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Title: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Sevan on September 23, 2011, 11:30:35 PM
Let me first say that while I'm a fluffy new-ager in many many of my beliefs...I'm not *quite* sure how I feel about the concept of Indigo people. I think maybe it is just another step in the "we're all unique, special, perfect snowflakes" and...I'm not sure that's quite true either. Neither here nor there.

A friend of mine shared this article with me, and I've been chewing on it all day. Click here (http://www.sunfell.com/adult.htm) to see some traits of Indigo people.

In many ways...it fits me, and my wife Cyndi and I'm sure..many of us here. So thought I'd bring it here and let us all chew on it. Or...ya know...not. Depends on your take. ;)
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Annah on September 23, 2011, 11:32:24 PM
that list just described 14.2 million teenagers lol
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Sevan on September 23, 2011, 11:59:49 PM
Quote from: Beth Andrea on September 23, 2011, 11:47:33 PM
But...on a potentially similar note, I will mention that the Jewish culture often refers to Gentiles (non-Jews) as "Goyim", which is, as I understand it, a less-than-complimentary word that could be translated as "unthinking animals." ("Unthinking animals" could also be used to describe non-Indigo people.)

See what I mean? "Indigo" people are able to read, comprehend, and even savor words--which shows intelligence and the ability to think--while others are not able to.

Thank you for putting words to an itch I couldn't scratch.

I've never dug the idea of putting others down so that you (and a group like you) are special and wonderful and unique. In this case...that'd be the Indigo folks. They are "above", with special knowledge the rest don't get. Why?

I've seen this in many settings, secular and spiritual. (though more often spiritual) and...why? I don't get it. Why the secrets?

For me...I seem to be missing one crucial seeming piece. I don't remember any of my past lives. Even upon attempt to look into the matter...I remember nothing. This doesn't much bother me...because I'm here in *this* life to fully experience it, and learn from it. We forget past lives for a reason. (IMO...) But that does seem to poke a hole in me being indigo myself.
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: ativan on September 24, 2011, 12:02:08 AM
You are better off flipping a coin to guide you through life.

Ativan
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Padma on September 24, 2011, 12:39:28 AM
I think it's a sense-of-security thing, and it's tribal. We're this and we're cool and we know who we are because we have a checklist. You're either in or you're out. Villager or foreigner.

A lot of the Jewish laws that seem random and weird now were at the time just ways of defining the tribe by saying "that lot over there do xyz but we don't".

People tend to clump together for security, and tend to give up/compromise some of their individuality as the entry fee. The Buddhist group I'm part of used to be very triumphal and like this when I joined it 20 years ago ("we're not like that lot over at the NKT, blah drone...") and I think that was one of the things I was attracted to, back when I had little positive sense of self. Fortunately, we've both grown up a bit since then!
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Annah on September 24, 2011, 01:09:37 AM
Quote from: @ivan on September 24, 2011, 12:02:08 AM
It's grade A Bull>-bleeped-<! It's like reading fricken Taro cards, your horoscope, pick a religion, you are better off flipping a coin to guide you through life. Some people I know tried telling me my children were indigo kids. Dope smoking crackheads can figure it out better than a bunch of hocus pocus crap.
That concept is so old and shot full of holes. I'll just say it right out: If you believe this line of >-bleeped-<, you are an idiot.

Ativan

Please practice a little more "tact" when you attack someone else's faith. I read Tarot cards so I guess by your definition I am an idiot and a dope smoking crackhead. I guess I lack the intelligence, wisdom, and logical fortitude as well as the art of following or believing or not believing what you follow.

I guess I better abandon my pursuant for my Ph.D. in World Religions because you got it all figured out! That saves me money, a dissertation paper, highly recommended authorship of articles and a fruitless hocus pocus career in education so thank you for saving me the time!

Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Pica Pica on September 24, 2011, 01:46:55 AM
I've never heard of it. But it sounds like utter bollocks designed to make someone feel superior, I bet the netizens love it.

Yours

Someone who is superior.
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: ZaidaZadkiel on September 24, 2011, 05:38:06 AM
yea so as i remember and this is all just baseless
the guys who started the indigo thing, were somehow untrained in specific education things
and they were like, noticing kids and stuff
then they did the aura photo thing and they found the aura was indigo

then they went and sold lots of books and make a whole lot of money.

Now there is some truth in their lies and some lies in their truth
as far as I can tell SOME truths are that
there is a huge change happening between children from one generation to the next
the structures do need to be tear down
it will be the children (of that time, adults by now, prolly) who will make these changes

spiritually, pretty much like the runners example, some people are more able than others. I have no info as to whether there are "more" people spiritually able than before, and the internet does help to bring outliers together, i.e. us.

also, tarot cards are not good for being tarot cards.
what makes tarot cards is that the person doing the coin-flip actually knows how to embed meaningful and truth into the random number generators. That's the trick there.

Finally every faith is correct for those who have faith it is correct. Belittling someone because they dont agree with the set of fantasies you believe in, is misguided at best.

And just so you may flame me, I honestly truly believe i am an angel.
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: ZaidaZadkiel on September 24, 2011, 05:44:21 AM
OH
another funny thing I have noticed.
a few androgynes seem to be INFP in the myers briggs type indicator system.
As far as my research goes, few INFP tend to be androgynes. Though there is gender variance, specially toward males being more "soft" and "caring" which are typically female though no strong female identification.

And INFPs tend to be more in line with Indigos.

It follows to reason that indigo describes part of the traits of both INFP and Androgynes.

note: I have the intuition that the INFP<->Androgyne holds only for a certain kind of androgynes. I wouldn't tell which one, but as an example I'm more asexual/non-gendered than other options.

http://www.personalitypage.com/INFP.html (http://www.personalitypage.com/INFP.html)
http://personalitycafe.com/infp-forum-idealists/ (http://personalitycafe.com/infp-forum-idealists/) <-- be wary not everybody who claims to be infp actually is.
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: ZaidaZadkiel on September 24, 2011, 05:50:03 AM
also also also, EVERY system for classification of humans based on subjective measures is Bound to be biased and incomplete.
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Shana A on September 24, 2011, 07:19:51 AM
Please refrain from personal attacks!

Quote15. Items under discussion shall be confined to the subject matter at hand, members shall avoid taking the other users posts personally, and/or posting anything that can reasonably be construed as a personal attack.
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Taka on September 24, 2011, 07:48:44 AM
i could never be an indigo, i don't believe in the new age movement. i'd rather stick to the christian tradition i grew up with, we also acknowledge those with special abilities, but without making them out to be worth more than other people

according to the mbti, i'm a intj personality type, which means i'm a highly rational androgyne
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Padma on September 24, 2011, 08:03:26 AM
I confess, I can't help feeling like the Myers-Briggs lark is just like a Cosmo' Personality Quiz dressed in a lab coat (it's so coarse-grained!) but then the only time I was dragged through it I came out right in the middle of [as in 'in between', not as in 'at the centre'] all 4 thingies, so what that tells anyone about anything, I have no idea.

Still, as a tool for getting people to look at themselves more closely, more power to it :). But I tell people I'm an SLCB, if they ask me.

I'm inclined to think that regardless of where people are at right now, we all have limitless potential to grow, develop, become happier. And a lot of that happiness is inextricably intertwined with helping each other to do all those things. So setting up elites leads to unhappiness, in my book - but it's very, very human.
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Pica Pica on September 24, 2011, 09:49:00 AM
I see Briggs-Myers test as being the modern version of Theophrastes 'Characters' (a book where an ancient Greek described different types of people and gave birth to the genre of the 'character sketch'. As such it is useful in the broadest possible way.

I am an INFP every time I do the test, don't know if I fit Zaida's theory or not. However, I do not see a lot of me in the description os these indigo peeps.
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Padma on September 24, 2011, 09:55:35 AM
I'm not an indigo - but that don't make me feel blue (woh woh woh... :))
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Taka on September 24, 2011, 11:37:15 AM
Quote from: Padma on September 24, 2011, 08:03:26 AM
Still, as a tool for getting people to look at themselves more closely, more power to it :). But I tell people I'm an SLCB, if they ask me.
this is the only reason i look at personality tests and horoscopes. the mbti was a lot more accurate than any horoscopes, so i gained new insight in myself by reading the description of my personality type. one of the things i loved that it said about me is that i need time alone in order to recharge, finally i got support for something i've always known about myself, but other people can't understand at all
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: mimpi on September 24, 2011, 03:35:14 PM
Indigo? There is indigo in the pattern on the sarong I happen to be wearing but that's all...

Someone mentioned upthread about coin flipping, I Ching of course goes down that path and probably serves a purpose. Tried it myself in smoke filled rooms many years ago but can't remember it mentioning coming here, can't remember much at all of those days though...

However, I have and do use a similar technique using a true random number generator first on the chapters in the Quran and then on the individual verse. Gives some surprising results from obscure to the ones that are so pertinent they are downright scary. Always try and make it a little more 'halal' by reciting "In the name of God, the..." before hitting the enter key. :angel:

http://www.random.org/integers/ (http://www.random.org/integers/)

http://arthursclassicnovels.com/koran/koran-ahmed-ali10.html (http://arthursclassicnovels.com/koran/koran-ahmed-ali10.html)

Edit: Have just done it and got Surah al-A'raf (Wall Between Heaven and Hell) and the story of Lut/Lot. :o
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: rensie on September 24, 2011, 05:43:01 PM
Quote from: @ivan on September 24, 2011, 12:02:08 AM
It's grade A Bull>-bleeped-<! It's like reading fricken Taro cards, your horoscope, pick a religion, you are better off flipping a coin to guide you through life. Some people I know tried telling me my children were indigo kids. Dope smoking crackheads can figure it out better than a bunch of hocus pocus crap.
That concept is so old and shot full of holes.

Ativan

I agree
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Anatta on September 24, 2011, 06:06:42 PM
Kia Ora,

::) According to the Chakras= Root C=Red - Stomach C= Orange - Solar Plexus C=  Gold/Yellow - Heart C=Green -Throat C=Blue - Third Eye C= 'INDIGO' - Crown C=Violet...

So as far as Indigo goes...It's all in the mind...

::) Now one can take my 'all in the mind' statement in a number of ways...Choose whatever suit you...

Metta Zenda :)     
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: mimpi on September 24, 2011, 07:21:20 PM
Calling it bull>-bleeped-< is a bit harsh. If it works for people just let them go ahead with it, there's a long jump from this sort of stuff to becoming a crazed religious fundamentalist. There's good and bad in all beliefs or more accurately amongst their followers. Live and let live is the only way.
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Annah on September 24, 2011, 09:54:51 PM
Quote from: mimpi on September 24, 2011, 07:21:20 PM
Calling it bull>-bleeped-< is a bit harsh. If it works for people just let them go ahead with it, there's a long jump from this sort of stuff to becoming a crazed religious fundamentalist. There's good and bad in all beliefs or more accurately amongst their followers. Live and let live is the only way.

Exactly

And in my opinion when other people put down others for their faith they are no different than a religious fundamentalist. It is the same concept of harassing someone only in this case it is for a belief versus a lack of belief.

The concept of making one feel small for their beliefs is exactly the same when one makes another feel small for their lack of beliefs.
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Jen61 on September 24, 2011, 10:43:02 PM
In another thread tthere questions as why people live Susan's; IMO this thread shows why soem people lives: "a bais disrrspect for other peoples belifs or opinions" -sad to witness intolerance coming from the oppresed.

Jen61
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Pica Pica on September 25, 2011, 01:21:48 AM
What about the belief that a kind of spiritually/intellectually advanced colour coded being is nonsense, what about that belief?
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Annah on September 25, 2011, 01:52:28 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on September 25, 2011, 01:21:48 AM
What about the belief that a kind of spiritually/intellectually advanced colour coded being is nonsense, what about that belief?

Then that is your right to believe it is nonsense. I do not believe in indigo children either but the line is crossed when someone belittles or makes fun of another because of their beliefs.

Everyone has a right to believe or not believe. However, respect to all sides of the spectrum should be given regardless of what we believe or not.

For example, we have 3 atheists attending my Seminary and getting their degrees in Religion for the sociological aspect of it. I am best friends with 2 of them. We hang out ALL the time.  Obviously, since I am a Pagan, I do not believe in what they believe and they do not believe in what I believe. But we have the utmost respect for one another. We have so many other commonalities that our faith or absence/without thereof in a religion does not get in the way of our friendships. Same outlook applies with my christian friends at Seminary and my Muslim and hindu friends at work.

It's foolish and immature when someone labels the other with personal attacks because they do not believe in what the other does. That really tells me they are insecure about something if they feel the need to belittle another because of faith. This is what I mean by anyone, regardless of their faith or an absence of one can act just like the most fundamentalist of preachers. The attributes and motives are the same but with a different skin. Sad really.
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Jen61 on September 25, 2011, 09:05:47 AM
I am not Christian but I do celebrate Xmas. T Xmas tree was a Germanic festivity in which the god Odin come to earth to live present in a pine tree. Santa, from Saint Nicholas, and the 25the December was a Roman holiday in honor of Zeus.

I belief in the G-d of Abraham as a cosmological G-d. I d not belif in any religion per se, but I am comfortable in any of their ritual and temples or churches.


As far as other beliefs systems, tarot, magic, the Eastern bunny, frosty, etc. I belief in all of them as they keep my hart youthfull and my mind full of hopes.

Personally, i do not have any traits associated with Indigo people. When I was younger I had an "aura seer" paint my aura. It was mostly made of red and orange hues in violent-looking patterns. I was not particulate please with it and less with the interpretation. I was told my aura reflected rage. Several years later it dawn on me that the rage come from my refusal to accept that I am a female. Well, I hope my current aura is more pinkish than red

Jen61
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Taka on September 26, 2011, 08:16:19 AM
i wonder what my own aura looks like. all i know about how i look to others (apart from 'female') is that my eyes can change from warm to icy blue depending on hair color and clothes, and that they turn pitch black when i'm pissed
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Pica Pica on September 26, 2011, 11:14:55 AM
Someone painted an aura portrait of my dad, they gave him calm blues and aquamarines, big spherical bubble shapes - it was like they have never met him. He defines his own life as one on the edge of perpetual rage, he storms and moods and sulks and he can't ever, ever relax..I think aura people may see aura, but it's the aura they are seeing, not the aura the person is excreting.
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Padma on September 26, 2011, 02:05:15 PM
My aura is bright orange - but that's from drinking too much squash at the cinema when i was a kid - apparently it's what's known as a kia aura ;D.

(Note for non-Brits: in the 70's you'd get fluorescent orange drinks at the cinema called Kia-Ora, chock full of E numbers and sugar. No offence, Zenda!)
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Pica Pica on September 26, 2011, 05:49:01 PM
That's odd, my soul is Um Bongo.
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Amazon D on September 26, 2011, 06:12:02 PM
Quote from: Padma on September 26, 2011, 02:05:15 PM
My aura is bright orange - but that's from drinking too much squash at the cinema when i was a kid - apparently it's what's known as a kia aura ;D.

(Note for non-Brits: in the 70's you'd get fluorescent orange drinks at the cinema called Kia-Ora, chock full of E numbers and sugar. No offence, Zenda!)


I just made butternut squash juice with honey and nutmeg. Its good like pumpkin juice .. yummy


as for this thread... ohh hummm .. people like to feel like they belong somewhere, especially if they are made to look good by being a part of that group.

Myself i am mostly an independent person and don't follow the crowds or peers.. so in closing you can join my group if you don't follow me ... do you follow me?           Oh if you follow me i'll have you arrested   ;D
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: angiejuly on October 07, 2011, 01:55:46 AM
 Not one single post. It said are you indigo? The answer is yes or no not , speculation of the relavency of the question. You knew when you where born . You decided to give ino the mainstream hypnotized mindset  of determining what is and is not. The purest form of ignorence is when we decide we do know. The problems we have outside ourselves is us. When that is realized we can take ownership of our problems.  I live on a planet that every civilization behind me thought they where correct about what may lay beyond the horizons of time, spaced and consciousness only to be proved wrong by the next who thought they had all the answers. Now we live in a civilization just like the past ones that this civilization thinks it knows.  Am I irrational to presume that maybe we might have it wrong as well. And with that have have lived my life looking within for answers because looking outside myself I only find our own thoughts back at me. I needed something more. I have decided that beyond all universal intelligence and genius is the very fact that I do not know. The information is so vast it would kill the physical body to take it all in.  Why humans have decided education= intelligence is a flaw in the segragated collective consciousnes s a hypnotized indused state of consciousness to live withing a service to self society that honnors those who control your mind from 5,000 years of conditioning you to seperate from the source and not believe it to be there for you. The loss of connection induces a false karmic bond to children who become lost and without hope from the newly lost connection you call becoming a model citizen. I call it breaking the spirit.

earth humans are a collective of beings from all over the universe that came to experience a physical body. The final graduation of our spirit consciousness to co creator "god" selves as the brothers and sisters that have graduated to co creators before us. All is equal and light. We are all Prime Creator there is no segrigation only cancer of the collective one consciousness. Soon the truth will be shown for all of you to join me in the other dementions where we travel and think as one thougt downloaded into the collective straight from Prime creator.

Pleasde listen to the geometric leanguge of the circles the high council has been sending to awaken you. Your speculation of crop circles cannot be proven.  Your DNA is shaped from sound frequency. You can raise that frequency to travel the dementions. Why stay in such a low deention. The 3rd is so disconected and segrative. I see it has to much oportuinity for others to own your free will and you not even know it.( So they broke my legs they gave me a crutch to walk).

The very sound frequency that shapes your DNA is sent out from the center of the galaxy. This is scientific proof that our same DNA is found all over the Galaxy. making it impossible for us to be the only humanoid lifeform.

No I am not an Indigo but I humbly thank them for being so kind tyo me wile I waited for my turn. I am a Crystal Child full of unconditional love for even the roaches in you r kitchen. I love all things created as if it was my only child, I cannot hold free will of others. the thought of it surges me with anxiety. I read thoughts and intentions. I know what everyone wants for dinner without asking. I can take in you for a few seconds and see your every worse fear but would never show them to you. I help you confront them on a loving level with your higherself, spirit guilds and the love from Prime Creator.

Know each and everyone of you that we are here to help all of you. I came to take in the pain humanity has to offer the earth ( I am earth not human) With that I can raise my frequency through all the pain so I can lead by example. I do nothing you cannot i am at the front of the line leading by example. I travel hawaii finding people who need healing . most people run from me and think I am too loving to be true. I have the love of our creator inside me for you how am I to be mean to anyone.  Humanity was to notice all is one and to harm anything at all is to harm the self.

Those of you who think you might have over too much l;ove and have no idea what to do with yourself my find you arte indigo or Crystal Child. I will not Identify as Crystal Adult . Because I have the heart of a child and will never let it go.  Follow the path of love in the end you will come to fire. Leave your fears behind and pass through the fire. I am on the otherside with open arms.

I truly love all of you . http://www.starchildren.info/crystal.html (http://www.starchildren.info/crystal.html)
http://youtu.be/vv8RCi0Sico (http://youtu.be/vv8RCi0Sico)

Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Pica Pica on October 07, 2011, 04:01:36 PM
Tim Minchin's Storm the Animated Movie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGuXCuDb1U#)

Stock response.
Title: Re: Are you Indigo?
Post by: Annah on October 08, 2011, 01:12:29 AM
that video only proves my point that egotistical fundamentalism can exist in both a religious and non religious belief.

Both parties in that video was asympathetic to each other. It was a video of two fundamentalists battling it over fundamentalist ideals against each other's fundamentalist philosophies. It was "me me me me" on both sides of the fence.

The video is a perfect example of what happens when a Fundamentalist Spiritualist and a Fundamentalist Atheist gets together. They argue more about how each other is stupid, thus, not being the brightest spokesperson for either belief.

The poetry was wonderful.
The message sounded like propaganda.