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I'm going for a consult with Dr. Zukowski on Monday. :-D I'm excited because it's another step in the process and I feel stalled at the moment. But it will also mean having a number that may be disheartening. So, we'll see! I'll keep this updated as things go.

If you can go for it, then do it.

I wish I had that kind of money...

:D

zomg I'm soooo jealous.

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 17, 2011, 02:21:39 AM
If you can go for it, then do it.

I wish I had that kind of money...

Dr. Z's prices aren't that bad actually, i got a quote from him for about 25K (with BA) but i'm shopping around to see what prices the other US FFS surgeons give me.

How'd the consult go?

I didn't really want to reply further, but I think I ought to given the other topics being brought up in other threads.

Short version: The price was right ($25,000 for forehead, chin & jaw, lip lift, cheek fat injection(not implant), trach shave, rhinoplasty). But the surgeon wasn't. I didn't want the fat injection, lip lift, or trach shave so that would probably bring it down to about 21000-22000 in the end.

He bickered with me about several things I told him I didn't want until I gave in and let him keep going with the forceful upselling. He repeatedly stepped out to take calls or handle other business. (The one call I will excuse was from his daughter who was out of the country. I have traveled internationally, I know calls are a hassle.) The facilities I found troubling and lacking, the recovery area particularly so (It basically amounts to a bed against a wall in a back room). The photos of his work were pretty impressive, but the video testimonials left much to be desired, and I just felt I wouldn't get the quality I sought. He was fairly light on the details of what he would be doing; he focused a lot of attention on addressing concerns I didn't even have, as though he were talking not to me but to all of his past patients. The few questions I did have didn't get me anywhere and I was rarely allowed to finish a sentence.

Very, very negative experience overall.

That's to bad. But at least you have a number to go by for future prospects with other surgeons.

Quote from: LifeInNeon on January 14, 2012, 03:33:37 PM
The facilities I found troubling and lacking, the recovery area particularly so (It basically amounts to a bed against a wall in a back room).

The recovery area was very small, but given I wasn't sure who I was half the time it didn't really bother me.  I was glad it was in the corner like that because I kept dozing off and if Lisa had appeared behind me I'd have seriously freaked out. 

IF you are still interested he CAN operate in a hospital so that may not be as big a road block as it seems (it is more $ of course).

Quote from: LifeInNeon on January 14, 2012, 03:33:37 PM
The few questions I did have didn't get me anywhere and I was rarely allowed to finish a sentence.

Keep in mind I live in the south and most people around here don't get in a hurry and I also mean this in only the best way, but I suspect he really needs to take some ADHD meds at time.  Just like you, I did find that when I had a question I just had to wait until he wound down.  However I did get to ask everything I wanted each time I talked to him.  I also think that outside of the OR he is incapable of being still for more than a few moments.  Once good part about that was that it kept a smile on my face when he made his daily visit after surgery.

Overall now that my air flight swelling is back down, I am thrilled with his work.  But not everyone clicks with everyone else.  I feel that the comfort level with the surgeon is almost as important as the skill and equipment.  There are quite a few surgeons out there and like LivingInGrey said you now have a price to negotiate with. 

Sorry he blew you off.  Good luck finding the right surgeon to show the world the real you.

I also had a consult with Z a number of years ago. I didn't like his approach. In fact, he insulted a feature of my face by asking, "how could you have lived that long with ____?" Thanks a lot, dude!

BTW, if you haven't read it already, he was served with a medical malpractice suit involving the death of one of his "alleged" patients this past July. She died allegedly of respitory distress and brain damage from oxygen deprivation. Outside paramedics had to be called to his clinic to try and resuscitate this poor woman.

Glad I chose another doctor!

Quote from: juliekins on January 14, 2012, 11:01:08 PM
I also had a consult with Z a number of years ago. I didn't like his approach. In fact, he insulted a feature of my face by asking, "how could you have lived that long with ____?" Thanks a lot, dude!

BTW, if you haven't read it already, he was served with a medical malpractice suit involving the death of one of his "alleged" patients this past July. She died allegedly of respitory distress and brain damage from oxygen deprivation. Outside paramedics had to be called to his clinic to try and resuscitate this poor woman.

Glad I chose another doctor!

on his website it is clearly written that the clinic has 100% safety rate. Are you sure this has happened? I am totally happy with the work Dr Z did for me. I wanted a total change, I look totally different, and 100% feminine, even my close friends don't recognize me now. I kept my transition a secret and when I returned back from the USA I started a new life like a woman. Maybe he talks too much but that doesn't make him a bad doctor.

http://wilmette.suntimes.com/news/9967617-418/suit-woman-dies-after-multiple-plastic-surgeries-in-one-day.html (http://wilmette.suntimes.com/news/9967617-418/suit-woman-dies-after-multiple-plastic-surgeries-in-one-day.html)

Have no idea of the validity but this looks legit.

And I personally would NEVER go under general anesthesia outside of a hospital. It may be fairly safe now but it's not something to be casual about either.

My nose job price of $4800 included doing it in a hospital with their fees included. If something happened, I was already IN a hospital! Seems like the hospital + anesthesiologist was about $1800 of the price. I would never go under for hours in a clinic to save the $1000-$1500. Plus I would figure a hospital IS going to be a clean environment with less issues with infection. I have a high sensitivity to anti-biotics, they did my surgery using none and I had no issues. Most hospitals have special pricing for elective surgery and work you in during off hours. Please people lets be SAFE first and foremost!

Hi Stephe,

Sounds shocking. 1800 $ is for the anesthesia and for the day hospital. On top of it all add about 2000$ per day for the hospital. And a nose job takes about 1- 1.5 hours. For 8 hours of anesthesia and the operating room the price is much higher. So of course you pay less if you have the surgery at his center. Anesthesia usually has no complications. Those situations happen to people who have preexisting conditions. In my opinion that is the anesthesiologist mistake for overlooking the patient general health. Genaral anesthesia is 100% safe for people who are healthy. From what I understood the patient didn't suffer any complications from the surgery but from the anesthetic.

Quote from: swan on January 20, 2012, 05:38:28 PM
Hi Stephe,

Sounds shocking. 1800 $ is for the anesthesia and for the day hospital. On top of it all add about 2000$ per day for the hospital. And a nose job takes about 1- 1.5 hours. For 8 hours of anesthesia and the operating room the price is much higher. So of course you pay less if you have the surgery at his center. Anesthesia usually has no complications. Those situations happen to people who have preexisting conditions. In my opinion that is the anesthesiologist mistake for overlooking the patient general health. Genaral anesthesia is 100% safe for people who are healthy. From what I understood the patient didn't suffer any complications from the surgery but from the anesthetic.

Mine was a 3 hour surgery for that price and no, it's not 100% safe. A quick online search will show a LOT of people that have had complications and after effects. I felt bad for a month after mine from it and am perfectly healthy.

If this had been done in a hospital, they likely wouldn't have died. Another question is it really a good idea to have 8 hours of work done all at once? The longer you are under the more likely to have problems and the longer it takes to recover from it. Most of these procedures are not overlapping. I don't think anyone is saying the surgeon himself cause the death, it's that the surgery was done outside of a hospital that caused it.

I guess the point I was stressing is, I would NEVER go under general anesthesia outside of a hospital. YMMV

I can see your point. It is always better to be safe. Of course the hospitals are much better equipped. I didn't mind having a 14 hours surgery at DR Z center. And I didn't have any complications from the surgery or from the anesthesia.
When I had my BA in Paris I couldn't start breathing after the GA and I had a panic attack when I started breathing. I totally freaked out. And it was less then 2 hours surgery carried in one of the best french hospitals. They kept me in the IC unit for hours after the surgery. In my case inability to move and to breath after the extubation was caused by overdose (the anesthesiologist was one of the best in Paris) and the panic attack was psychologically caused due to fear.

Listen people. Choose who you feel most comfortable with, period. There are many surgeons out there that specialize in FFS. And remember, no surgeon is perfect or a miracle worker. Going in you should know all the risks involved and one of them is death, unfortunately. I went with Dr. Z and I couldn't be happier. The important thing is that we are happy with our own chosen surgeon and results. Good luck to all.

I had full FFS with Dr Z in 2010   Couldn't be happier  He didn't over promise or hard sell   He was attentive and his availability pre op and support post op were fantastic   He is pragmatic  and will call it as it is so may not be every body's 'cup of tea" but he certainly worked for me

Helen

Quote from: Stephe on January 20, 2012, 05:15:40 PMPlus I would figure a hospital IS going to be a clean environment with less issues with infection.

Exactly the opposite is true! There are lots of sick people in hospitals, i.e., a lot more germs to catch. Hospital infections account for an estimated 100,000 deaths every year.

I know this is an old thread, but I wanted to point that out.

Quote from: RavenMoon on October 09, 2013, 12:42:24 AM
Exactly the opposite is true! There are lots of sick people in hospitals, i.e., a lot more germs to catch. Hospital infections account for an estimated 100,000 deaths every year.

I know this is an old thread, but I wanted to point that out.

This is a good point you raised. Plus, I notice a lot of people die in hospitals, so I try to avoid them at all costs...  :D

I'm leaning toward Dr. Z for my ffs. I haven't had a consult with him yet, so I appreciate the heads up LifeInNeon regarding his tendency to be somewhat dismissive (it's an old thread, hope you're still here?). His results are impressive and I like his endoscopic approach. Regarding his tendency to 'upsell', I think it's a good idea to get several opinions from ffs surgeons. We may only want this or that procedure, but affecting one part of the face affects other parts of the face. We should want their thoughts on what they believe are desired procedures. His results are very impressive, I'd like to see the before and after pics of more clients, I'm curious how typical the one's he post are. I'd be happy with half the result of what he shows. He seems to do really good chin work as well as good forehead work.

I had an ffs consult with a surgeon down the road where I live, his demeanor was similar, I think it comes with the territory.  ;)

LifeInNeon hasn't been active here since early 2012, but she does have an active tumblr blog.

http://life-in-neon.tumblr.com/

I had a phone consultation with dr Z since im an international patient. He did not oversell, however he kept telling me that i would look better if he did this or did that which is kind of like sweet talking you into procedures you didnt want. Whenever i would say " but i think so n so is ok on my face" he would respond back like " yes i know, but it would be better if...." anyway i gave up and let him do all the talking and two days later he sent me a reasonable quote for forehead contouring with brow ridge shaving, forehead lift, nose, chin implant and lower jaw tapering.

I told him i will think about it and respond later, then he said that the prices are not guaranteed i need to decide no later than 10 days. after 10 days i respond back that i will only want to go for the brow lift and lower jaw tapering because i dont feel like i need all the other procedures.

this was 6 months ago, till this day i contacted the office maybe 5 times but no one responds to me at all. So i guess if you decline a big part of the package he's not interested in you anymore? i dunno but that was my experience.

Wow that's really disheartening to hear.

Wow, my consultation is this coming Wednesday. I don't think I need to worry about an oversell because it all needs to be done.  I will do it in a hospital.  I have had 11 surgeries in the past for broken bones and such and went under 8 of those times.  He will use the rather detailed instructions he will get from an anesthesiologist I have worked with here at home.  However, he seems to be very good at doing a lot of individual parts and making them look good together and that is what I need.  I'll post Wednesday afternoon.....

Jen

Quote from: JLT1 on November 15, 2013, 12:35:36 PM
Wow, my consultation is this coming Wednesday. I don't think I need to worry about an oversell because it all needs to be done.  I will do it in a hospital.  I have had 11 surgeries in the past for broken bones and such and went under 8 of those times.  He will use the rather detailed instructions he will get from an anesthesiologist I have worked with here at home.  However, he seems to be very good at doing a lot of individual parts and making them look good together and that is what I need.  I'll post Wednesday afternoon.....

Jen

Best of luck to you!

Well, I've seen doctor Z many times since last year, carefully preparing for any potential surgery, and it has gotten to the point where he's forcing me to do either several things at once, or nothing at all.  What he wants me to do is my brow bone and my nose, and I willfully want them done, too, but not simultaneously.

Quote from: JLT1 on November 15, 2013, 12:35:36 PM
Wow, my consultation is this coming Wednesday. I don't think I need to worry about an oversell because it all needs to be done.  I will do it in a hospital.  I have had 11 surgeries in the past for broken bones and such and went under 8 of those times.  He will use the rather detailed instructions he will get from an anesthesiologist I have worked with here at home.  However, he seems to be very good at doing a lot of individual parts and making them look good together and that is what I need.  I'll post Wednesday afternoon.....

Jen

I know that, depending on your nose bridge and brow, some FFS surgeons will not do just one because the other needs to be done in order for the two to connect. I dunno tho.

Yeah, it makes more sense for the doctor to do them at the same time, because he has to change the angle of your nose to your brow. Plus do you want the skin on your face pealed down twice? Let him do them at the same time and get it over with. I realize it's more expense, but it makes more sense than going through that twice. Less chance of scaring, I would think.

Yeah, that's true.  I'm planning on going within the next few months, but although I'm obviously really excited, I'm also scared and anxious.  Any tips for overcoming stuff like that?  I've never been under before.

Surgery is easy u go to sleep and then you wake up. Recovery is challenging but the whole thing is worth it if this is what you believe you need.

Quote from: likealolita on November 18, 2013, 04:36:45 PM
Yeah, that's true.  I'm planning on going within the next few months, but although I'm obviously really excited, I'm also scared and anxious.  Any tips for overcoming stuff like that?  I've never been under before.

I was anxious my first time going under as well.  Now, if you need, they can give you something to help relax.  PrincessDi is exactly right: you just fall asleep.  When it's over, you wake up.  I always wake up a little disconnected from everything but I reconnect.  Most people just wake up a little groggy.  There is no reason to be worried about the going under part.  I've been under eight times for things other than FFS.  It's the recovery that is messy as it's totally boring and can be painful.  Dr Z's website has a good check list of stuff.  Just have something to do.

It's EXCTING!  Think about the results!!!!

Hugs,

Jen

Thanks for the reassuring words.  This is definitely something I need as facially, I'm not quite there yet and both the forehead and nose should be enough as the rest of my face is apparently quite feminine according to the many doctors I've talked with.

I just have some anxiety because I had a trachea shave with Dr. Toby Mayer of Beverly Hills, CA last September and it's still hurting a bit on the inside occasionally, where the breathing tube will be going, but both Dr. Mayer and Dr. Zukowski said it shouldn't be a problem.

I've never been a patient in a hospital (knock on wood), nor have I had surgery except for a vasectomy. That was about 6 years ago, and sometimes it's still sore. Guess I won't have to worry about that too much longer. Lol

I think it's ironic that my first real surgeries will be part of my transition. It is a little scary, but also exciting. I'd do it tomorrow if I could. :)

Quote from: RavenMoon on November 19, 2013, 09:20:10 AMI think it's ironic that my first real surgeries will be part of my transition

You are not alone. If it weren't for transition, many of us wouldn't ever undergo big surgery or get to know some interesting countries like Thailand, Belgium, Argentina or Peru :)

Quote from: Celia0428 on November 19, 2013, 01:13:02 PM
You are not alone. If it weren't for transition, many of us wouldn't ever undergo big surgery or get to know some interesting countries like Thailand, Belgium, Argentina or Peru :)

Yes and that too! Right now I'm considering Dr. Lazaro Cardenas in Mexico. I've never been to Mexico...but my ex has a multiple times. I told her she could come with me if she wants.  lol

Quote from: JLT1 on November 15, 2013, 12:35:36 PM
Wow, my consultation is this coming Wednesday. I don't think I need to worry about an oversell because it all needs to be done.  I will do it in a hospital.  I have had 11 surgeries in the past for broken bones and such and went under 8 of those times.  He will use the rather detailed instructions he will get from an anesthesiologist I have worked with here at home.  However, he seems to be very good at doing a lot of individual parts and making them look good together and that is what I need.  I'll post Wednesday afternoon.....

Jen

Well, the consultation was this morning.  I want to that everyone here for helping me prepare, especially JennyGirl.  That was a good thing.  Dr Z talks with a person, goes through a spiel about what he thinks needs to be done and then, opens it up for discussion.  I was ready and took notes.  He agreed to work with me on anesthesia and pain medications. In the end, we agreed on the following:
   
Brow Lift, Orbital Rim Bossing, Blepharoplasty, Rhinoplasty, Septoplasty, Cheek Implant, Upper lip lift, jaw angle, chin reduction, multi-plane face lift, neck lift, trachea shave.

Essentially, the entire list of what he offers.  We will talk more about the jaw in a personal visit. It's 10 days before I can even leave the Chicago metro. I'll take some extra time off work so I'll be out six weeks. He really wasn't ready for the loose skin part due to my recent weight loss.  It's $40,000. We are working on scheduling in March of 2014.

I'm excited and afraid.  But mostly excited. My wife said I would be an ugly woman when I first came out to her.  I don't think so. 

Hugs,

Jen

Jen, I'm so happy for you! It's great that you are able to take 6 weeks off from work to recover. And March is right around the corner. :)

I think you will be very pleased with your results. I am sorry to hear about what your wife said - but I whole-heartedly disagree with her and think you are going to be stunning when all is said and done.

Good luck with everything and keep us updated!

Quote from: JLT1 on November 20, 2013, 11:21:52 AM
   
Brow Lift, Orbital Rim Bossing, Blepharoplasty, Rhinoplasty, Septoplasty, Cheek Implant, Upper lip lift, jaw angle, chin reduction, multi-plane face lift, neck lift, trachea shave.

Wow, getting everything done.  You are going to look fantastic when you get through this.  I am so excited to see the results, and I am so happy for you.

J.

Quote from: abbyt89 on November 20, 2013, 12:55:10 PM
Jen, I'm so happy for you! It's great that you are able to take 6 weeks off from work to recover. And March is right around the corner. :)

I think you will be very pleased with your results. I am sorry to hear about what your wife said - but I whole-heartedly disagree with her and think you are going to be stunning when all is said and done.

Good luck with everything and keep us updated!

Abby: Thank you.  I really need the work and Dr Z was actually fun to talk to once he got through his sales pitch.  Lots of good questions for me and good answers. It was good.

Quote from: SciNerdGirl on November 21, 2013, 09:32:00 PM
Wow, getting everything done.  You are going to look fantastic when you get through this.  I am so excited to see the results, and I am so happy for you.

J.

Sci:  I will post the results once I actually get it done.  It's quite literally everything.  I don't know that he does any specific procedure better than anyone else or even quite as good as them.  But he ties everything togather really well.  I'm excited.  Thank you.

I hope that it is a dream come true. 

Hugs to you both!

Jen

I wish Dr. Z had better before and after photos on his website. I think most of the ones he has up are pretty bad. But then I've seen examples of his work that are really good.

I guess people don't want their photos made public.

I have a friend of mine who is one of the before and after pictures that are on his web site.  We are having dinner together Monday and I want to talk with her about Dr Z (something I never did before).  We'll see.  Her surgery was four years ago.  She looks great.

Hugs,

Jen

As an old patient of Dr Z (from 3 years ago) I can say from personal experience that his work is superb. Whilst I was passing OK before FFS, he's made me look fantastic and 15 years younger. I had most stuff done except for eye work as he said my eyes were already feminine. I had the op around 6:30am and woke up about 9pm when Lisa took me to the hotel to look after me for the next 3 days.
I knew it was going to be tough afterwards and I looked like I'd been hit by a truck, but slowly the beautiful butterfly emerged.
It's important to follow his advise to the letter about face massaging. If you do what he says you'll get a really good result.

He did try to sell me other procedures, but I wasn't interested and told him so. On the whole my experience at his office was good and I got what I wanted and paid for.

Sorry I can't share any before and after photos. Don't want anyone to come across pictures of me linked to this site.

Jen - I hope this puts your mind at rest. - good luck and best wishes

I went to Dr. Z. I did not pick him because of his personality. Personally I think he is like a care salesman.

In any case one of the reasons I choose him was he was willing negotiate with me. In 09 when I got the surgery the economy was not that great so he quoted me a price of 25,000. I counteroffered for 15,000. We settled on 17,500. That was a lot of facial surgery and lipo around my waist.

Oh and I should point out the recovery from FFS was dam miserable. Not painful just miserable. It made recovery from SRS, BA, and first round of LIPO (all done at the same time) seem like nothing.

Katie

Quote from: JLT1 on December 07, 2013, 12:00:47 AM
I have a friend of mine who is one of the before and after pictures that are on his web site.  We are having dinner together Monday and I want to talk with her about Dr Z (something I never did before).  We'll see.  Her surgery was four years ago.  She looks great.

Hugs,

Jen

Wow Jen, is that a virtual FFS result in your avatar pic?  If so you look fantastic!  At first I was thinking, "wow, hormones are working like magic for her", then I read the comment under the picture and realized it must be a manipulated photo.  I cannot wait to see your final result, you are going to be beautiful!

Janet.

Quote from: SciNerdGirl on December 18, 2013, 10:15:46 PM
Wow Jen, is that a virtual FFS result in your avatar pic?  If so you look fantastic!  At first I was thinking, "wow, hormones are working like magic for her", then I read the comment under the picture and realized it must be a manipulated photo.  I cannot wait to see your final result, you are going to be beautiful!

Janet.

Janet,

It's a more or less virtual FFS.  Jennygirl did it for me.  She is very good and the profile avatar she did is close.  FFS is tentatively set for March 8 as I am still working through everything: my life got messy the past few weeks.  Things got really weird at work, I got my letter for SRS and my employer is changing insurance companies.  Money and time off became an issue until I could get everything set.  I'll post some more details about all that on another thread. 

On the other hand, I got taken off HRT for nine weeks due to medical stuff and just got restarted.  However, HRT is really working well, almost scary well.  Bone structure in the face is the only issue.  Like, the ONLY issue: breast size, fat redistribution, all that worked fantastic.  It's very difficult to hide right now.....  Only 76 days left and I'm full time with a new name, a new position at work and the right gender.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!!

Hugs!

Jen

After virtual FFS'ing some of my own photos, I realized how fun it is and offered to do it for other Susan's members.

I'd be happy to do it for others here again, the only cost being that you ask nicely :D

I have almost a decade of professional experience with photoshop. A little liquify and clone stamping is all it takes. Fun stuff, really :)

Quote from: Jennygirl on December 23, 2013, 12:46:08 AMAfter virtual FFS'ing some of my own photos, I realized how fun it is and offered to do it for other Susan's members.

I'd be happy to do it for others here again, the only cost being that you ask nicely :D

I have almost a decade of professional experience with photoshop. A little liquify and clone stamping is all it takes. Fun stuff, really :)

Oooh, me first!
I can't do anything with photoshop, and I don't have it for myself to practise on.
Mind if I PM you some pictures for you to try out?

Quote from: Willow on December 23, 2013, 12:51:30 AM
Oooh, me first!
I can't do anything with photoshop, and I don't have it for myself to practise on.
Mind if I PM you some pictures for you to try out?

Willow, I'm PM'ing you with deets :)

Hi, Jenny, could you please do one for me, too?  I'm also PMing you.

Yeah I've started doing a few VFFS things too, though the noses often turn out a little bit too Michael Jackson for my liking. Plus I'm still not great with forehead stuff or lip lifts. It has shown me the extent to which my nose masculinises my face though, which really helps to know.

Quote from: Michaela J. on December 23, 2013, 12:26:16 PM
Yeah I've started doing a few VFFS things too, though the noses often turn out a little bit too Michael Jackson for my liking. Plus I'm still not great with forehead stuff or lip lifts. It has shown me the extent to which my nose masculinises my face though, which really helps to know.

Doing a virtual lip lift is really hard! I've been using Photoshop professionally since he mid 90s, and whenever I try and do my own VFFS I lose patience!  lol  But yet I've spent hours retouching photos at various jobs... go figure!

Since making my decision to transition, and realizing I need some FFS, I spend a lot of time looking at women's faces; in public, in photos, etc. I've downloaded photos of women's faces with a similar shape as mine, etc. So I have come to the conclusion that one of the most masculinizing features on a person's face is the nose and the brow. And all too often, the photos I see of FFS after examples haven't had enough done to the nose. Sometimes nothing at all. And to me, they often don't look like women at all.

I wonder if they either thought they looked good, or they didn't want to look like a different person. But you really can't properly feminize your face and look the same, or you will look like a guy with slightly feminine features, or a manly woman. There's just too much of the face being changed. I have no problem with people not recognizing me afterwards, and I hope that is the case. If I look like the sister I never had, that's fine, but no one confuses a sister and her brother as the same person.

I wouldn't worry about looking like Michael Jackson. No one is going to make your nose that skinny. No doctor would do that, except in his case he was rich and that's what he wanted. His first nose job wasn't so bad. Neither was Janet's. But you should try and have the size of the nose made smaller. It doesn't have to be skinny, but it should not protrude as far off your face, and the angle to the brow has to be changed to that of what's on female's faces.

What I have been doing is finding photos of noses I like that would fit the shape of my face. There is a limit to what can be done, because the existing skin has to drape over the framework. They do cut under the tip/nostrils, and can tighten it up a bit there, but it depends a lot on the thickness of the skin, etc. So the thing is to be very clear with your doctor about what you want, and I wouldn't be too shy about having them do what's needed to make you look like a female, and not just feminizing your features a little bit. Who wants to end up being a manly looking woman? Not me. It's bad enough that we do not have women's bodies.

Quote from: Jennygirl on December 23, 2013, 12:46:08 AM
After virtual FFS'ing some of my own photos, I realized how fun it is and offered to do it for other Susan's members.

I'd be happy to do it for others here again, the only cost being that you ask nicely :D

I have almost a decade of professional experience with photoshop. A little liquify and clone stamping is all it takes. Fun stuff, really :)

ok im new here and just saw this, if your still doing this for people i would appreciate tremendously. ive been on E since july and the effects are starting to show (not nearly as much as i would like, but at least its something) this could possibly get me out of this bad place i got into over the last week.... had the talk with my mom.... now my entire family has decided that i am evil and will have nothing to do with me.
     so if you happen to see this please get back to me one way or the other, thnx

I went and had my FFS with Dr. Z last Thursday, it's all video documented for you gals.
If you have any questions please PM me, I am here for you all.

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,159193.msg1355181.html#msg1355181 (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,159193.msg1355181.html#msg1355181)

Quote from: julietimebigtime on February 10, 2014, 01:31:17 AM
     ok im new here and just saw this, if your still doing this for people i would appreciate tremendously. ive been on E since july and the effects are starting to show (not nearly as much as i would like, but at least its something) this could possibly get me out of this bad place i got into over the last week.... had the talk with my mom.... now my entire family has decided that i am evil and will have nothing to do with me.
     so if you happen to see this please get back to me one way or the other, thnx

Hi!!!!

Welcome to Susan's.  You have just found a new family. Someone is always here.

I'll get a message off to Jennygirl to see if she can help.  She's awfully busy right now trying to get money saved up for SRS. Give her some time.

You have to have 15 posts before you can send a "PM" or personal message.  I'm going to send you one to see if you can get them.  If you get it, post here again and tell me.  That will let you and Jennygirl communicate personal stuff like an email address so you can send her your picture and so that she can send you her take on your look after FFS.

Congrads on starting HRT.  Some people are fast, some are slow but all have times when they develop more than others so hang in there.

Families can be a real headache.  Being transgender is not wrong.  Being transgender and not dealing with it, however that happens to work, is wrong.  Hang in there.

Get your post in the intro section.  Start posting around so that you can hit that 15 number.  Ask questions, share burdens (you have one there to discuss). 

Hugs,

Jen

Quote from: JLT1 on February 10, 2014, 10:54:14 PM
Hi!!!!

Welcome to Susan's.  You have just found a new family. Someone is always here.

I'll get a message off to Jennygirl to see if she can help.  She's awfully busy right now trying to get money saved up for SRS. Give her some time.

You have to have 15 posts before you can send a "PM" or personal message.  I'm going to send you one to see if you can get them.  If you get it, post here again and tell me.  That will let you and Jennygirl communicate personal stuff like an email address so you can send her your picture and so that she can send you her take on your look after FFS.

Congrads on starting HRT.  Some people are fast, some are slow but all have times when they develop more than others so hang in there.

Families can be a real headache.  Being transgender is not wrong.  Being transgender and not dealing with it, however that happens to work, is wrong.  Hang in there.

Get your post in the intro section.  Start posting around so that you can hit that 15 number.  Ask questions, share burdens (you have one there to discuss). 

Hugs,

Jen

hey jen i got the message u sent me. and just a quick question in regards to Dr. Z,ive tried to get in touch with his office to see about getting a consult but havent had anyone get back to me with the e-mail (its been about 4 months since i tried) is there a best way to get ahold of them? i live in AZ so i cant exactly just stroll on in and see him.

Quote from: julietimebigtime on February 11, 2014, 01:53:09 AM
hey jen i got the message u sent me. and just a quick question in regards to Dr. Z,ive tried to get in touch with his office to see about getting a consult but havent had anyone get back to me with the e-mail (its been about 4 months since i tried) is there a best way to get ahold of them? i live in AZ so i cant exactly just stroll on in and see him.

Check your spam folder. Sometimes Cole's email get sent there by accident. You should receive an email from either Cole or Chris and then a phone from Cole to set up the consultation. I got lucky and had a phone consult early because someone cancelled. I had a similar experience to the girls regarding his conversation skills. Pretty much I got to speak the equivalent of a paragraph and we were on the phone for 20-something minutes. He's a nice guy though and I liked the fact he did a stint in the Navy. I'm more likely than not going to go with him. I love that he uses endoscopic techniques which means less scarring since I have horrible scarring tendencies. Another poster stated Dr. Z gave her 10 days to decide which is odd because the quote he gave me is good until May 2015. I do feel like if you're under the age of 35 then he gives everyone the same list of procedures to feminize their face. Luckily everything he mentioned I was already thinking. The only thing I don't agree with are the fat injections to my lips and the mini face lift. I'm young, my skin will bounce back. And I already have full lips.