Community Conversation => Non-binary talk => Topic started by: Metroland on September 29, 2011, 02:44:40 PM Return to Full Version

Title: Gender traits
Post by: Metroland on September 29, 2011, 02:44:40 PM
Since I have been feeling better about my gender identity, non-binary, I have been trying to identify people according to how feminine or masculine they are.  I feel that some exhibit more masculine traits and some more feminine.  But I also realized that some exhibit something that is neither feminine nor masculine.

So I was thinking that could gender consist of traits that are other than feminine or masculine.  Could you identify any of these traits?
Title: Re: Gender traits
Post by: Gabby on September 29, 2011, 03:40:57 PM
Charisma, often becomes blurred with sexual attraction but still is neutral.

Rage, women can display just as high levels of this as men sadly, so it's gender neutral.

Imagination, the greatest and most beneficial, but can also can be used to dream up the darkest atrocities, gender neutral.

Title: Re: Gender traits
Post by: mimpi on September 29, 2011, 05:08:36 PM
Laziness, pretty sure that would remain the same whatever gender I transitioned to.
Title: Re: Gender traits
Post by: espo on September 29, 2011, 05:19:42 PM
Most gender traits are learned/taught so a boy cries as instinctively as a girl and a girl experiences anger as naturally as a boy (cuz both are human traits) its how they express those emotions that differ. People who dont follow a strict fem/masc traits are just well adjusted and secure individuals. We all have it in us to not act the role society jammed or restricted us in to.
Title: Re: Gender traits
Post by: Silver on September 29, 2011, 05:30:57 PM
I think most traits are gender-neutral so it would be much easier to list the ones that are not rather than the ones that are. XD That said, I am too lazy to compile a list myself so this is all you get.
Title: Re: Gender traits
Post by: Metroland on September 30, 2011, 06:42:32 AM
So there is no such thing as gender? Only traits such as anger, charisma or something along these lines?
Title: Re: Gender traits
Post by: Shana A on September 30, 2011, 07:08:59 AM
I don't believe that traits are gendered. Anyone can be empathetic and sensitive or aggressive and non emotive. It is our society that ascribes positive or negative values to these traits in perceived male or female persons.

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Title: Re: Gender traits
Post by: ZaidaZadkiel on September 30, 2011, 07:09:38 AM
depends on what you are measuring and on what are you contrasting things.
weight / height could be a gender factor.
another factor could be like, hair style or lenght or so.
Or manner of speaking.
etc
Title: Re: Gender traits
Post by: Sevan on September 30, 2011, 11:08:44 PM
There definitly is such thing as gender other wise no one would need transition. Gender is something that is deeply sensed (or in the case of our null gender buddies...not sensed..)

As for what traits belong to what gender...that I've not been able to pin down exactly.
Title: Re: Gender traits
Post by: ativan on October 01, 2011, 12:06:01 AM
Quote from: Sevan on September 30, 2011, 11:08:44 PM
As for what traits belong to what gender...that I've not been able to pin down exactly.
Me neither...null and void I guess

Ativan
Title: Re: Gender traits
Post by: Gabby on October 02, 2011, 07:06:55 AM
People ascribe a gender to any given trait, it is common for people to suppress or develop depending on the gender they assume they or others are, when it is the traits they feel in themselves which are all that matters.  But female and male are empty concepts in themselves.

It's a scary thing to be in control of one's life, male and female are short hand and lazy concepts, the traits are all that matters and they are genderless.