing you do. Well unless all men in your game world wear the same type jewelry. 

It would not be unreasonable for your FTM character to be part of a resistance with a friend ( or not so friendly) person from before transitioning or attempting to transition. They would know the past and you could have conversations between those people on some hassles the FTM needs to deal with to stay in known to the majority of others. I don't think most of us want to be 'out and proud' and even less so on a world that is antagonistic toward you.

I think it's really awesome you bothered to come on here and ask us all what we think, so props for that! ;D

As to the character, I think the best thing would be to keep the fact that they're trans quite hush, and like other members have said, to just hint at it through the game, or have him be more open with the resistance people. One thing I think is important though is that you don't ever treat it like a bad thing, and don't have any of the characters then call him 'she' or treat him like any less of a man than they did before they knew.

I think the best thing for the community itself would be to not have it become that big of a deal, and have him just be a normal character who just happens to be trans. :P

Hey, thanks for all the replies!  This is great!  ;D

Okay, so his trans side is going to be hush, but dropping hints every now and then would be great.

What kind of hints would those be?  I need examples! :)

Quote from: Halollet on July 27, 2011, 01:10:17 PM
Sure!  ;D

Send me some examples!  ;D

btw
"normal people dosent exist, only people pretending to be, they must live in fear for there secret to be discoved."
Is awesome.

yeah, I found it in a folder I read about a queer person who wrote down his thoughts about gender, and sexuality, it was a very interesting reading and this quote is diffidently my favorite because its so true.
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If your character is out and proud then add the transsymbol somewhere ^^ but all these things as necklace and so on is cool in general.
http://ayor-jewelry.com/prodimages/categories/transgender.jpg (http://ayor-jewelry.com/prodimages/categories/transgender.jpg)
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I dont know the character in person but it should probebly be something metal, leather or wood, because that pretty boyish..
http://www.sandboxsouvenirs.com/zen/images/jewelry/bracelets/P9314JWB.jpg (http://www.sandboxsouvenirs.com/zen/images/jewelry/bracelets/P9314JWB.jpg)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_adICbjC4xYw/SlQAMP_gvRI/AAAAAAAABEk/3ba8Kse33vE/s400/Ruble's+Rubber+Stainless+Steel+Chain+Bracelet.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_adICbjC4xYw/SlQAMP_gvRI/AAAAAAAABEk/3ba8Kse33vE/s400/Ruble's+Rubber+Stainless+Steel+Chain+Bracelet.jpg)
http://www.fashionjewelleryhouse.co.uk/fashion-jewellery-blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Mens-Jewellery-Leather-Beads-Bracelets.jpg (http://www.fashionjewelleryhouse.co.uk/fashion-jewellery-blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Mens-Jewellery-Leather-Beads-Bracelets.jpg)

and I got a thing for these kind of tatoos, + there very maculine, it rare to see girls have them.
http://www.artux.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Tribal-Shoulder-Tattoo3.jpg (http://www.artux.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Tribal-Shoulder-Tattoo3.jpg)
http://tribaltats.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/d9c928c5cc0_f260.jpg.jpg (http://tribaltats.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/d9c928c5cc0_f260.jpg.jpg)

Do you need any music?  I have composed for a game before

Quote from: VannaSiamese on July 27, 2011, 01:55:56 PM
Do you need any music?  I have composed for a game before

Yes please!

There's going to be lots of locations plus if I can manage it, I would like each character to have their own theme.  Final Fantasy 6 style! :D

Love those ideas Natkat

Also, another character is intersex and I need help with that too

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,102664.msg762565.html#msg762565 (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,102664.msg762565.html#msg762565)

Mmm, well I like androgynous female character who passes as male more, but that's probably too anime. >.<

Vanna what game? :o

Oh and is this game gonna be on ITunes too? I'd download it. ^.^

Quote from: Halollet on July 27, 2011, 02:14:14 PM
Yes please!

There's going to be lots of locations plus if I can manage it, I would like each character to have their own theme.  Final Fantasy 6 style! :D

Love those ideas Natkat

Also, another character is intersex and I need help with that too

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,102664.msg762565.html#msg762565 (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,102664.msg762565.html#msg762565)

Hehe that's what I do... themes... like Final Fantasy 6.  Their composer, Nobuo Uematsu, is my all time favorite composer... I have a similar style as him.  The idea is to write a main theme, and then compose many related themes for all the characters that play around the same keys or chord progressions.  I will see what I can come up with... but at the moment I'm in the middle of trying to change my style up... I've become too comfortable with certain keys.  For example, I could write you a symphony in B flat minor =P
Oh, the song I did was for a free server in Ultima Online... nothing fantastic.  It's a fun song though =)
Here is a recent video of me improving... the Theme like songs don't really start until 5:40.  I also discarded a lot of this music... it's not my favorite work that I've done, except for what happens at 9:25... I like that =)
New Piano Improv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwP5flZBoc4#)

Quote from: VannaSiamese on July 27, 2011, 11:10:26 PM
Hehe that's what I do... themes... like Final Fantasy 6.  Their composer, Nobuo Uematsu, is my all time favorite composer... I have a similar style as him.  The idea is to write a main theme, and then compose many related themes for all the characters that play around the same keys or chord progressions.  I will see what I can come up with... but at the moment I'm in the middle of trying to change my style up... I've become too comfortable with certain keys.  For example, I could write you a symphony in B flat minor =P
Oh, the song I did was for a free server in Ultima Online... nothing fantastic.  It's a fun song though =)
Here is a recent video of me improving... the Theme like songs don't really start until 5:40.  I also discarded a lot of this music... it's not my favorite work that I've done, except for what happens at 9:25... I like that =)
New Piano Improv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwP5flZBoc4#)

Wow... okay... wow... you seriously have skillz.  I'm jealous!!

When listening to you play, two other examples popped into my head, first a game called perfect cherry blossom, which has beautiful music!

Perfect Cherry Blossom Normal All Clear: Stage 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYh32cFXQ34#)

and also the fight scene from Advent Children with Tifa

Final Fantasy Advent Children - Tifa fights with Loz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGI38w0HhPA#)

I seriously dont' see why we can't have the game's music be all or at least mostly beautiful piano music.  *ponders*

how neat! wish i could contribute somehow, but i think i'm a bit useless in this situation, unless you happen to need an anthro character haha.

Yay for the chubby charaters :3

What I still need is examples of hints that I can drop in the game.

This can even come from real life oopses that you've heard about or done yourself :P

The more people can personally relate to these characters, the better!  ;D


And for some reason... I can't send Personal Messages here yet :(

Vanna, we need to hook up, drop me a line at jlproductions at rogers dot com!

Quote from: Halollet on July 28, 2011, 08:09:33 AM
What I still need is examples of hints that I can drop in the game.

This can even come from real life oopses that you've heard about or done yourself :P

The more people can personally relate to these characters, the better!  ;D


And for some reason... I can't send Personal Messages here yet :(

Vanna, we need to hook up, drop me a line at jlproductions at rogers dot com!

hmm well what kind of type of person is it?

how long in trandition?
maculine/femenine
gay/straight
how was the comming out for parrents?

I thouth about a character who got suporting friends but not suporting famely, and also alot of hatecrimes going on every day.

Quote from: Natkat on July 28, 2011, 08:57:43 AM
hmm well what kind of type of person is it?

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I thouth about a character who got suporting friends but not suporting famely, and also alot of hatecrimes going on every day.

how long in trandition? A long time.
maculine/femenine? More Masculine.
how was the comming out for parrents?  Would probably be really really horrible as his choice to change genders is almost/basically against the law and he would be persecuted, exiled or killed for it.

gay/straight?  I have no idea

I don't even know how to answer that actually, so I need some education on the subject.

... actually, I havent even dropped his name.  His name is Evan, but he was born Eve.

So... if Evan likes women, that would make HIM straight, but Evan is actually Eve that would mean that SHE is gay, but she is now a he so..... ugh.  My head!

Help? :)

Quote from: Halollet on July 28, 2011, 11:42:12 AM
gay/straight?  I have no idea

I don't even know how to answer that actually, so I need some education on the subject.

... actually, I havent even dropped his name.  His name is Evan, but he was born Eve.

So... if Evan likes women, that would make HIM straight, but Evan is actually Eve that would mean that SHE is gay, but she is now a he so..... ugh.  My head!

Help? :)

Hahahahah slow down, it's okay.

So:

If Evan was born Eve (who identified once as a woman who likes women(lesbian)) but now identifies and acknowledged he is a man that likes women then Evan is straight.

If, however, Evan identified as a man and likes men then Evan is gay.

Quote from: Halollet on July 28, 2011, 11:42:12 AM
how long in trandition? A long time.
maculine/femenine? More Masculine.
how was the comming out for parrents?  Would probably be really really horrible as his choice to change genders is almost/basically against the law and he would be

hmm something like this? or is it too anime? (sorry my style are pretty much like that)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/845/tegninger005.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/845/tegninger005.jpg/)

Quote from: Natkat on July 28, 2011, 12:59:29 PM
hmm something like this? or is it too anime? (sorry my style are pretty much like that)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/845/tegninger005.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/845/tegninger005.jpg/)

I actually like that, because I like your ideas of the tatoos.  :D

Okay to sum up the character.

Born as Eve.
Realize at a young age that something was off.
Changed to Evan.
He finds women hot.
Parents totally outraged at him.
Evan left to go underground and start helping others like himself hide from persecution.
Now he has built himself up as a thorn in the side of the bad guys as he's very good at making their prisoners dissappear.

So... how to hint that he was a she.

Actually.  In the beginning of the game, someone has to get baddly hurt inorder for them to stay behind and recruit a new character.

So if Evan got baddly injured and then refused to have any medic or doctor take a look at him in fear of his secret getting out,
Would that work?  ???

perhaps, start your hints out very subtly, like someone feeling they knew him in the past but can't remember where, or ask him if he has a sister.

Quote from: LordKAT on July 28, 2011, 01:30:22 PM
perhaps, start your hints out very subtly, like someone feeling they knew him in the past but can't remember where, or ask him if he has a sister.

Yeah, that'll work.  I think I can add that in into another conversation so its less obvious.

Now, Evan hasn't had any real surgery or hormone changes because they are almost imposible to get in the game world, meaning he still has breasts.

How would a Evan react to things like getting hit on unexpectedly?
And are there conversations that he would find awkward?

Quote from: Halollet on July 28, 2011, 02:59:43 PM
Yeah, that'll work.  I think I can add that in into another conversation so its less obvious.

Now, Evan hasn't had any real surgery or hormone changes because they are almost imposible to get in the game world, meaning he still has breasts.

How would a Evan react to things like getting hit on unexpectedly?
And are there conversations that he would find awkward?

oh I misunderstood as he would have got pretty far with that thing...
well if he haven't got surgery he might have a big hoody on, or something like that to cover it and probebly not liking people to touch him like hugging, and so on (know many trans people who sensitive about that.)
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hit on like flirting? hmm I guess he would be a popular type but still very shy because he scared they might find out..
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and he would find it akward when people question his gender.

Make flashbacks with an unknown girl as a child from his childhood, then make him slowly realize it used to be him?
He needs to have a reason as to why he went underground, use this as his reason?

I understood that to already  be the reason. Your flash back idea would ony work if you added amnesia to the story. I feel that would be too much but its not my game.

You do not need to have amnesia to get flashbacks.
There are many things that could trigger memories. Some foods, some places make me remember things from when I was little too.

This is really exciting! So great that you came here to get tips and advice.

So for Evan as far as little hints go, if he can't get T or surgery, he'd be binding and such. So wouldn't want anyone to touch his chest or bump into him there- you could have a scene where someone just bumps into him and he gets real pissed or standoffish to overcompensate in case they felt anything. He would have a big personal space issue probably and wouldn't like anyone up in his face, maybe paranoid about not having facial hair.

Oh here's a good one. So in this society there is very strict conformity, say for example he has both ears pierced from when he was younger and female to his parents. This might be really abnormal for a guy to have in this world, so maybe people could comment on it - he might get defensive and say it was an accident? Another hinty thing could be using the loo. Perhaps in comedy form or something, maybe he needs to wee but can't do it in front of anyone so goes off alone and gets ambushed?

Someone could ask if he had a sister, because they recognise him-  he could say she died?

Perhaps he could be seen by a civilian, who wants to bribe him because they knew him as Eve and would rat him out? So something like ''I will tell them who you really are'' - so it's not totally obvious to his companions/ to the player.

Generally areas where you can tell or hint at someone being FTM, (and might be awkward topics of conversation)
- Chest (binder, boobs etc)
- Crotch (going to the loo etc)
- Voice
- Body hair (lack of- facial or elsewhere)
- Periods (maybe girls are talking about it and he gets super uncomfortable and walks away. Maybe someone finds blood or something on his clothes, asks him if he is wounded and he gets uncomfortable/ embarrassed?) 

If you need help with art design or anything, I love that kind of thing. Even just a character concept, backgrounds, weapons, vehicles etc. Also though nowhere near as talented as VannaSiamese I do electronic music- I am a big Nobuo Uematsu fan and I reckon I could make some badass battle music for you.
vaportrails@hotmail.co.uk is my email.

Quote from: DevinJW on July 28, 2011, 06:51:37 PM
This is really exciting! So great that you came here to get tips and advice.

So for Evan as far as little hints go, if he can't get T or surgery, he'd be binding and such. So wouldn't want anyone to touch his chest or bump into him there- you could have a scene where someone just bumps into him and he gets real pissed or standoffish to overcompensate in case they felt anything. He would have a big personal space issue probably and wouldn't like anyone up in his face, maybe paranoid about not having facial hair.

Oh here's a good one. So in this society there is very strict conformity, say for example he has both ears pierced from when he was younger and female to his parents. This might be really abnormal for a guy to have in this world, so maybe people could comment on it - he might get defensive and say it was an accident? Another hinty thing could be using the loo. Perhaps in comedy form or something, maybe he needs to wee but can't do it in front of anyone so goes off alone and gets ambushed?

Someone could ask if he had a sister, because they recognise him-  he could say she died?

Perhaps he could be seen by a civilian, who wants to bribe him because they knew him as Eve and would rat him out? So something like ''I will tell them who you really are'' - so it's not totally obvious to his companions/ to the player.

Generally areas where you can tell or hint at someone being FTM, (and might be awkward topics of conversation)
- Chest (binder, boobs etc)
- Crotch (going to the loo etc)
- Voice
- Body hair (lack of- facial or elsewhere)
- Periods (maybe girls are talking about it and he gets super uncomfortable and walks away. Maybe someone finds blood or something on his clothes, asks him if he is wounded and he gets uncomfortable/ embarrassed?) 

If you need help with art design or anything, I love that kind of thing. Even just a character concept, backgrounds, weapons, vehicles etc. Also though nowhere near as talented as VannaSiamese I do electronic music- I am a big Nobuo Uematsu fan and I reckon I could make some badass battle music for you.
vaportrails@hotmail.co.uk is my email.

Yay!  This is what I wanted!
Okay

- Personal space issues
- Defensive about earrings or even just the scars of where earrings were
- Chest (binders, boobs)
- Crotch (going to the loo etc)
- Voice
- Body hair (lack of- facial or elsewhere)  Would that lead him to pretend to shave daily when he's traveling with others?
- I like the  ''I will tell them who you really are'' threat.  I can definatly see that coming into play
- Finding blood on his pants from a period.  That's ... wow... I don't know how much more awkward you can get.  I mean that's really embrassing for a regular woman, but for Evan... geez.
- And I definatly like the idea of having him help someone else with gender issues.  It could be brushed aside as he explains he just knows these things from working the underground railroad.  That's a really nice hint.

Yes!  This is what I needed!  I'm really excited!  ;D ;D ;D

I was contacted by another member here and they gave me an idea for a flash back scene.

After he changed to Evan, but before he went into exile, he was discovered.  The punks who found out that he was a she tried to 'fix' him through torture and other things.  The final one would be shock treatment.  This is when Evan found his power, absorbed the electricity and fried the whole place in a fit of rage.  The scene ends with the lights slowly flickering out, as Evan kneels on the ground, holding himself and weeping as the final light flickers and dies above him.

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This is definatly an M rated game... and I might have to put a disclamor at the beginning.

Quote from: Halollet on July 29, 2011, 03:33:44 PM
Yay!  This is what I wanted!
Okay

- Personal space issues
- Defensive about earrings or even just the scars of where earrings were
- Chest (binders, boobs)
- Crotch (going to the loo etc)
- Voice
- Body hair (lack of- facial or elsewhere)  Would that lead him to pretend to shave daily when he's traveling with others?
- I like the  ''I will tell them who you really are'' threat.  I can definatly see that coming into play
- Finding blood on his pants from a period.  That's ... wow... I don't know how much more awkward you can get.  I mean that's really embrassing for a regular woman, but for Evan... geez.
- And I definatly like the idea of having him help someone else with gender issues.  It could be brushed aside as he explains he just knows these things from working the underground railroad.  That's a really nice hint.

Yes!  This is what I needed!  I'm really excited!  ;D ;D ;D

I was contacted by another member here and they gave me an idea for a flash back scene.

After he changed to Evan, but before he went into exile, he was discovered.  The punks who found out that he was a she tried to 'fix' him through torture and other things.  The final one would be shock treatment.  This is when Evan found his power, absorbed the electricity and fried the whole place in a fit of rage.  The scene ends with the lights slowly flickering out, as Evan kneels on the ground, holding himself and weeping as the final light flickers and dies above him.

...

This is definatly an M rated game... and I might have to put a disclamor at the beginning.

oh theres alot of hard moment, also remember to add some good times.

I agree with Natkat, there should be a lot of acceptance and good feeling between Evan and the good guys.

I think the idea of him pretending to shave whilst he is with others is good. Or maybe someone notices how he has fine fair on his face but not stubble or what not. There was a thread here about how some start shaving before T because the light hair on face is a give away, guys are either shaved or with beard, they don't have light face down (if you get what I'm talking about, can't think of the right word for it).

What kind of clothes / armour do the characters wear? If it's stiff armour perhaps he is reluctant to take it off even if it's damaged and needs fixing. That could be another hint, to hide body shape etc. Also he might be defensive about his height or if he has small features.

Quote from: Nezhi on July 28, 2011, 04:36:27 PM
You do not need to have amnesia to get flashbacks.
There are many things that could trigger memories. Some foods, some places make me remember things from when I was little too.

Did these flash backs make you slowly realize that they were about you? If not, then it don't fit the post I was responding to.

Quote from: DevinJW on July 29, 2011, 07:50:48 PMAlso he might be defensive about his height or if he has small features.

Perhaps he gets teased about his height, lack of facial hair, small features, voice etc a lot by his friends (who see it as harmless fun, more insinuating that he looks really young, rather than like a girl) and he laughs it off with them. (This will also make it clear to the player that he is slightly different, rather than it possibly just being the art style etc)

Then an enemy/outsider mocks him for it by calling him a girl or gay or something (not knowing he's trans), and he gets visibly angry/defensive. At that point his friends (& the player) would realise it's actually a real sore point for him. Perhaps they stand up for him then, and when they're joking around later make a point to tease him about something else instead, his weapon skills or something. :D

If he is a survivor in an intimidating and dangerous world, he would have learned to control his emotions, at least for the most part. A reaction when teasing was from a knowing and good friend may elicit a reaction. The reaction would be more of a one on one convo, not a temper tantrum.

There's definatly going to be some good times.  Its not all going to be a struggle.

I plan on having times where the characters are taking a break and the player can go and interact with everyone and get to know them better.

I'm not sure what Evan should wear.  I was thinking a black suit and tie because 1. its cool and 2. it'll hide his body shape really easily.  However, the idea of a tribal tatoo on his arm is really cool too.  That's one thing that Evan could do to make his body more masculine.  So now i'm kinda lost about what he shoudl wear.


Speaking about his interactions with the other characters.  There's one character I'm now curious as to how Evan would react to;
Henrich used to be a military captian for the bad guys, but left because of the horrible things he was ordered to do.  After he left, he became an alcholic for a time and put on some weight.  However, is was already a giant of a man to begin with.  When the player meets him for the first time, he's 6'4" tall, almost 400lbs of muscle but still with a fat belly.  He has a giant hand gun in one hand and something that looks like a steel door for a shield in the other.  He's a big burly man with chest hair and beard, but he's still very kind though is overly outgoing.  He'll taunt other guys to try and help them do better, and he treats women like they are precious gems.  He's a modern day knight in shining armour that's chivelrous and laughs at his own jokes.

So what would be Evan's reaction to Henrich?

They would treat each other as guys do, no more and no less.

Quote from: LordKAT on July 30, 2011, 11:58:39 AM
They would treat each other as guys do, no more and no less.

Would evan have any feeling of intimidation around him though?
Or Jealousy because he has what Evan wants?
Or would Even just be filled with joy because Henrich treats him like one of the guys and that's all that he has ever wanted?

What would make sense?  Its really hard for me to put myself in Evan's shoes.

It depends on what kind of person Evan is.
If he is bitter about his situation, he might be a bit resentful, maybe he wouldn't like how differently Henrich treats women to men?
I think a better kind of interaction would be that Evan looks up to Henrich as a father figure, since his parents may have rejected him. He would probably enjoy trying to impress him. I think if Evan were to be jealous of anyone it would be more of someone his own age and from a similar background but maybe had it easier than him- due to being cis-gendered. A brother or something, maybe working for the other side.

For his outfit I think some sort of leather armor would be good. It would form the masculine shape and he could wear it over dark, ordinary clothes and it would be cool. Something similar to this maybe...this (http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101117232055/fallout/images/c/c8/LeatherArmorReinforced.png) or this (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs7/i/2006/002/4/e/Fire_Emblem_Cormag_by_TombStealer.jpg)?

After reading this thread... I'm stalking you on Tumblr...

Is he gonna have blue hair? I think of him as someone who has blue hair.....

Somehow, this is beginning to sound really fake.

It's a video game.

Quote from: ~RoadToTrista~ on July 31, 2011, 05:41:05 PM
It's a video game.

No kiddin! Really!! I hadn't  guessed..


Note the HEAVY   sarcasm.

I'd rather not aggressively respond to that, since that would just make a mod lock the thread.

XD, Make your archenemy is a MTF  >:-) 

I would prefer let us customize our character 

FTM
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MTF
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XD

I was playing this game in my Ipod touch, make a game like this (mmorpg)
-English-
http://www.yslandiaworld.com/ (http://www.yslandiaworld.com/)
-French-
http://www.yslandia.net/ (http://www.yslandia.net/) (more complete)

Quote from: DevinJW on July 30, 2011, 05:19:05 PM
It depends on what kind of person Evan is.
If he is bitter about his situation, he might be a bit resentful, maybe he wouldn't like how differently Henrich treats women to men?
I think a better kind of interaction would be that Evan looks up to Henrich as a father figure, since his parents may have rejected him. He would probably enjoy trying to impress him. I think if Evan were to be jealous of anyone it would be more of someone his own age and from a similar background but maybe had it easier than him- due to being cis-gendered. A brother or something, maybe working for the other side.

Interesting.  How about Evan feels great when he's treated just like any other guy, but then when Henrich finds out he used to be Eve, then he starts treating Evan different.  And then Evan would probably get pissed off at this wouldn't he?

Quote from: Narela on August 01, 2011, 06:43:33 AM
XD, Make your archenemy is a MTF  >:-) 

I would prefer let us customize our character 

FTM
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Yup.  *nods* Yup.  That's perfect.  The body armour will make his body seem very masculine.  And the blue hair is awesome.  And it still makes sense since he's on the top 10 most wanted list he already sticks out in a crowd.  Might as well look good!

Now.  What about a weapon?.  Yes he already has electric powers, but everyone needs a good standby. 

Quote from: Narela on August 01, 2011, 06:43:33 AM

I was playing this game in my Ipod touch, make a game like this (mmorpg)
-English-
http://www.yslandiaworld.com/ (http://www.yslandiaworld.com/)
-French-
http://www.yslandia.net/ (http://www.yslandia.net/) (more complete)

I'll have to check it out!  Thanks!

Oh of course, if Henrich found out he was FTM and started treating him differently that would upset him/ anger him a lot. There would probably be a confrontation about that.

Quote from: Halollet on August 01, 2011, 01:36:04 PM

Now.  What about a weapon?.  Yes he already has electric powers, but everyone needs a good standby. 

Railgun?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun)

He reloads this weapon with his powers
MGS2-13-Fortune Battle-before and after (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9qOGbdjJB8&feature=related#)

I want to play this game now XD , but i don't remenber where is my CD game (LOL)
When i was a gamer i spend the day playing this game, in the most difficult mode XD
(don't try this ,is imposible for you, ''normal humans'') 

Raiden vs Fortune BATTLE (look this XD, and look at her life is small but.. XD)
I think in the game, raiden want to cry XD, after this he have a trauma or something XD
EEX-MGS2: Sons of Liberty [Plant17] - Fortune VS Raiden (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGcnEKFI7PE#)

Quote from: Halollet on July 30, 2011, 11:51:52 AM
Speaking about his interactions with the other characters.  There's one character I'm now curious as to how Evan would react to;
Henrich used to be a military captian for the bad guys, but left because of the horrible things he was ordered to do.  After he left, he became an alcholic for a time and put on some weight.  However, is was already a giant of a man to begin with.  When the player meets him for the first time, he's 6'4" tall, almost 400lbs of muscle but still with a fat belly.  He has a giant hand gun in one hand and something that looks like a steel door for a shield in the other.  He's a big burly man with chest hair and beard, but he's still very kind though is overly outgoing.  He'll taunt other guys to try and help them do better, and he treats women like they are precious gems.  He's a modern day knight in shining armour that's chivelrous and laughs at his own jokes.

So what would be Evan's reaction to Henrich?

It depends on both Evan's and Henrich's personalities.  Evan would probably be at least slightly jealous of every cis guy in the game since living stealth without hormones or surgery is difficult and the other guys don't have to deal with anything like that.  Unless he desperately wants to be a huge guy, I don't think he'd be any more jealous of Henrich than anyone else.  If his dad isn't a big guy, he might be completely OK with being a ninja type character, as his dad would have had to fight like that as well.   If he's bitter about being trans or insecure about his masculinity, then he may let his jealousy go unchecked, try to prove that he's a tough guy, and end up being an ass.  If he's not bitter for the most part  (it'd probably get to him occasionally,) and he might try to stay positive, keep his jealousy in check, and not try to overcompensate for his female body. 

My best friend happens to be fifteen years older than me, and he was special ops in the military, and actually sounds a lot like Henrich, so I can kinda relate.  In some ways he's a father figure to me and in some ways he's a friend- I guess he's sorta like an older brother.  Mostly, I just really respect and admire him, so I try to impress him when I have the opportunity, and I listen closely to his opinions on stuff related to being a guy.  And I love listening to him talk about the military.  Also, since I'm learning judo and he is a black belt, I try to get him to fight me for fun, particularly when we've been drinking.  He doesn't usually agree to it since he's always afraid he'll seriously hurt me by accident.  I think that's one of the few things I do that's partially motivated by jealousy/ insecurity about being trans.  I know getting into real fights is stupid, and it's mostly just that it's fun to fight with him, but also I feel like I missed out as a teenager, and since I am small, it'd be awesome if I could beat him someday (not that I have a chance.)  Also, he loves and respects women a lot, and he's great at talking to them, so he gets girls easily.  That's probably the biggest source of jealousy that I have for him since even if I'm flirting with a guy, I know it's not going further unless I out myself, and then that's usually the end of the flirting. 

And if Henrich started treating Evan differently after he found out that he used to be Eve that would definitely piss him off. 

Another hint that's he's trans that you could drop is that he may avoid talking to strangers when he doesn't have to, or try to get someone else from the group to do the talking if only one person needs to talk.  A lot of ftms can pass for a young boy, but then have their gender questioned as soon as they speak.

And awesome idea! I can't wait to see the game. 

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Yay!  Concept art!

Feedback please!  ;D

He looks, like an astronaut or something like that

Still looking for more artists!  http://zaftiggames.tumblr.com/ (http://zaftiggames.tumblr.com/)

Ok, i gonna try to draw

Quote from: Narela on August 05, 2011, 02:33:49 PM
He looks, like an astronaut or something like that

Still looking for more artists!  http://zaftiggames.tumblr.com/ (http://zaftiggames.tumblr.com/)

Ok, i gonna try to draw

Well... it is set in the future... so I guess that's a good thing?

I look forward to seeing your work!

Are you putting this game on ITunes too? >.>

Quote from: Halollet on August 05, 2011, 01:54:31 PM
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Yay!  Concept art!

Feedback please!  ;D

My Concept art!   XD
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Quote from: ~RoadToTrista~ on August 05, 2011, 04:29:18 PM
Are you putting this game on ITunes too? >.>

Hopefully. 

@Narela

Yeah, adding some warrior grit would definatly work.  Thanks!  ;D

Hey! are you still looking for help? If so ill get on some art work right away man :)
your game sounds awsome!