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I'm 20yo and I'm looking for a way to grow natural breasts. The only solution that seems to be documented is hormones, but the problem is I don't want a decrease/loss of erections (decreased libido etc). Is there any working alternative way to achieve this?

I'm sorry if this is a recurring question but I got kinda lost in that sea of information, plus I'm having a hard time figuring out the right keywords...
Anyways, thanks in advance

Surgery is only sure way. Some people don't lose all their sex drive but I know in my case it's WAY lower + down there is pretty ED now which is fine with me. + will make you sterile.

If you're 20 y.o. you might could grow breasts with estradiol (estrogen) only and skip the anti-androgen, which is the main culprit in lowering the male sex drive.  Probably not huge ones, but ask your doctor is the best advice.

HRT for MtFs will cause erectile dysfunction. But I deny that it causes loss of sex drive.

Quote from: Lisbeth on September 06, 2011, 10:46:40 PM
HRT for MtFs will cause erectile dysfunction. But I deny that it causes loss of sex drive.

I guess that's different from person to person and what you call "sex drive"? I still enjoy sex and look forward to it but I don't obsess about it nearly as much as when my body had a bunch of T floating around in it.

Quote from: Stephe on September 06, 2011, 11:34:40 PM
I don't obsess about it nearly as much as when my body had a bunch of T floating around in it.

Hate that T stuff. I would call it "sex over-drive."

Quote from: FairyGirl on September 06, 2011, 04:25:48 PM
If you're 20 y.o. you might could grow breasts with estradiol (estrogen) only and skip the anti-androgen, which is the main culprit in lowering the male sex drive.  Probably not huge ones, but ask your doctor is the best advice.

And is there a way to make them bigger once they've reached their maximum size?
I'd like a B or C cup...

Quote from: unx on September 07, 2011, 06:54:36 AM
And is there a way to make them bigger once they've reached their maximum size?
I'd like a B or C cup...

yeah, it's called 'schedule an appointment with a plastic surgeon who specializes in breast augmentation.'  You know, the same thing that other women do when they are dissatisfied with the size of their natural breasts...

I'll look into this, thanks a LOT to all of you :)

why has nobody reccomended breast massage?  It is highly productive even for a male, and if properly done can achieve results such as a full cup size in thirty days.

When I tried to grow breasts, all I grew was a big fat Buddha belly.

:laugh:

HRT effects are very individual specifc, everey body respons and achieves differnt results. As far as breasts, take a look at your female relatives, specially the sisters; they are a good indicator of how you may respond.

A healthy life style, no drugs, moderate alcohol, no smoking, excersing, yoga, thye all help on the development of breast by lowering cortisol and reducing inflamation.

I lost all erictile cpapcity within a few weeks of starting on Spiro -good riddance ! After one year in Spiro only, my breast where two little cones the size of a big olive  :laugh: I have been in Estrogen for a month, and my little cones are now the size of a golf ball  >:-) >:-) .

Hope this helps, and all the best to you,

Jen61

Quote from: OrderOfOriah on October 29, 2011, 06:33:15 PM
why has nobody reccomended breast massage?  It is highly productive even for a male, and if properly done can achieve results such as a full cup size in thirty days.

I've been using massage for about 5 or so months now and have had a good amount of growth. I'm a large A or small B cup depending on the bra from massage only. 

Yes, I can say from my own experience that some results can be achieved through massage, as well as suction devices and simply wearing a well-fitting bra a lot of the time. I strongly suspect this is how model Andrej Pejic maintains the little bit of cleavage he has, since he and I have similarly slender forms (but that's where the similarity ends!). I managed to keep perky nips and maybe be an AA from a AAA size by simply doing so for a week or two at a time. I've never disciplined myself to stay with it long enough to see just how big things can get this way, but I have found things will all shrink back if you stop for awhile. Somewhere on the web there's a good page on which a non-HRT T-lady explains how she fabricated a gadget using tubing, a hand pump and plastic bowls, but the results after months of use were pretty impressive. She claimed to have gone from zilch up to a C cup. Also, she made nipple enlargers from tennis balls, lining cut holes with silicon caulk.

Constant wearing of a well-fitted and good quality underwire bra with plenty of elastic banding can help arrange things into the right places, too.  If you wet the band so it hold the skin tightly, that helps, too. I don't think this will do much to add inches, but it will give you looser tissue in the breast area and contribute to more feminine look.

Lyric

Quote from: Lyric on November 03, 2011, 05:56:01 PM
Yes, I can say from my own experience that some results can be achieved through massage, as well as suction devices and simply wearing a well-fitting bra a lot of the time. I strongly suspect this is how model Andrej Pejic maintains the little bit of cleavage he has, since he and I have similarly slender forms (but that's where the similarity ends!). I managed to keep perky nips and maybe be an AA from a AAA size by simply doing so for a week or two at a time. I've never disciplined myself to stay with it long enough to see just how big things can get this way, but I have found things will all shrink back if you stop for awhile. Somewhere on the web there's a good page on which a non-HRT T-lady explains how she fabricated a gadget using tubing, a hand pump and plastic bowls, but the results after months of use were pretty impressive. She claimed to have gone from zilch up to a C cup. Also, she made nipple enlargers from tennis balls, lining cut holes with silicon caulk.

Constant wearing of a well-fitted and good quality underwire bra with plenty of elastic banding can help arrange things into the right places, too.  If you wet the band so it hold the skin tightly, that helps, too. I don't think this will do much to add inches, but it will give you looser tissue in the breast area and contribute to more feminine look.

Lyric

If you keep it up, they'll keep growing, at least thats what they're doing for me. It's to the point now where baggy t-shirts don't hide them anymore and I've been looking around for a sportsbra that I can wear to hide them at work until I come out.
This is a pic from about a month and a half ago;

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg502.imageshack.us%2Fimg502%2F7338%2Fmichelle10.th.jpg&hash=72bdd5fbf5c5dfedc74d6a2d43717696ada7ec32) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/502/michelle10.jpg/)

They've filled out a bit since then. I don't know what the rules are about posting or linking to bare photos, so I wont until I know. I've been taking pics every 4 or 5 days to track my progress.

That's not a bad idea, Michelle. I'll aim to stay with the program and try to start documenting progress with photos. For forum posting, some coverage is required I think, though ( but I'm sure a bit of cleavage now and then is OK).

Lyric ~

Quote from: Lyric on November 06, 2011, 10:30:50 AM
That's not a bad idea, Michelle. I'll aim to stay with the program and try to start documenting progress with photos. For forum posting, some coverage is required I think, though ( but I'm sure a bit of cleavage now and then is OK).

Lyric ~

Keep it up, you wont see results overnight and it probably also depends on the individuals personal body chemistry, but it is possible.

Interesting subject ,even better to get some info from users beter as all the adds you see.
Michelle666   great girl let them grow :)

$4000 surgery implants and an awful lot of E

I've read about some herbal methods that seem to have worked some girls and guys I know.  I've tried it and had little to no success personally, but everyone is different.  So I don't doubt the possibility of it working.

My mom has 38 DDD and its 100% natural (she has had DD's since about 16)

while my sister has 36 C's


...I'm kinda scared as to what my hrt results will be lmfao. :laugh:

Wel most stay *smaller* ,so this subject is interesting to find out what works and what not in enlargement without hormones or surgery .

I've had a small growth spurt over the past week, im a bit bigger than the pic i posted earlier in the thread. the massage is working. I also eat a vegetarian diet high in soy products, and recently started eating flax seed. Both are high in phytoestrogens. A welcomed surprise that I noticed is that my hips are starting to fill out a bit. Girl jeans now fit me better than boy jeans.