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Since I have joined some trans related places (more specifically, trans related chat rooms), I have noticed a type of Vernacular Trend that some trans people do in a chat room. It isn't as apparent in forums or blogs, but you can see it often in chat.

And that is the word "hon" by trans women and "bro" (or other spellings of it) by the trans men.

I don't think this is wrong by any means. It's just something I have noticed.

Of course, I understand that some cis females use "hon" and cis men use "bro" but its like I can almost pic out someone in a chat room if they are trans, CD, etc by the over using of those terms of endearments.

Just something I noticed is all :)

I don't think I've ever used either words seriously, though I do often call women "bro" and men "hon" just to mess with them. Calling a very burly macho guy "hon" never ceases to amuse me.

lol

I've yet to be in a chatroom for trans people and I've noticed this trend myself. Heck, I even almost did it myself until I was like, "Wait a second..."

To be honest though, I call everyone bro and, much more often, dude. You can be the prettiest most feminine girl in the world and I'll still call you dude :P.

I feel like I've noticed that too. I'm delighted to be called either one, though, and I don't currently personally use either one when talking to others. I think I tend to say "man" and "guys" whether I'm speaking to males or females.

I generally only use "hun" with someone I'm close to (in which case I say it a lot, as well as ma'am and a few other things) but it does slip out at random from time to time.

I use "guys" as a neutral word, even when referring to girls or mixed groups. The singular seems to me to be male exclusive but the plural doesn't have to be.

I don't think I've ever said dude, or man, or bro to someone.

I use 'bro', 'dude', and 'guys' indiscriminately, though I take care because some trans women have taken offense at my use of the terms, considering them to be erasing to trans people, though that's obviously not how they're meant, at all.

Quote from: Lily on October 22, 2011, 03:14:38 PM
I generally only use "hun" with someone I'm close to (in which case I say it a lot, as well as ma'am and a few other things) but it does slip out at random from time to time.

I use "guys" as a neutral word, even when referring to girls or mixed groups. The singular seems to me to be male exclusive but the plural doesn't have to be.

I don't think I've ever said dude, or man, or bro to someone.

yeah, i was saying transguys use the word Bro a lot. Transgirls, i noticed, uses the word hon when they talk to someone they are close to in chat...or to a friend.

i use "baby" with my BF

Regarding the ftm forums on this site, I really love the frequent use of "bro" and similar words. I like the casual reminders that we recognize and respect a person as they are.

I'm guilty! Great topic, though, hon! Hugs, Tracey

Quote from: Annah on October 22, 2011, 01:06:19 PM
Since I have joined some trans related places (more specifically, trans related chat rooms), I have noticed a type of Vernacular Trend that some trans people do in a chat room. It isn't as apparent in forums or blogs, but you can see it often in chat.

And that is the word "hon" by trans women and "bro" (or other spellings of it) by the trans men.

I don't think this is wrong by any means. It's just something I have noticed.

Of course, I understand that some cis females use "hon" and cis men use "bro" but its like I can almost pic out someone in a chat room if they are trans, CD, etc by the over using of those terms of endearments.

Just something I noticed is all :)

   Thanks hun!  ;D

Quote from: Felix on October 22, 2011, 04:33:53 PM
Regarding the ftm forums on this site, I really love the frequent use of "bro" and similar words. I like the casual reminders that we recognize and respect a person as they are.

I agree, i think its nice too!

Quote from: Fighter Sadie on October 22, 2011, 01:29:42 PM
I've yet to be in a chatroom for trans people and I've noticed this trend myself. Heck, I even almost did it myself until I was like, "Wait a second..."

To be honest though, I call everyone bro and, much more often, dude. You can be the prettiest most feminine girl in the world and I'll still call you dude :P.

I second that.

I think this is an interesting topic. I personally try not to call anyone "hon" or "sweetie" because I personally find it kind of patronizing. It's almost like you're talking to them as though they are a child when you call someone that. "Bro" is much more egalitarian, yet I would never call anyone it. Dude is a pretty good name though. For girls, too!

Oh, I do this sometimes, but usually only when I'm feeling girly.  I'll use "sweetie" "hon" "honey" and "honeybuns"

Sometimes I'll call the guys "bro"

Quote from: Annah on October 22, 2011, 01:06:19 PM
Since I have joined some trans related places (more specifically, trans related chat rooms), I have noticed a type of Vernacular Trend that some trans people do in a chat room. It isn't as apparent in forums or blogs, but you can see it often in chat.

And that is the word "hon" by trans women and "bro" (or other spellings of it) by the trans men.

I don't think this is wrong by any means. It's just something I have noticed.

Of course, I understand that some cis females use "hon" and cis men use "bro" but its like I can almost pic out someone in a chat room if they are trans, CD, etc by the over using of those terms of endearments.

Just something I noticed is all :)

Oh my goodness I have noticed the same thing. 
I wonder if we are somehow compensating for something?  But then again, I have to think that maybe we are all just enjoying our proper status as female and the terms of endearment are an expression of that joy?
I mean normally calling someone honey is a placating term.  Just a thought probably not valid.

hmm not entirely sure.

But whenever im in chat and if someone uses "hon" a lot it's more than likely a transgender oriented girl.

It all depends on the situation too. When I see "hon" just used towards a person in chat and its not an endearment its usually a transgender.

I wonder how much this is impacted by the kind of rooms you visit.  I only bring it up, as I've been spending more time in the irc.  I've seen/heard the terms used pretty commonly by (and I know this isn't exactly correct,) hyper-feminine types, both cis and trans, elsewhere fairly frequently.  Everywhere I go, really, though it was more common when I lived in Texas and Georgia.

Any term of endearment used to drive me nuts, but I think I was just bitter and mistrusting of the user's intentions.  Now, I don't mind them used positively, but it's just kind of silly when they're used in a catty manner.  I get embarrassed enough by the way my SO and I talk to our cat, without trying to pull off a "Honey, you did not just say that!?"   :D

I never liked either of these. I'm not a sweet yellow liquid, and that guy is not my brother. Maybe it's an English people's thing.

Anyway, maybe your impression is wrong, because I see loads of bro and hons on an online game I play, and I do not think it is related in any way to trans things.

There's a few chat places I go to. One is a United Church of Christ chat for laity and Pastors. Whenever I am in there discussing topics and such, I will usually encounter someone using "hon." For example, "well, Hon, in our church ......." And the use it every 3 lines lol.

Then I'll pm them and asks about things like "so what is your stance on LGBT issues in the church" and then they will ALWAYS say "well, I am for it because I attend so and so church because I am transgender."

Other places like IRC uses the word "hon" like its going out of style. While I do not normally PM then and asks "hey are you trans," the ones who say they are or the ones who have like "girlygurl-TV" are indicators they are. And these girls throw the word around a lot too.

For cis women, I hardly ever hear them say the word "hon" in chat for the exception of maybe women in their 50s. And they use it sparingly.

Again, this is just my observation. Not documented fact. Nor do I think it's wrong. Just something I have noticed.

Quote from: A on October 22, 2011, 11:29:45 PM
I never liked either of these. I'm not a sweet yellow liquid, and that guy is not my brother. Maybe it's an English people's thing.

Anyway, maybe your impression is wrong, because I see loads of bro and hons on an online game I play, and I do not think it is related in any way to trans things.

you know how many guys play female characters in online games? I am part of a Guild called Taint in World of Warcraft.....I am on ventrillo with them so I can hear them talk through their mics. Many of the female characters are men behind the keyboard. Not all. And yeah, they throw around the word "hun" or "hon" a lot too.

Also when I "raid" in the game you have to have vent open as it is easier to just say something versus typing it. I would say a good 70% of the female toons in my raiding groups are men too. Now, of course this isn't related to trans at all but I wonder if when they play a female character they use "hon" because it sounds feminine? Which, would relate to some transgenders using the word "hon" because it sounds feminine. Same when someone uses "tehee squeak giggle >=.=<" when they laugh ;)

I notice this used more by CD's or TG wanna  bes..Its nothing i really care about or would even discuss..It is imo really noner usually.

I use "babe" a lot. Sometimes I'll use "doll", and rarely I'll use "ma belle" if I'm feeling playful. :P The "honey" thing I'm a bit weird about; I don't particularly care for it myself, but if it has to be used then it must be "honey" or "hunni", no "hon" or "hun"! :icon_userfriendly:

Quote from: Annah on October 22, 2011, 01:06:19 PM
Since I have joined some trans related places (more specifically, trans related chat rooms), I have noticed a type of Vernacular Trend that some trans people do in a chat room. It isn't as apparent in forums or blogs, but you can see it often in chat.

And that is the word "hon" by trans women and "bro" (or other spellings of it) by the trans men.

I don't think this is wrong by any means. It's just something I have noticed.

Of course, I understand that some cis females use "hon" and cis men use "bro" but its like I can almost pic out someone in a chat room if they are trans, CD, etc by the over using of those terms of endearments.

Just something I noticed is all :)

I imagine there are more tells as a result of the environment that TG's must (perhaps fortunately?) endure...

I Use Hun on messengers but not in a chat room. I also use 'babes' too. Seems my dear friend Kaz was a bad influence on me because she uses that term a lot.

Quote from: Michelle Hayden on October 23, 2011, 01:04:02 AM
I notice this used more by CD's or TG wanna  bes..Its nothing i really care about or would even discuss..It is imo really noner usually.

I've never heard any transgendered person referred to as a "wanna be." Aren't you TG if you say you are?