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Title: Do you check male or female?
Post by: Dominick_81 on September 22, 2011, 12:38:23 AM
Post by: Dominick_81 on September 22, 2011, 12:38:23 AM
On job applications, if your maker isn't changed do you check male, female or just leave it blank? I really hate having to check female on everything. I'd rather not check anything if I have to check female. And can you just leave it blank if you don't want to check female? I know if your marker isn't changed that you probably have to check female, but I was just wondering, what you guys do when you have to check that box: male or female? I was wondering if you guys leave it blank or just not care and check male?
Title: Re: Do you check male or female?
Post by: Lee on September 22, 2011, 12:51:54 AM
Post by: Lee on September 22, 2011, 12:51:54 AM
If there's not a "Prefer not to answer" option I check F. It's definitely not my favorite thing to do, but it seems the simplest option at the moment.
Title: Re: Do you check male or female?
Post by: Arch on September 22, 2011, 01:32:49 AM
Post by: Arch on September 22, 2011, 01:32:49 AM
Sometimes, out of sheer frustration, I would leave it blank on some forms. As far as I can tell, someone always checked the box for me.
But I never actually did it on a job application.
But I never actually did it on a job application.
Title: Re: Do you check male or female?
Post by: Arch on September 22, 2011, 03:04:55 AM
Post by: Arch on September 22, 2011, 03:04:55 AM
Quote from: Kvall on September 22, 2011, 02:03:49 AM
If you're in the US, gender/sex are optional information on job applications. If an employer asks for either on their application rather than on the attached EEO form (which also asks questions about ethnicity; these are also optional), the legality of their asking it would be questionable.
What about other employment paperwork, after they've hired you?
There's another thread around here with the same theme...but the poster has already been hired.
Title: Re: Do you check male or female?
Post by: anibioman on September 22, 2011, 03:43:19 AM
Post by: anibioman on September 22, 2011, 03:43:19 AM
on a job application i intend on leaving it blank. i left both sex boxes unchecked on my regents and everything worked out.
Title: Re: Do you check male or female?
Post by: Cindy on September 22, 2011, 04:00:42 AM
Post by: Cindy on September 22, 2011, 04:00:42 AM
I realise the rules change, but in Australia we cannot discriminate on anything so ticking a gender or sex box is meaningless, although they are still on employment forms. I would check your local rules. Often these forms are left open for some time before being changed and small companies may try a sly manoeuvre.
Interestingly, people can give more information that they need and it can then discriminate against them, because I can then decide to not interview them and they have no recall on that.
Is it good or bad?
I employed a woman to cover a person who is going on maternity leave (back fill position) she has been with me a week and has now told me she is 3 months pregnant, and will want maternity leave while she is back filling a person on maternity leave. Obviously I would not have employed her, yes it would have been positive discrimination, BUT :o Hells Bells, I now have to pay two people maternity leave and employ another person on back fill.
Sorry for the rant and derailing.
Cindy
Interestingly, people can give more information that they need and it can then discriminate against them, because I can then decide to not interview them and they have no recall on that.
Is it good or bad?
I employed a woman to cover a person who is going on maternity leave (back fill position) she has been with me a week and has now told me she is 3 months pregnant, and will want maternity leave while she is back filling a person on maternity leave. Obviously I would not have employed her, yes it would have been positive discrimination, BUT :o Hells Bells, I now have to pay two people maternity leave and employ another person on back fill.
Sorry for the rant and derailing.
Cindy
Title: Re: Do you check male or female?
Post by: N.Chaos on September 22, 2011, 05:51:33 PM
Post by: N.Chaos on September 22, 2011, 05:51:33 PM
Quote from: Lee on September 22, 2011, 12:51:54 AMSame here, unfortunately. Usually puts me into a pretty bad mood but there's nothing I can do about it currently.
If there's not a "Prefer not to answer" option I check F. It's definitely not my favorite thing to do, but it seems the simplest option at the moment.
Title: Re: Do you check male or female?
Post by: Darrin Scott on September 22, 2011, 05:56:44 PM
Post by: Darrin Scott on September 22, 2011, 05:56:44 PM
Quote from: Lee on September 22, 2011, 12:51:54 AM
If there's not a "Prefer not to answer" option I check F. It's definitely not my favorite thing to do, but it seems the simplest option at the moment.
This is true for me as well. Especially when everything is still legally female. It'd be too much confusion otherwise.
Title: Re: Do you check male or female?
Post by: dmx on September 22, 2011, 06:26:31 PM
Post by: dmx on September 22, 2011, 06:26:31 PM
I check M as long as it's NOT a legal form. I made the mistake of putting my preferred name and gender on a legal form once and wasn't allowed to go back to that place. :/ It's identity falsification.
For a job application I would put male (if mandatory) or leave blank (if optional).
For a job application I would put male (if mandatory) or leave blank (if optional).
Title: Re: Do you check male or female?
Post by: Nygeel on September 22, 2011, 07:22:51 PM
Post by: Nygeel on September 22, 2011, 07:22:51 PM
It used to be that during a background check if your gender with SS didn't match the gender submitted it would raise a red flag. This was changed recently, so when applying for a job the gender you check off isn't very important.
I usually don't check any.
I usually don't check any.
Title: Re: Do you check male or female?
Post by: Sarah B on September 22, 2011, 07:49:55 PM
Post by: Sarah B on September 22, 2011, 07:49:55 PM
I remember looking at forms specifically at the gender marker question and I would be thinking, "I want to tick the female box so much", but it was not possible due to the circumstances at the time. When I changed my name legally in February 1989, I then ticked the female box with no hesitation on my part regardless of what current documentation I had at the time, said otherwise.
In cases where forms have asked for my previous name, I never ever wrote it down. Regardless of the legal consequences for not doing so. The only time I have ever did put down my previous name was in three instances. One was for Immigration in relationship to my citizenship of the country where I now reside, two when I applied for my English passport and three when I applied for my amendments on my birth certificate.
One caveat on this, I was able to pass with no problems at the time I changed my name and I virtually had no other document that needed to be changed except health care card and drivers license and these were changed a couple of days later.
Warm regards
Sarah B
In cases where forms have asked for my previous name, I never ever wrote it down. Regardless of the legal consequences for not doing so. The only time I have ever did put down my previous name was in three instances. One was for Immigration in relationship to my citizenship of the country where I now reside, two when I applied for my English passport and three when I applied for my amendments on my birth certificate.
One caveat on this, I was able to pass with no problems at the time I changed my name and I virtually had no other document that needed to be changed except health care card and drivers license and these were changed a couple of days later.
Warm regards
Sarah B