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I did My Space cuz my daughter asked me to (long ago).  I then followed her to Facebook.  Then I realized how Facebook worked and I deleted my account.  I have a phone, an email address and a physical address.  That's enough for me.

Never have done FB or even LinkedIn.  Had a MySpace account many moons ago but I don't know that it has been updated in the past few years.  I have ONE person who I get Twitter updates from on my phone but that is because I occasionally staked her in some tournaments and she was doing update tweets. 

I stayed with someone the other night, and when they got up, I would swear they spent an hour on Facebook and another hour or more sitting on some online dating site...then they went back to FB.

I use facebook. I have rediscovered many wonderful classmates from high school and undergrad school because of facebook. I also found my distant relatives from Italy and I now have a weekly cam skype session with a cousin of mine in Italy. I have already been to their house and visited Pompeii because I found them on facebook.

I also have used facebook to connect with my family as I live quite far away from them going to school.  I call them and cam but sometimes I drop a line of hello to them on facebook.

I even met my therapist on facebook through networking with other friends and she has proven to be an invaluable asset to me.

I am just careful and i keep my profile and other issues on facebook private and I do not blindly accept others on my facebook unless I know them

And I landed a job (before I decided to pursue a graduate degree) with Liberty Mutual as a Disability Claims manager because of my profile and resources on LinkedIn.

I guess it all depends on how you use the social media. I don't FB to do farmville or anything like that.n I know one girl who has over 20 pages of farmville stuff and I swear I think she sits there 11 hours a day to play the game.

Quote from: Logan Bann on August 29, 2011, 01:13:42 PM
  I really don't have anything to say to anyone, I am leery of uploading any pictures of myself to the Internet, I don't care what you ate for lunch today, I don't have anyone far-off that I want to keep in touch with, and I don't want people in my business.  Altogether, still a big no.

You just summed up a number of my reasons :)

I'm not even fond of pictures of me winding up on the web through traditional media reporting (almost everyone of me on the web came in the past four months courtesy of one particular case- they aren't tagged with my name but I know they are there). 

another thing you should have added to your poll is age.

We did a survey similar to this at our church and found out that the younger generations were all for it while the "older" generations were generally against it.

It was quite a unique discussion:

Younger generation (young adults to 30s) were for social media outlets, cells, modern forms of musical worship, coffee shops in their youth groups. They didn't like hymns or the organ.

Then the generation in their 40s and early 50s were generally against social media outlets but some liked it, didn't mind cell phones and liked both hymns and modern music for worship and was either way with a coffee shop.

The generation in their late 50s to early 70s were unanimously against social media outlets, did not like cell phones but found it a necessary evil (same with PCs), only wanted hymnals and only wanted the organ. Any form of drums or guitars were a no go. The coffee shop was off limits.

So we split our worship services into two times. The earlier service (traditional) catered to the older generations and the mid generations who liked it and the late service (contemporary) which catered to the younger generations and mid generations who liked it. So far, it has been very successful.

I landed a 65,000 (75,000 with bonuses) a year job because of the social media outlet and a free ride to Italy for three weeks. So I really cannot complain over it!

And ironically, my pics were never stolen from a social media site but from two trans websites.

I have facebook and twitter, however,  will never do them as verbs - I just have them as nouns, for when their services are useful.

Hell yes! I think it's great.

I'm over 50 and I use FB.  Like any good tool it's pretty flexible, I use mine for three things.  One, as many of the people I work with are scattered to the wild winds most of the time we can all keep in touch with each other.  Pretty much everyday I'm in contact with people in Asia, South America and Europe, not to mention all over the US and we can keep up with each other, and the biz.  Most of that is 'inside baseball' stuff that only we are interested in.  Two, there are a bunch of my friends, people I used to trade tapes with and such, and were constantly posting videos at each other.  I don't need to make anymore Grateful Dead tapes because the Dead FB sends out a different set every couple of days.  On Sundays we do Jazz Bruch and we all post all this cool jazz stuff for example.  Three, family, its a way to keep in constant touch with my kids.  None of the people on my list post stuff like "I'm going shopping".  A lot of us post news and political stuff and it becomes an outlet for our constant jokes.

I will say this, I only 'friend' people who I know IRL, real friends, not other people who read stuff I post and like it.  I have to know you personally, and really like you.  That keeps the list down for obvious reasons. 

I don't have to send pictures out to everyone, I just post them, works for me.  It's a real quick and easy way to share.  And the pictures of me on the net are things like me holding Phil Lesh's old Alembic bass, nothing embarrassing or bad, or illegal.

Cell phone?  I haven't had a land line in over a decade now.  Wires on a phone?  How quaint, isn't that the way they did it in the 19th Century?  Why yes, they did.

I use it way to much ::)

I use Facebook to manage my social (IRL) groups and to keep in touch with long distance friends and family.
Sometimes it's the only way I CAN keep in touch with people.

I "have" a twitter, but I never actually use it.

I also have a Tumblr, and I use it a LOT.

I use FB to keep track of friends who live far away, which is pretty much all of them these days. I don't have an insane number of people friended though. Most are people I've known for years, and occasionally someone who friended me and them seemed decent enough. I am also careful with what kinds of things I post there and who is allowed to see them.

I was on Facebook, I only joined to play Tetris though.

Quote from: Pica Pica on August 29, 2011, 01:43:34 PM
I have facebook and twitter, however,  will never do them as verbs - I just have them as nouns, for when their services are useful.

"I Twitter," sounds like something you would do at The Gay 90's bar.

Quote from: Miniar on August 29, 2011, 03:36:56 PM
I "have" a twitter, but I never actually use it.

"Don't make a move. I have a Twitter, and I'm not afraid to use it."

Quote from: Annah on August 29, 2011, 01:38:53 PM
The generation in their late 50s to early 70s were unanimously against social media outlets, did not like cell phones but found it a necessary evil (same with PCs), only wanted hymnals and only wanted the organ. Any form of drums or guitars were a no go. The coffee shop was off limits.

I never fit in with my generation. I use FaceBook, LinkedIn, Behance, WordPress, and SecondLife. I used to have a MySpace account, but not since my online family there fell apart. I only have a cell phone, no land line. I live on my laptop computer. I love contemporary church music as well as traditional, but not in the sense of middle-agers, more in line with the Emerging Church movement. And I need my Caribou and Dunn Brothers.

I prefer big ol' rousing hymns and organ over new church music - especially hillsong. It makes me feel queasy to hear God described with such insipid language as 'lovely' and 'nice'.

Quote from: Pica Pica on August 30, 2011, 12:19:50 PM
I prefer big ol' rousing hymns and organ over new church music - especially hillsong. It makes me feel queasy to hear God described with such insipid language as 'lovely' and 'nice'.

My best friend would agree with you. He's 24 and he contracts his services to many churches in our community to play the organ. He LOVES that instrument.

I worked Hillsong United.  Remember when god had people like Bach and Thomas Andrew Dorsey writing music for him?  Now it's mostly this kind of musical wallpaper dreck.  And just as a word to the lord, when you pick people to go out and be your ambassadors, try to pick some who aren't total dicks.  And I've worked with Axl Rose and Mickey Hart, so my basic dick threshold is pretty high, but those HU jerks...

And one of the things that makes me think that god doesn't exist is that when people do stuff like this in his name they are not hit with a lighting bolt as soon as they have the idea.  Gangster rap (complete with sirens) for Jesus? 

Rediculous! Christian side hug with lyrics! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZnmTiqEikg#)

That is superbly awful.
I didn't know 'front hugging' was such an issue, you weird 'Merkins. Here, you have to push christians away because they hug you so much. There is even a part of the Church of England service called 'The Peace' where you are practically required to go around hugging people.

That is superbly awful.

Perfect description.  Apparently they are so morally weak (and completely and utterly undersexed) that they can't hug anyone without popping a chubby and thinking rape thoughts.

And all that other stuff is really social media 1.1, it's just forums and chat in a different format.

Quote from: tekla on August 30, 2011, 12:54:01 PM
And one of the things that makes me think that god doesn't exist is that when people do stuff like this in his name they are not hit with a lighting bolt as soon as they have the idea.

Do you think if we pray hard enough we can get God to fix this?  Imagine the night sky lighting up.

Quote from: Pica Pica on August 30, 2011, 01:15:19 PM
There is even a part of the Church of England service called 'The Peace' where you are practically required to go around hugging people.

We do that at my church as well. Its one of my favorite parts of the liturgy :P

My favorite part was when they passed a basket of money around in case you needed some.  You know, the lord helps those what helps themselves.

I used to pray to God for a bike, then I got wise. I stole the bike and prayed to God to forgive me.

It's always easier to get forgiveness than permission.

Whilst I do use various forums (such as this) I abhor Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, et al. To me they are a sign of the decline and fall of civilisation, I say that partly in jest, but I think that a certain amount of the lack of civility in social discourse is because what we impart via social media is disconnected from true face to face social interaction (as in its easier to type f - off than it is to say it to someone's face). To me noting beats hearing the inflection in someone's voice, hearing them laugh when they are happy beats:  :D , and being able to wipe a tear away rather than stare at  :icon_cry2: .

The other problem I have with social media is that EVERYTHING IS SO UP HERE IN IMPORTANCE! There is no 'OMG you just have to see this ....' that is so important that my world will collapse if I don't see it.

Toni-Lynn

Quote from: I_am_Toni_Lynn on August 30, 2011, 02:42:21 PM
but I think that a certain amount of the lack of civility in social discourse is because what we impart via social media is disconnected from true face to face social interaction (as in its easier to type f - off than it is to say it to someone's face).
Toni-Lynn

Actually, if it wasn't for facebook, I would have never met my side of the family from Italy. We met in person and in real face to face contact and I met an entire side of my family I do not think I would have ever met if it wasn't for connecting with each other through these social networks and then meeting face to face.

So, I think it has to do with the motive of why one would do the social media to determine whether or not it would yield positive and fruitful results.

Quote from: Annah on August 30, 2011, 09:06:34 PM
...if it wasn't for connecting with each other through these social networks and then meeting face to face.

So, I think it has to do with the motive of why one would do the social media to determine whether or not it would yield positive and fruitful results.

Point taken, Annah, and valid. My only continuance would be, that meeting face to face surely surpassed the sterile experience of social networks.

Of all the ones listed, I find Twitter to be the most unappealing (and mis-used) of all. Stereotypically it come off as nothing more than people charting a laundry list of events that are totally unimportant in the grand scheme of things. "I'm going to the store', 'Caught in traffic, dammit', 'My dog had kittens' etc ad nauseum. Its almost a form of information pollution. I am reminded of the character of Rob in Woody Allen's Annie Hall. He spend the whole movie phoning hi answering service to say, 'From 8.05 to to 8.45 I'll be at 555-2626, then from 8.45 until 10.00 I'll be at 555.2781 etc'. A more contemporary character would be Dr Cooper on Nurse Jackie, who does this sort of stuff on Twitter. All in all downright annoying behavior in a person you are trying to have a conversation with

Toni-Lynn

If that's what your friends post, then you need new friends.

Quote from: Julie Marie on August 30, 2011, 01:30:25 PM

Quote from: tekla on August 30, 2011, 12:54:01 PM
And one of the things that makes me think that god doesn't exist is that when people do stuff like this in his name they are not hit with a lighting bolt as soon as they have the idea.  Gangster rap (complete with sirens) for Jesus? 

Do you think if we pray hard enough we can get God to fix this?  Imagine the night sky lighting up.

Let's start an Ex-Bigot Ministry. Pray the homophobia away.

Quote from: I_am_Toni_Lynn on August 30, 2011, 02:42:21 PM
Whilst I do use various forums (such as this) I abhor Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, et al. To me they are a sign of the decline and fall of civilisation, I say that partly in jest, but I think that a certain amount of the lack of civility in social discourse is because what we impart via social media is disconnected from true face to face social interaction (as in its easier to type f - off than it is to say it to someone's face). To me noting beats hearing the inflection in someone's voice, hearing them laugh when they are happy beats:  :D , and being able to wipe a tear away rather than stare at  :icon_cry2: .

I would be tempted to agree with you, but that decline in civility started way before social media was invented.

I Facebook and I LOVE IT! Most of the people I have on there are people that I know in real life but have long since moved away from. For instance my sons and other members of my family that I don't get to see much of anymore. I have also been in Second Life for 5 years now. I have met many people in SL that I wouldn't have ever met in real life. Some say that social networks are a way for people to stop meeting face to face. Well, to many I am sure it is..but a lot of us actually meet people all over the world due to them. I have met over 30 people from cyber space in real life because of social networks. I have done things I wouldn't have ever done before because of it. For instance, seeing a musician by the name of Steve Poltz in Canada when I never heard of him before and having him nearly topple on top of me during the concert. Meeting Miss Foozie at Market Days cause a friend of mine from SL dragged me to Market Days, walking literally in the clouds in Heidal, Norway. I think it's all in how one uses the tool in how well it works for you. A hammer can either only be used to put a nail in the wall to hang a picture or it could be used to build a life time dream house. It is how you use your tools that makes them worth while or not.

Quote from: Lisbeth on August 31, 2011, 09:37:31 PMLet's start an Ex-Bigot Ministry. Pray the homophobia away.

Considering a national upheaval started on Facebook, why not an Ex-Bigot Ministry?

I clicked the Kathy Griffin video link from your signature line.  In is she says something to the fact that being called a bigot is about the worst thing one can say to another.  Maybe the ex-bigot idea has some teeth.  "Repent sinners!  Throw away your bigoted beliefs!" says Ex-Bigot Ministry Founder, Mother Lisbeth.  Maybe Facebook does have some redeeming social value. 

I say...fight fire with fire...if something's used for bad...turn it around and use it more powerfully for good. Most of the people on my friends list are people that did not know what a transgendered person was or were not really knowledgeable in the GLBT world. I post many news articles from my GLBT arena's to my FB for my friends...They see first hand just what it's like in our world. Most have been very appalled and have become more aware and understanding. Some have even become active in the GLBT community.

I have a Facebook page, Twitter, and LinkedIn.  The only one I use is Facebook though.  As I tend toward the verbose, Twitter just sucks (and I don't care about most of what gets written there).  LinkedIn is for job searching, but I'll admit that I don't have a clue how to use it.  And not a single of their professional categories matches me.  Made me rather depressed, to be honest...

Just Facebook and Google+ for me.  Spam is not a problem because I only tend to accept friend requests from people I actually know in person or online.  And if they do end up being spammers, I remove them unless I know them well.  Since a lot of my friends are an hour drive away, FB in particular has been a great tool for keeping in touch and setting up get-togethers.  I use the chat and photo sharing a lot more than the other features.

I use to be very averse to twitter, but I am enjoying following lots of dead people, they seem to have very funny looks at the world.

Quote from: Julie Marie on September 02, 2011, 10:15:18 AM
Considering a national upheaval started on Facebook, why not an Ex-Bigot Ministry?

I clicked the Kathy Griffin video link from your signature line.  In is she says something to the fact that being called a bigot is about the worst thing one can say to another.  Maybe the ex-bigot idea has some teeth.  "Repent sinners!  Throw away your bigoted beliefs!" says Ex-Bigot Ministry Founder, Mother Lisbeth.  Maybe Facebook does have some redeeming social value.

LOL!

Quote from: Pica Pica on September 03, 2011, 07:01:20 PM
I use to be very averse to twitter, but I am enjoying following lots of dead people, they seem to have very funny looks at the world.

Guess you don't need to go to medium to channel them anymore.

certain amount of the lack of civility in social discourse is because what we impart via social media is disconnected from true face to face social interaction (as in its easier to type f - off than it is to say it to someone's face).

Oddly enough (or not) my social media is alot tamer than what we all say to each other face to face.  In part that might be because we're all aware that our parents, or kids are also on it.  Or that we're old enough to know say it, forget it - write it, regret it.