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I feel as of the past 3 weeks. There's a definite younger presence on Susans. Most of all are below 35 and we're becoming the majority of the board.

Discuss or rebuttal.

It seems that way to me, although we should all be giving a bit of respect to those who are older. They've been alive longer and have the most wisdom after all. Generally, anyway.

And isn't that a good thing in the long run? In my eyes that appears to be a sign that younger people are coming to terms with themselves more easily when it comes to gender.

Then again, I'm a youngin', so what do I know?

Quote from: Fighter Sadie on October 14, 2011, 08:06:50 PM
It seems that way to me, although we should all be giving a bit of respect to those who are older. They've been alive longer and have the most wisdom after all. Generally, anyway.

Respect is an earned right and is not given.

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 14, 2011, 08:10:28 PM
Respect is an earned right and is not given.

Perhaps I'll rephrase my statement to "Everyone should be given a bit of respect unless they prove they are not worth it." Yes, I believe that's more what I was trying to get at :).

Best rephrased: I have taken over this board.

Don't worry, I'm a kind tyrant.

*bows to Wonderdyke*

I have seen more younger than older people here though ...

i think it has to do with a couple of things:

The world is becoming more accepting of trans and alternate gender identities. It's not the best right now, but compared to the 70s, 80s, and 90s today has gotten better.

Also, the internet has been a great catalyst for all people to learn more about transitioning and to be involved in more internet related trans topics. It seems that younger people uses the internet, on average, more than someone...say...in their middle ages.

So I think that has something to do with a larger younger group.

Quote from: Wonderdyke on October 14, 2011, 08:22:13 PM
Best rephrased: I have taken over this board.

Don't worry, I'm a kind tyrant.

I have taken over too... But we don't talk about it.

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 14, 2011, 07:53:43 PM
I feel as of the past 3 weeks. There's a definite younger presence on Susans. Most of all are below 35 and we're becoming the majority of the board.

Discuss or rebuttal.

the older ones are out partying! younger ones got nothing to do but sit in front of the 'puter! lol

Quote from: Annah on October 14, 2011, 08:41:55 PM
i think it has to do with a couple of things:

The world is becoming more accepting of trans and alternate gender identities. It's not the best right now, but compared to the 70s, 80s, and 90s today has gotten better.

Also, the internet has been a great catalyst for all people to learn more about transitioning and to be involved in more internet related trans topics. It seems that younger people uses the internet, on average, more than someone...say...in their middle ages.

So I think that has something to do with a larger younger group.

I don't see that :/

All I see are more teenagers supporting gay pride, thanks to people like Lady Gaga and the "It Gets Better" project.
No one knows what the ->-bleeped-<- transgender people are, but they "support" it.

Quote from: JoeyD on October 14, 2011, 08:46:03 PM
I don't see that :/

All I see are more teenagers supporting gay pride, thanks to people like Lady Gaga and the "It Gets Better" project.
No one knows what the ->-bleeped-<- transgender people are, but they "support" it.

Sure, nobody knows about it, but people aren't instinctively repulsed by it.

I found nothing but acceptance after coming out in high school, with one exception: the 60-year old principal.

Things are getting better, and it's myopic not to realize and appreciate it.

Quote from: JoeyD on October 14, 2011, 08:46:03 PM
I don't see that :/

All I see are more teenagers supporting gay pride, thanks to people like Lady Gaga and the "It Gets Better" project.
No one knows what the ->-bleeped-<- transgender people are, but they "support" it.

I think that's regional. Where I'm at, the younger crowds who embrace gay and lesbian pride also cheers on trans people. But I totally see where you are coming from. I know some places where your scenario is sad but true

Why bother taking over a board when there's a whole world and even a universe out there?

Quote from: V M on October 14, 2011, 08:57:57 PM
Why bother taking over a board when there's a whole world and even a universe out there?

nice answer :)

Quote from: badkitty on October 14, 2011, 08:45:49 PM
the older ones are out partying! younger ones got nothing to do but sit in front of the 'puter! lol

Hey, I have a good reason for being here. I don't want drama with my boyfriend so I go on message board forums. Still beats ending up in a strangers bed with the taste of tequila.

I'm not sexy enough for the universe...yet.

Quote from: V M on October 14, 2011, 08:57:57 PM
Why bother taking over a board when there's a whole world and even a universe out there?

That requires like COBRA and the Decepticons and even then the leadership is ?

The universe isn't sexy enough for me...and it won't ever be.

Though my last hookup was pretty nice. ;)

I'm 37 and my FTM hubby is 53 so....

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 14, 2011, 09:01:25 PM
That requires like COBRA and the Decepticons and even then the leadership is ?

Well, the current Empress of the Universe is Stinky the Iguana

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fanimals.nationalgeographic.com%2Fstaticfiles%2FNGS%2FShared%2FStaticFiles%2Fanimals%2Fimages%2F1024%2Fgreen-iguana.jpg&hash=b9f67bd0953a78c6cff8a1dca55d037a549d1878)(Stinky's look alike to hide her identity)

And I'm not sure that she is ready to give up her seat just yet

Quote from: Wonderdyke on October 14, 2011, 09:25:47 PM
The universe isn't sexy enough for me...and it won't ever be.

Though my last hookup was pretty nice. ;)

I had a hook up this morning... which explains why I am so happy now.

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 14, 2011, 09:55:44 PM
I had a hook up this morning... which explains why I am so happy now.

oh god, don't tell your bf LOL

Joys of being single: you can hook up anytime you want and nobody cares

Quote from: V M on October 14, 2011, 08:57:57 PM
Why bother taking over a board when there's a whole world and even a universe out there?

they'd have to take it from me and I'm not willing to concede power! lol   ;)

Quote from: Wonderdyke on October 14, 2011, 10:08:25 PM
Joys of being single: you can hook up anytime you want and nobody cares

Well I hooked up with my almost single boyfriend.

Married is a form of single right? Right???

Quote from: Annah on October 14, 2011, 09:56:26 PM
oh god, don't tell your bf LOL

Ummm he knows. I won't tell him if I hook up with that cute andro lez I've never met.

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 14, 2011, 10:11:05 PM
Well I hooked up with my almost single boyfriend.

Married is a form of single right? Right???

ha! :P

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 14, 2011, 10:11:43 PM
Ummm he knows. I won't tell him if I hook up with that cute andro lez I've never met.

You mean me?  Prrr. ;)

Quote from: Wonderdyke on October 14, 2011, 10:26:05 PM
You mean me?  Prrr. ;)

I don't know...the girls on this site make me go, "Jimminy Jillikers"  ;D
http://->-bleeped-<-yeahlesbianhaircuts.tumblr.com/page/2 (//http:///page/2)

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 14, 2011, 10:37:14 PM
I don't know...the girls on this site make me go, "Jimminy Jillikers"  ;D
http://->-bleeped-<-yeahlesbianhaircuts.tumblr.com/page/2 (//http:///page/2)

Don't tempt me.  Maybe I'll just go out and get one of those cuts and knock your socks off.

ok, now im getting jealous LOL

Quote from: Wonderdyke on October 14, 2011, 10:54:15 PM
Don't tempt me.  Maybe I'll just go out and get one of those cuts and knock your socks off.

:)
Maybe I will go get one of those haircuts too...How do you like that?

Then I'd miss my long hair and be sad :(

Why must actions have consequences?

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 14, 2011, 11:03:36 PM
:)
Maybe I will go get one of those haircuts too...How do you like that?

Then I'd miss my long hair and be sad :(

Why must actions have consequences?

I dunno, bro.  I thought I would miss my hair tons, but I've never looked back since cutting it short.  You might enjoy it, too! :D

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 14, 2011, 11:03:36 PM
:)
Maybe I will go get one of those haircuts too...How do you like that?

Then I'd miss my long hair and be sad :(

Why must actions have consequences?

you should dye the top part green :P

Quote from: Wonderdyke on October 14, 2011, 11:04:40 PM
I dunno, bro.  I thought I would miss my hair tons, but I've never looked back since cutting it short.  You might enjoy it, too! :D

You doth call me bro? Why?

No, my next hairstyle is back to the Bettie Page bangs with blonde streaks. F what the b/f says...

Quote from: Annah on October 14, 2011, 11:09:17 PM
you should dye the top part green :P

Knowing someone who did this YES

Quote from: Wonderdyke on October 14, 2011, 11:11:31 PM
Knowing someone who did this YES

What does the green signify?

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 14, 2011, 11:13:57 PM
What does the green signify?

it represents power and fertility!!! Do it!!!!!! :P

Quote from: Annah on October 14, 2011, 11:15:26 PM
it represents power and fertility!!! Do it!!!!!! :P

Beige and red represent fertility along with blue and white. I'm Catholic, I worship the goddess of fertility named Madonna.

Thank you for calling people under thirty five young.  ;D

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 14, 2011, 11:17:13 PM
Beige and red represent fertility along with blue and white. I'm Catholic, I worship the goddess of fertility named Madonna.

you can worship the Incredible Hulk!! He's green.

Quote from: Laura91 on October 14, 2011, 11:19:00 PM
I worship the god of noise named Masonna.

The Japanese noise/experimental/industrial group?

They are still around?

Quote from: Annah on October 14, 2011, 11:18:16 PM
you can worship the Incredible Hulk!! He's green.

I prefer Keeiko the frog...

*gasping for air*  Can't...stop...laughing...  ;D
You guys are too much!~  ;D

   My dog just ran off with my Gogert! Lol umm where was i again? Oh yeah....POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!   :icon_joy:

Wait...35 is young?
Does this mean I'm an infant?

::)

Lol no way in hell are you 30, Adele.
You look around my age.

Quote from: JoeyD on October 15, 2011, 02:09:56 AM
Wait...35 is young?
Does this mean I'm an infant?

::)

I am old enough to be your Mother........ But I've never been good with math.

Hang in there hon, the dust is lifting...
the 65 year old young people are back from GCS :-)

Axelle's 'No spin zone...'

Well to answer the question, I don't know whether that's a Yes or a No;

As I'm old enough to know better; but young enough not to care.
Have fun

Lotsa luv
Catherine

Quote from: Lynn on October 14, 2011, 08:27:23 PM
*bows to Wonderdyke*

I have seen more younger than older people here though ...

lol We're still here, just reading more! Cause we've already discussed, heard it all before?

A high school "transgirl" rides the same bus that my middle school daughter shares so Michelle declares "he dresses like a girl, pink tank top and all", and because "he" also likes boys THAT makes him "gay" not "trans"?

Well, I'm looking at her, thinking if that's the case, what "he" in fact says, then what do you really think of me? Such confusion, at such a young age, we've all been there before and it's not for us "older folks" to give the answers, ya need to figure it out for yerselves and It Does Become Amusing At Times,

Finally told her, in our typical confidential girl conspiracy fashion, "Well? Any thing wrong with that? Did it ever occur to you that "he" likes boys for the same reason you do, so how would that make HER gay (and, more to the parental point, how would either, BOTH OF YOU really know anything about such things in the first place)?

The way this thread went way off track I'd say the 15 Second attention span generation is winning   ;D

I think the seeming shift in demographics has a lot to do with today's lifestyles. For us dinosaurs, I'd guess most of our lives were well set on a path of no return by the time we got out of h/s or university. You could not wait until the day came when you can leave the nest and not ever again have to deal with that "As long as you are living under this roof..." dreaded line from your parents. Knowing how much they "encouraged" you to be out on your own they had to be glad also. You got a job, married, divorced, married again, 2.3 kids etc..  Today, I am pretty much shocked by how a large number 30 somethings can have no idea what they want of their life. A lot has changed in 30-40 years. 

Many of us old folks simply feel trapped by our choices. We stuff, suppress, and beat the monster down often with a fair amount of success for decades. Long before Al Gore invented the internet TG sites existed, developed followings, and we all slowly learned that we weren't the only one (besides Christine Jorgensen)  in the world who felt this way. (BTW - I've been lurking at Susan's for almost as long as there has been a Susan's. Just too afraid of the consequences of reconsidering for a third time what I should be doing with my life)

Today, there are other viable options,  besides suicide, that are realizable. Best to consider before fixing a course for your life, while the freedom is there to choose. Life does get in the way of life.

In a sense, I think it is a healthy sign for society in general that there are youngins here.

Quote from: badkitty on October 14, 2011, 08:45:49 PM
the older ones are out partying! younger ones got nothing to do but sit in front of the 'puter! lol

I'm actually pretty guilty of this one. Although a certain talk with a certain someone the other day has encouraged me to actually do something with my life :P.

Having changed the job market so radically the older generation has freed young people to take over the world, because they sure aren't taking over the work place.

ah the ol cycle of "you young whipper snappers wont make anything of your life" reflection

Oh I think they are being actively prevented from doing much.  Lower educational standards in combination with almost crippling levels of debt from loans and the technological advances that have eliminated a lot of entry level jobs is almost a perfect storm.

Quote from: tekla on October 15, 2011, 10:14:49 AM
Oh I think they are being actively prevented from doing much.  Lower educational standards in combination with almost crippling levels of debt from loans and the technological advances that have eliminated a lot of entry level jobs is almost a perfect storm.

Yup. 

In addition, there's the glut of college students majoring in liberal arts fields where there's not enough work for the number of people graduating.  Conversely, there are not enough students going into needed fields like engineering and the sciences (my company has a shortage of like 40-50 software engineers that it can't fill, for example).  Then there's the delayed retirements among the older generation causing a huge glut of workers.

There's also the disgustingly rich, who, in widening the gap so extremely between rich and poor are destroying the middle class.  The middle class spending money is what created most of the jobs that are now gone or going.  Without that money, chains of stores and restaurants are going out of business, destroying more and more jobs, and further destroying the middle class.  It's going to be a very ugly chain reaction and it's going to happen very fast.

Certainly isn't going to be an easy solution to this problem.  :\

it's going to happen happening very fast.

FIFY

Quote from: Kiera on October 15, 2011, 05:31:54 AM
lol We're still here, just reading more! Cause we've already discussed, heard it all before?

A high school "transgirl" rides the same bus that my middle school daughter shares so Michelle declares "he dresses like a girl, pink tank top and all", and because "he" also likes boys THAT makes him "gay" not "trans"?

Well, I'm looking at her, thinking if that's the case, what "he" in fact says, then what do you really think of me? Such confusion, at such a young age, we've all been there before and it's not for us "older folks" to give the answers, ya need to figure it out for yerselves and It Does Become Amusing At Times,

Finally told her, in our typical confidential girl conspiracy fashion, "Well? Any thing wrong with that? Did it ever occur to you that "he" likes boys for the same reason you do, so how would that make HER gay (and, more to the parental point, how would either, BOTH OF YOU really know anything about such things in the first place)?

What someone peers say often determine their world view at their age. I know I've had no issues with jr/high school girls. I've talked to them about fashion and stuff... But I remember when I saw trans people at that age I was confused at times, but I was also fascinated. Basically middle/high school and to an extent, college girls are coming into the world. I think younger kids are more used to trans people more so than my generation. I know we didn't have any at either of my high school... Besides myself and I had like 3 people say nasty stuff to me all year when I was experimenting back in high school.

I'm under 35 and I too worship Massonna. Totally running things up in here.

On the real, having lurked for much longer than I've been registered, it doesnt seem like there's an age imbalance. I guess maybe I've noticed more young transguys than transgirls, but I think maybe that's because there's more info now than ever before and the initial stages are seen to be easier for FTMs.
I dont think there's an age problem really at all.

Quote from: JoeyD on October 15, 2011, 02:09:56 AM
Wait...35 is young?
Does this mean I'm an infant?

::)

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 15, 2011, 02:54:12 AM
I am old enough to be your Mother........ But I've never been good with math.

   You both are like my sisters! I HATE being the middle sister though, i feel like Jan Brady.  ::)


  Back to topic - I think it's great that us younger ts are speaking out more on internet forums and in RL. It only goes up from here!  ;D 

Quote from: AmySmiles on October 15, 2011, 11:55:28 AM
Certainly isn't going to be an easy solution to this problem.  :\

The ancient Athenians would never agree to taking a wage from someone else on anything like a permanent basis, seeing it as what it is a form of slavery.

Quote from: Forever21Chic on October 15, 2011, 03:03:23 PM

   You both are like my sisters! I HATE being the middle sister though, i feel like Jan Brady.  ::)


  Back to topic - I think it's great that us younger ts are speaking out more on internet forums and in RL. It only goes up from here!  ;D

Awwww. I consider JoeyD and you my sisters too!

I don't think any of us are taking a wage, we are just choosing not to retire, not to cut back - we really do love what we do (to the point that we all refer to it as a 'sickness').  That, combined with my generation being a lot healthier to a much later point in life means those jobs/positions are not opening up as fast as they used to. 

Or are you suggesting that we go back to the old days, when we had two and a half/ three people in the front office?  Computers, smart phones, iPads and all that kind of technology now makes it possible for one person to do that job.  But, and here's the rub, those other one to two positions were training for the big one, and now that's not possible.  When we pick a new house manager we're not going to have anyone who had trained for that here, we're going to have to go out and find someone who has already been (with success) a house manager somewhere else.

It was very slow in the beginning for all that technology to replace people - in fact in the beginning it took additional people just to manage and operate it.  But, almost overnight, everything clicked into place, there was no need for computer people anymore as just about everyone had those basic skills, and the technology became much more user friendly, and poof - no more entry level jobs.

My name has been spoken.
I am here, siblings.

We're a pretty sexy family, who are the lucky parents?

Quote from: daria on October 15, 2011, 02:41:23 PM
I'm under 35 and I too worship Massonna. Totally running things up in here.

On the real, having lurked for much longer than I've been registered, it doesnt seem like there's an age imbalance. I guess maybe I've noticed more young transguys than transgirls, but I think maybe that's because there's more info now than ever before and the initial stages are seen to be easier for FTMs.
I dont think there's an age problem really at all.

I've experienced the same thing.  I'm the only transfeminine person at our school, whereas there are four transmasculine folks (two FtM and two androgyne).  I get the feeling that more AMAB people are transitioning in their late twenties, as opposed to those who are AFAB, for whom I've seen a glut transitioning during their late teens and early twenties.

Quote from: MeghanAndrews on October 16, 2011, 02:49:22 AM
Never trust anyone over 30!

Never trust anyone who says anything like that

One of the major problems I face is succession planning.

We (royal we) have not had the opportunity to train you youngies to the level that you need to step in to take over our jobs. It is a major problem. I have 30+ experience in my job, the nearest  successor has five.  It is a problem right throughout professional careers. It isn't about competency, it is about experience.

When s**t happens I do not need people reaching for the manual of what to do when s**t happens. I need them to know what to do. it is called experience. Sadly 'we' have failed that; but even worse, we have not educated people to a level that they can realise that.

Am I just an old cow lamenting in her field? I don't think so.

I think I see pretty clearly, and I see it in may sectors; except possibly in the armed forces. Always seems to be another General, not always another oncologist.

Cindy

Cindy,
You are not; "Am I just an old cow lamenting in her field?"
My belief is, it is far broader and more extensive than industry believes. It's not only applicable to your medical fraternity, it is widespread in the electronics industry; and from experience of the "down sizing, out sourcing" phenomena witnessed in the late 90's, it has left an indelible mark throughout all of capitalism.

I speak with electronic related industries daily, on the lack of knowledge and understand of industry principles. I waste 10's hours weekly, attempting to understand signal component errors emanating from broadcast sites that are being monitored by people who, when looking at monitoring equipment, should be able to give a one word, or at most, two word description of a signals deficiency.

In the life of a television picture, from point of origin to final reception, there is over 175,000 places a signal can fail. At least now, I'm getting better at defining specific areas of signal failure when diagnosed by inexperienced personal as; "your signal looks like 'chicken wire'" Highly descriptive, amazingly imaginative but oh so profoundly useless and inept.

Hope you have some answers.
Happy training
Catherine

Quote from: tekla on October 15, 2011, 03:35:56 PM
But, and here's the rub, those other one to two positions were training for the big one, and now that's not possible.  When we pick a new house manager we're not going to have anyone who had trained for that here, we're going to have to go out and find someone who has already been (with success) a house manager somewhere else.

Bingo.

Take my field for example - IT. Back about 25 years ago when I began my career businesses weren't hung up on having someone come thru the door with a handful of certs and years of experience in technologies "x", "y", and "z" like they are today. They looked for people that knew some of it and had an aptitude for learning the rest, and they provided training to fill in the gaps. It was a pretty good deal - businesses got a steady supply of cheap people, and the people got hands on experience and training.

Today businesses do not want to invest in training people - they want someone that already has the knowledge and experience; and they expect to pay 3rd world wages for it. Tech changes fast; you can spend years learning something and by the time you get out of school what you've learned may be obsolete. You've spent years of your life and all you have to show for it is a piece of paper and crushing school loans - you don't have any experience, and thus you can't get a job. Meanwhile employers scream that they "can't find qualified candidates" while they shift work overseas to take advantage of coolie labor rates.

Now, back to the topic at hand. I'm one of the older people you speak of (48) and like someone said i've already covered most of the ground that you youngsters are now plowing for the first time. Each generation gets its turn and it's now your turn at the helm; us old fogies are off to party and to spend your inheritance :)

Quote from: MeghanAndrews on October 16, 2011, 02:49:22 AM
Never trust anyone over 30!

ha! right?? :P

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Queen of the thread.

you should have worn a pumpkin head. Then your pic would have won the forums!

probably, because it seems like the older people just don't wanna be here anymore after srs, because they want to join some white glove society, i don't know. there's lots you can do here that isn't gender or transsexual related, but people are just people i guess. it could also be because younger people are on the internet more. who knows?

<waking from nap in rocking chair> What's that.....whippersnappers?! In the asparagus patch?! <grabbing cane and prattling off> Get the heck outta my asparagus you young kids!

Quote from: FullMoon19 on October 16, 2011, 01:23:12 PM
probably, because it seems like the older people just don't wanna be here anymore after srs, because they want to join some white glove society

That was kinda mean. Many leave not to join a "white glove society" but because they felt that they had learned what they needed to know.

Quote from: EmmaM on October 16, 2011, 12:34:11 PM
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Queen of the thread.

If you call yourself a queen, then you gotta WERQ!!!!!

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 16, 2011, 02:05:13 PM
If you call yourself a queen, then you gotta WERQ!!!!!

Why does a queen carry a scepter? Because everyone in the castle works 'cept her! (/symbol crash!)

Quote from: EmmaM on October 16, 2011, 02:56:07 PM
Why does a queen carry a scepter? Because everyone in the castle works 'cept her! (/symbol crash!)

Want cheese with that joke?

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 16, 2011, 03:21:51 PM
Want cheese with that joke?

There is no room for more cheese in that joke  :)

I apologize, I'm a bit of a rebel. Sometimes a handful. I know you have good intentions.

Quote from: EmmaM on October 16, 2011, 03:31:15 PM
There is no room for more cheese in that joke  :)

I apologize, I'm a bit of a rebel. Sometimes a handful. I know you have good intentions.

Oh yeah.

I'm such a rebel. I conform.

But all joking aside. I am the kind of person who was strange when I was a boy, now that I am a woman. I want to be part of the binary, I want to conform to societies standards. I want to be some consumerist housewife... I've essentially seen both sides.

Mommy - Provider - Slowly going crazy because of the little one...

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I wish I could...I can't do the consumer housewife thing, I have to provide in a monetary fashion, right now.

Quote from: Annah on October 16, 2011, 01:39:35 PM
That was kinda mean. Many leave not to join a "white glove society" but because they felt that they had learned what they needed to know.

some of them do, then there's the others who are just not on the same page. all i know is, i don't have any reason to leave.

Quote from: EmmaM on October 16, 2011, 05:22:13 PM
Mommy - Provider - Slowly going crazy because of the little one...

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I wish I could...I can't do the consumer housewife thing, I have to provide in a monetary fashion, right now.

Omigosh, you two are adorbs!

I can't do the housewife thing either.  I need to get out of the house, get into structure, and be productive.  I feel like I'm stagnating otherwise.  So, I'm a single mother working her ass off during the day and momming it up on week nights.  I get my weekends off from parenting, which is just fine by me. 8)

Oh, the topic is us winning.  Viva le revolution!  Buck the system!  Down with stuff and that other stuff that's been around awhile or something.  ::ADD kicks in:: Time to play more video games...

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Queen of the thread.

noooo, it's me!

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Quote from: Laura91 on October 16, 2011, 01:26:32 PM
Now I have a craving for pumpkin pie! :D

  Lol ikr! I'm sooo craving one of those pumpkin pie blizzards from DQ.    :D

Quote from: Forever21Chic on October 16, 2011, 07:37:04 PM

  Lol ikr! I'm sooo craving one of those pumpkin pie blizzards from DQ.    :D

I got a ticket for a free McFlurry

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JoeyD, didn't you hear? 30 is the new 20. :P

If only...

/32 on sunday

Yes. All your board are belong to us. Resistance is futile. Do not adjust your television set. We have taken control of the horizontal and the vertical.

Oh Sailor_Saturn,

Nice try ..... but here in the Land of Oz, we use the PAL TV system. That leaves us the brightness, contrast and chroma to play with. BUT most importantly  .......   the ON/OFF switch ... is on the remote (in my hand haha)

(Oh dear - I think it's one of those nights again. Must be getting close to Catherine's HRT meds)

Be safe, well and happy
Lotsa luv
Catherine

Do not attempt to escape your conquest with lies. Color television does not exist. You will be assimilated.