Community Conversation => Transitioning => Hormone replacement therapy => Topic started by: MsSaneJane on September 29, 2011, 05:59:46 PM Return to Full Version

Title: MTF Cyle Symptoms?
Post by: MsSaneJane on September 29, 2011, 05:59:46 PM
This is a question for all you MTF girls. Whats kinda of things or symptoms do you experience at the ends of the month while on HRT? I'm just trying to get an idea of what others may experience.
Title: Re: MTF Cyle Symptoms?
Post by: Rebekah with a K-A-H on September 29, 2011, 06:07:23 PM
Nothing, because I take my pills regularly.
Title: Re: MTF Cyle Symptoms?
Post by: Bird on September 29, 2011, 06:11:00 PM
You only have symptons related to a cycle if your HRT is cyclic.

Myself, I have breast tenderness and mood swings at the end of each hormonal cycle.
Title: Re: MTF Cyle Symptoms?
Post by: kelly_aus on September 29, 2011, 06:12:21 PM
Quote from: Wonderdyke on September 29, 2011, 06:07:23 PM
Nothing, because I take my pills regularly.

Same here.. Same dose everyday - and FYI, it's the way most is prescribed..
Title: Re: MTF Cycle Symptoms?
Post by: Rebekah with a K-A-H on September 29, 2011, 06:21:03 PM
Quote from: kelly_aus on September 29, 2011, 06:12:21 PM
Same here.. Same dose everyday - and FYI, it's the way most is prescribed..

Yeah.  I'm not sure which doctors think that someone having cyclic doses (of progesterone, usually) is actually a good thing.  Not having a monthly cycle is one of the few advantages I've got.  I'm going to milk it for all it's worth.
Title: Re: MTF Cyle Symptoms?
Post by: Bird on September 29, 2011, 06:26:49 PM
This one does :)

Though I am not graduated yet, I'm only a year and a half away.
Title: Re: MTF Cyle Symptoms?
Post by: Rebekah with a K-A-H on September 29, 2011, 06:28:29 PM
Quote from: Bird on September 29, 2011, 06:26:49 PM
This one does :)

Though I am not graduated yet, I'm only a year and a half away.

Mind revealing the science behind it?  I'm intrigued.
Title: Re: MTF Cyle Symptoms?
Post by: MsSaneJane on September 29, 2011, 06:45:57 PM
Me personally I choose to cycle. I do 28 days on and 2 or 3 off. I do this just because it's similar to what the normal woman's body does.
Title: Re: MTF Cyle Symptoms?
Post by: Bird on September 29, 2011, 06:54:05 PM
Sure

I will send you a pm later on.
Title: Re: MTF Cyle Symptoms?
Post by: kelly_aus on September 29, 2011, 06:56:41 PM
My gynaecologist, who is a post-op woman herself, told me that there was absolutely no benefit to cycling. She also told me that unless I'm planning on breast feeding, there's no real need for progesterone either.. Something my own research and previous study leads me to agree with..
Title: Re: MTF Cyle Symptoms?
Post by: Jacelyn on October 02, 2011, 07:02:19 AM
There is benefit of cycling due to fully emptying of the receptors, making them more sensitive to the estrogen. However, this is accomplished by the pill on a daily (24 hrs) basis, it is important to take the pill on the same hour each day for the effect of cycling to occur. In the case of injection, there is no daily cycling, so cylcing has to be on a monthly basis. However, the effect of cycling of the pill more resembled that in the cis women than the injection on a monthly basis.

The same principle apply to progesterone, but there is no need to follow the cycling pattern of cis women. One can cycle it every 48 hrs versus 24 hrs for estrogen. This has the benefit of acting as an anti-androgen (suppressing LH), whereas by following the pattern of cis women, one may have a period where T is higher, this is not good.
Title: Re: MTF Cyle Symptoms?
Post by: Emily Ray on October 02, 2011, 12:55:28 PM
From my understanding of the research I have done, cycling can have some benefits. Joceyn went over them. If one looks up the symptoms of estrogen dominance and has any of them then progesterone could help. To say that it has no role in transition is an over generalization. Progesterone has many functions in the body. One of them is to increase the cell sensitivity to estrogen. It also increases inflamation and inflamation brings blood and oxygen. It is impossible to do a proper double blind study on its importance to transition. We all only can do this once and if it can help I am willing to try as long as it doesn't have terribly debilitating side effects.

Huggs

Em
Title: Re: MTF Cyle Symptoms?
Post by: Bird on October 02, 2011, 01:04:31 PM
It is possible to do studies on this, it just has not come to a point where the scientific community pushes for it or a large lab does it to sell their stuff.
Title: Re: MTF Cyle Symptoms?
Post by: Emily Ray on October 02, 2011, 01:15:22 PM
How can we measure someones growth and attribute it to progesterone. If someone takes it we don't know what would have been the result if they didn't take it. We can't make a control group equal to the test group because we all have different genetic tendencies. The uncontrolled variables are just to influential to be able to make a definite answer one way or another.

I want to take it because I want as much of a chance at reaching my full potential as possible.

Huggs

Emily